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007 07-21-2013 06:44 PM

Finally upgraded to a new gas grill
 
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/gas-...met-t-22d.html


The steaks came out great for a change.:thumb:

Nice to have a grill that makes me feel like I can cook again.

In58men 07-21-2013 06:52 PM

Enjoy your flare ups.

Ceej 07-21-2013 06:53 PM

When are you cooking me dinner?

Bugeater 07-21-2013 06:58 PM

I think it's been a year since I last used my gas grill. I'm not even sure if it still works.

Predarat 07-21-2013 07:01 PM

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/ima...y-the-show.jpg

007 07-21-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826010)
Enjoy your flare ups.

Not on this puppy.

DeezNutz 07-21-2013 07:10 PM

Enjoy, dude.

Any grill can have flame ups, so don't let that bother you. I prefer gas to charcoal because of immediacy of heat and convenience, and I don't think you sacrifice shit in terms of flavor.

When it comes to grilling a high-quality steak, temp. is the single most important factor. If you cannot seal in the juices, your steak sucks ****ing shit. Period.

007 07-21-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9826040)
Enjoy, dude.

Any grill can have flame ups, so don't let that bother you. I prefer gas to charcoal because of immediacy of heat and convenience, and I don't think you sacrifice shit in terms of flavor.

When it comes to grilling a high-quality steak, temp. is the single most important factor. If you cannot seal in the juices, your steak sucks ****ing shit. Period.

Yep, I made steaks the first thing I grilled on this and they came out perfect. Just the right amount of pink. I could never accomplish that with charcoal because it would take so long to do anything on charcoal.

Consistent1 07-21-2013 07:22 PM

Gas grills suck. Sorry for the opinion. The fun of grilling and smoking stuff is that it takes some effort to do it. I can make a mean steak on a Foreman grill in reality.

DeezNutz 07-21-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826052)
Gas grills suck. Sorry for the opinion. The fun of grilling and smoking stuff is that it takes some effort to do it. I can make a mean steak on a Foreman grill in reality.

Yeah, no you can't because it can't get hot enough. The fun of grilling is that it produces good food.

Grilling and smoking are two totally different things. You want to grill? Get a high-quality gas grill. You want to smoke, get a high-quality smoker.

In58men 07-21-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9826058)
Yeah, no you can't because it can't get hot enough. The fun of grilling is that it produces good food.

Grilling and smoking are two totally different things. You want to grill? Get a high-quality gas grill. You want to smoke, get a high-quality smoker.


You can actually throw wood logs into a weber grill and use it as a smoker. If you have a gas grill you have to some bullshit pan with "wood chips". That's not smoking IMO. I'm a charcoal man for life.

DeezNutz 07-21-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826072)
You can actually throw wood logs into a weber grill and use it as a smoker. If you have a gas grill you have to some bullshit pan with "wood chips". That's not smoking IMO. I'm a charcoal man for life.

There's truth about conversion to a certain extent, but I'd prefer to purchase a Weber Smokey Mountain and keep my Spirit.

007 07-21-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826052)
Gas grills suck. Sorry for the opinion. The fun of grilling and smoking stuff is that it takes some effort to do it. I can make a mean steak on a Foreman grill in reality.

No, the fun of grilling is making good food. Doesn't matter how you get there as long as it tastes good and my gas grilling is tons better than my charcoal grilling.

I'm curious at your statement though. You talk about putting effort into your cooking then you mention the Foreman grill? Seriously?:doh!:

Great Expectations 07-21-2013 08:31 PM

Why not just get a big green egg?

It gets much hotter than the gas grill in the op in just a few minutes and smokes better than the Weber bullet.

You also don't ever have to replace it

007 07-21-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9826138)
Why not just get a big green egg?

It gets much hotter than the gas grill in the op in just a few minutes and smokes better than the Weber bullet.

You also don't ever have to replace it

I bought a Weber because "you can't do it wrong on a Weber" yet I still did. No, I'm done with charcoal.

TribalElder 07-21-2013 08:45 PM

I have the side grates to hold the charcoal to each side and smoke in the middle. Love my webber.

If the gas grill fits your need then you win. Enjoy your new grill!

In58men 07-21-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9826138)
Why not just get a big green egg?

It gets much hotter than the gas grill in the op in just a few minutes and smokes better than the Weber bullet.

You also don't ever have to replace it

That thing is over priced and overrated.

In58men 07-21-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9826153)
I bought a Weber because "you can't do it wrong on a Weber" yet I still did. No, I'm done with charcoal.

What was your problem with charcoal?

007 07-21-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9826162)
I have the side grates to hold the charcoal to each side and smoke in the middle. Love my webber.

If the gas grill fits your need then you win. Enjoy your new grill!

Damn straight!!! I will!!!!! :thumb:

007 07-21-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826165)
What was your problem with charcoal?

