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Dave Lane 11-05-2010 10:35 AM

Can you comprehend it?
 
With my new interest in astronomy and getting a new camera yesterday for my new telescope I present this fun quick little video. I might bump this thread when I start getting some images from deep space objects.

Check the end of the thread for Newest Space Photos! Thanks for looking!



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Dave Lane 11-05-2010 10:37 AM

Oh and kill the Raiders!!

MOhillbilly 11-05-2010 10:43 AM

IF THE EARTH STOPS WE FLY OFF!!!!! THE STUFF OF NIGHTMARES!

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-05-2010 10:55 AM

Astronomy is fascinating. Dave, let us know when you see Planet Nibiru getting close, it should be viewable in the beginning of 2012 I expect. I just need a few days to hide my gold before the Annunaki arrive. Thanks in advance!

MOhillbilly 11-05-2010 11:11 AM

Dave do you do any astronomy club stuff in KC?

Dave Lane 11-05-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7147370)
Dave do you do any astronomy club stuff in KC?

I've been to one star party and it was pretty cool. Hoping to get to more before too long.

MOhillbilly 11-05-2010 03:11 PM

when i was a kid my dad was into telescopes and my uncle was into photography. Spent many a night lookin through an eye piece.

Bump what you have when you have it.


My cousin(photography uncles boy) has a super slick set up. tracks by itself, takes pics, ect.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2010 03:17 PM

http://astro.wsu.edu/worthey/astro/h...ns/aliens9.jpg

Baby Lee 11-05-2010 03:25 PM

I can look up at the universe and say "Dude, I am you."


- Kind of puts that Stewart Obama exchange in perspective. ;)

chasedude 11-05-2010 03:44 PM

Cool, I'd be interested in what you can capture.

Dave Lane 11-05-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7148161)
when i was a kid my dad was into telescopes and my uncle was into photography. Spent many a night lookin through an eye piece.

Bump what you have when you have it.


My cousin(photography uncles boy) has a super slick set up. tracks by itself, takes pics, ect.

I'm getting there. I have an autoguider for the scope and a wedge to do photography with. Just bought a cheapy $350 camera to get started with. Make sure I like it before dropping big bucks on a good one.

Dave Lane 11-05-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7147320)
Astronomy is fascinating. Dave, let us know when you see Planet Nibiru getting close, it should be viewable in the beginning of 2012 I expect. I just need a few days to hide my gold before the Annunaki arrive. Thanks in advance!

I'll keep you updated so you know when to stop jerkin. :)

I gotta admit you are growing on me as a poster...

Baby Lee 11-05-2010 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7148264)
I'll keep you updated so you know when to stop jerkin. :)

I gotta admit you are growing on me as a poster...

Watch out, you keep up the pillow talk, and next thing you know Fed-Ex is delivering buckets of boar goo 'so you can ballast your tripod with it.'

Is there anything boar goo CAN'T do?

Dave Lane 11-05-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 7148281)
Watch out, you keep up the pillow talk, and next thing you know Fed-Ex is delivering buckets of boar goo 'so you can ballast your tripod with it.'

Is there anything boar goo CAN'T do?

A very deep question Mr. Lee and much like the wise owl and the tootsie pop one the world may never know.

Dave Lane 01-06-2011 05:43 PM

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First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...

Art Vader 01-06-2011 05:57 PM

dunno if you saw this photo but it pretty much blew my mind.. the eclipse that just happened with the international space station in