I already have a couple threads out there about this that I am sure you participated in so I am not going to rehash my problems with charcoal in this thread.

something I need not worry about anymore. ;)

Consistent1 07-21-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826165)
What was your problem with charcoal?

Impatience usually does it. Get up early, start the fire up and go mow the yard or something.

In58men 07-21-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826176)
Impatience usually does it. Get up early, start the fire up and go mow the yard or something.

I have a weber chimney starter and it literally takes only 8-10 minutes to get the coals red. I don't see how anyone could have problems with charcoal.

TimBone 07-21-2013 09:05 PM

Point being, grill with what you prefer to grill with. Some folks like Charcoal. Some folks like gas. Glad you found what makes you happy, Guru.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFly (Post 9826191)
Point being, grill with what you prefer to grill with. Some folks like Charcoal. Some folks like gas. Glad you found what makes you happy, Guru.

Hootie mult.


Mods check IP

Great Expectations 07-21-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826163)
That thing is over priced and overrated.

You've obviously never used one.

007 07-21-2013 09:17 PM

$700 for a charcoal cooker shaped like an egg? No ****ing way would I pay that.

007 07-21-2013 09:18 PM

For the record, I am holding on to my Weber for running out of gas issues and when I am cooking for more than just my family.

tooge 07-21-2013 09:18 PM

If you are good cook, and know the characteristics of the cut of meat you are using, you can turn out incredible food on either a gas or charcoal grill. Anyone that says otherwise simply doesn't know how to cook on one or the other properly.

FTR, I have both. I prefer my gas grill on weeknights after work, but enjoy cooking on the weber kettle as well. I also have a WSM, and use it to smoke all the time. Smoked trout today. Having said that, a weber kettle is a very capable smoker if you know how to use it.

You can also smoke on a gas grill. Simply place wood chips in foil, poke done holes in it, and throw it over the burner.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9826206)
$700 for a charcoal cooker shaped like an egg? No ****ing way would I pay that.


My thoughts exactly. My WRM only costs $100 at Walmart. I'm not gonna attempt to spend an extra $600-$700 on that shit.

Cannibal 07-21-2013 09:22 PM

Charcoal all the way.

Great Expectations 07-21-2013 09:23 PM

Most gas grills don't get hot enough for exceptionally well grilled steaks/burgers.

Ming the Merciless 07-21-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826010)
Enjoy your flare ups.

you got herpes bruh?

Saul Good 07-21-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9826040)
Enjoy, dude.

Any grill can have flame ups, so don't let that bother you. I prefer gas to charcoal because of immediacy of heat and convenience, and I don't think you sacrifice shit in terms of flavor.

When it comes to grilling a high-quality steak, temp. is the single most important factor. If you cannot seal in the juices, your steak sucks ****ing shit. Period.

That's why steaks should be baked on a cast iron skillet.

Great Expectations 07-21-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9826223)
Lump Charcoal all the way.

Fyp

kcxiv 07-21-2013 09:25 PM

I don't care taste difference is minimal to me. If its a good cooked steak I'll tear it up

Cannibal 07-21-2013 09:26 PM

Char-Griller makes a knockoff kamado. But it's not ceramic, it's insulated steel. It's about half the price.

Saul Good 07-21-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9826225)
Most gas grills don't get hot enough for exceptionally well grilled steaks/burgers.

Burgers? Propane gets plenty hot.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9826229)
That's why steaks should be baked on a cast iron skillet.

Ban

tooge 07-21-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9826225)
Most gas grills don't get hot enough for exceptionally well grilled steaks/burgers.

The cut of meat, and how you treat it before during, and after grilling are much more important than the mythical "sear to hold in juices".

In58men 07-21-2013 09:29 PM

I wonder how many charcoal vs gas thread there actually are here lol.

Cannibal 07-21-2013 09:29 PM

http://www.bbqsaucereviews.com/wp-co...2/04/Akorn.jpg

tooge 07-21-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9826229)
That's why steaks should be baked on a cast iron skillet.

Yep. A good cast iron skillet steak will rival a good grilled steak. If you don't agree, you simply don't know how to make it well

LoneWolf 07-21-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9826223)
Charcoal all the way.

My opinion too, but I understand those that like the convenience of a gas grill.

Personally, I use a different grill depending on my mood. In a hurry, I use my Weber spirit gas grill. Have extra time and want a little better flavor, I use my Weber kettle. Spending all day drinking beer and smoking meat, I use my Yoder Smoker.

Enjoy your new grill, Guru.

Cannibal 07-21-2013 09:34 PM

I could see searing a filet on high heat and then baking it the rest of the way due to the thickness of the cut, but I don't see the need to do that with a rib eye.

Saul Good 07-21-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9826258)
Yep. A good cast iron skillet steak will rival a good grilled steak. If you don't agree, you simply don't know how to make it well

A properly baked steak blows away a grilled steak.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9826264)
Have extra time and want a little better flavor, I use my Weber kettle.



I got destroyed for saying gas tastes different to me. You better be careful.

LoneWolf 07-21-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9826271)
A properly baked steak blows away a grilled steak.

Opinions vary.

GloryDayz 07-21-2013 09:35 PM

Enjoy... There's a whole world of grilling out there, and it's awesome!

Cannibal 07-21-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9826264)
My opinion too, but I understand those that like the convenience of a gas grill.

Personally, I use a different grill depending on my mood. In a hurry, I use my Weber spirit gas grill. Have extra time and want a little better flavor, I use my Weber kettle. Spending all day drinking beer and smoking meat, I use my Yoder Smoker.

Enjoy your new grill, Guru.

Yeah, if people like gas go for it. I think the food tastes superior over coal though. Personal preference.

BWillie 07-21-2013 09:37 PM

I hate charcoal grills unless im eating a hot dog. It makes the taste of the meat grimey and its steaks never taste as good. On top of all that, they are a pain in the ass.

LoneWolf 07-21-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826273)
I got destroyed for saying gas tastes different to me. You better be careful.

I use lump charcoal, and personally I can tell the difference in flavor. I'm not a charcoal snob, but I do have a preference when I have the time.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9826284)
I use lump charcoal, and personally I can tell the difference in flavor. I'm not a charcoal snob, but I do have a preference when I have the time.

Same here.


Agreed

Saul Good 07-21-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9826275)
Opinions vary.

Even using a cast iron skillet on a grill is better. The sear makes the steak.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9826289)
Even using a cast iron skillet on a grill is better. The sear makes the steak.

I heard Sous-Vide was top of the line for steak cooking.

Bugeater 07-21-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9826284)
I use lump charcoal, and personally I can tell the difference in flavor. I'm not a charcoal snob, but I do have a preference when I have the time.

Lump charcoal absolutely, positively makes a difference in flavor.

tooge 07-21-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826291)
I heard Sous-Vide was top of the line for steak cooking.

It's one way to get a perfect internal temp. Another is to use the oven in cast iron, another is to use a meat thermometer. Regardless, A shitty piece of meat will be shitty no matter how you cook it though.

DeezNutz 07-21-2013 09:52 PM

I don't believe that the sear is a myth. 810 does a grilling segment with the dude from Smoke 'N' Fire, and he claimed that if you can hold your hand over your grill for more than a couple of seconds without having to pull away because of the heat, your grill is incapable of producing a high-quality steak.

This seems legit to me.

In58men 07-21-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9826309)
It's one way to get a perfect internal temp. Another is to use the oven in cast iron, another is to use a meat thermometer. Regardless, A shitty piece of meat will be shitty no matter how you cook it though.

I actually don't mind the cast iron way, but it's a rare for me to coin a steak like that. If it's a bad day outside then the kitchen is where I'll be. Basting a steak in butter is phenomenal.

Consistent1 07-21-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9826320)
I don't believe that the sear is a myth. 810 does a grilling segment with the dude from Smoke 'N' Fire, and he claimed that if you can hold your hand over your grill for more than a couple of seconds without having to pull away because of the heat, your grill is incapable of producing a high-quality steak.

This seems legit to me.

It can go either way bro. I made some killer filets a few weeks without the temp being real high. Rare and MR. Great stuff. There isn't always just one way.

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2013 10:24 PM

Whether it's gas or charcoal, the key to excellent results is knowing your grill.

Consistent1 07-21-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9826390)
Whether it's gas or charcoal, the key to excellent results is knowing your grill.

I just don't see how the gas lovers don't have a 100% clear picture from the start. It took me several years to get cooking temps, indirect heat and shit like that down. Charcoal rules. Go **** up some chicken on a gas grill because you are so impatient that a half hour is all you have. I don't even see how it's an argument.

In58men 07-21-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826424)
I just don't see how the gas lovers don't have a 100% clear picture from the start. It took me several years to get cooking temps, indirect heat and shit like that down. Charcoal rules. Go **** up some chicken on a gas grill because you are so impatient that a half hour is all you have. I don't even see how it's an argument.

30 minutes is even an exaggeration. If people are impatient because of coals, they really only take 10 minutes to start glowing.

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826424)
I just don't see how the gas lovers don't have a 100% clear picture from the start. It took me several years to get cooking temps, indirect heat and shit like that down. Charcoal rules. Go **** up some chicken on a gas grill because you are so impatient that a half hour is all you have. I don't even see how it's an argument.

Well, I've had a stainless steel seven burner grill for a decade. It also has a wood chip tray that I use on occasion as well.

I take my time when grilling food, whether it's chicken, dogs, brats, burgers and steaks. I make sure that everything is properly seasoned and prepared before it goes on the grill and the results have always been excellent.

Now, I can't claim that my food is the "best in the world", nor can I claim that it couldn't be improved by cooking on charcoal. But I can claim that it is very, very good and that inside my circle of friends, I'm considered the grill master.

Consistent1 07-21-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826437)
30 minutes is even an exaggeration. If people are impatient because of coals, they really only take 10 minutes to start glowing.

Haha. True, when I was younger I would just burn shit up by feeding fat to the fire.

In58men 07-21-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826443)
Haha. True, when I was younger I would just burn shit up by feeding fat to the fire.

I always closed the lid and left the top and bottom vents wide ass open. I ****ed off all kinds of money lol.

Consistent1 07-21-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826454)
I always closed the lid and left the top and bottom vents wide ass open. I ****ed off all kinds of money lol.

I always let my charcoal go for a few a hours first and gotten pretty good at guessing the right amount to use. Get a bag of Matchlight and a couple pounds of filets. Magic within 15 minutes when your grill goes up in flames.

In58men 07-21-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826474)
I always let my charcoal go for a few a hours first and gotten pretty good at guessing the right amount to use. Get a bag of Matchlight and a couple pounds of filets. Magic within 15 minutes when your grill goes up in flames.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/22/yqeju7eg.jpg


All you need is this do-hickey. Fill it to the top and it'll last you hours. Take 10 minutes for the coals to turn read. I can cook ribs for 2 hours and they're still hot as hell.

Grilling for me is so much better now that I've made the switch from match light to regular coals. They seem to burn 10 times longer.

Ming the Merciless 07-21-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826291)
I heard Sous-Vide was top of the line for steak cooking.

you still should sear the out side (on a grill etc) when using sous vide, but after it is at temperature...i think...

i still dont have my own

In58men 07-21-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9826489)
you still should sear the out side (on a grill etc) when using sous vide, but after it is at temperature...i think...

i still dont have my own

That method isn't for me. The way I cook a steak is simple. A couple pinches of Kosher salt and coarse black pepper. My favorite cut is the top sirloin, I like a chewy steak. I put the steak right on the flames to char up. About 3-4 minutes on each side until both sides look nice and charred. Then I cover the BBQ and set my vents 1/4 open. I cook for about 8-10 minutes for medium rare. The steaks are about an inch thick. Costco is pretty consistent with their sizes.

Ming the Merciless 07-21-2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826273)
I got destroyed for saying gas tastes different to me. You better be careful.

you got destroyed for saying you could taste the gas


you dummy

you can taste the coal smoke

propane has no taste

Ming the Merciless 07-21-2013 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826499)
That method isn't for me.

what sous vide machine do you have?

its ****ing fool proof

Ming the Merciless 07-21-2013 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826499)
My favorite cut is the top sirloin, I like a chewy steak. .


:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:


holy shit and you claim you can taste propane gas on your food


wow


youre a ****ing winner bro

Consistent1 07-21-2013 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9826483)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/22/yqeju7eg.jpg


All you need is this do-hickey. Fill it to the top and it'll last you hours. Take 10 minutes for the coals to turn read. I can cook ribs for 2 hours and they're still hot as hell.

Grilling for me is so much better now that I've made the switch from match light to regular coals. They seem to burn 10 times longer.

Might as well get a gas grill bro. ha

Consistent1 07-21-2013 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9826500)
you got destroyed for saying you could taste the gas


you dummy

you can taste the coal smoke

propane has no taste


It surprises me to see you of all people arguing this point. I use a regular Weber grill to make some damn good stuff,

So, "you dummy"

Ming the Merciless 07-22-2013 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 9826507)
It surprises me to see you of all people arguing this point. I use a regular Weber grill to make some damn good stuff,

So, "you dummy"

The reason you're surprised is because you read whet I wrote wrong.

I love charcoal flavor. I have charcoal grills.

Sometimes I don't want that flavor though or I want to use gas.

This other guy tried telling me he can taste gas.

Yes the same guy who likes chewy top sirloin.

If I had to pick one grill it would be gas with a smoker box.

I love charcoal. I just love gas too. And use it more....you can add smoke....if u

want

Silock 07-22-2013 12:45 AM

I can make a mean steak on a gas grill. It's all about getting that searing temp high, and then moving it to a lower temp part of the grill to finish.

Congrats on the new grill, man!

Simply Red 07-22-2013 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9826058)
Yeah, no you can't because it can't get hot enough.

yep Foreman grills are garbage.

Simply Red 07-22-2013 01:11 AM

I mean - if you're making a grilled cheese to go with your tomato soup - like the beav does, then that's fine.

Chief Roundup 07-22-2013 05:06 AM

Sucks for you that you cannot properly use a charcoal grill.

BlackHelicopters 07-22-2013 05:22 AM

Gas grills suck . No they don't. He called me a bad name. No I didn't.


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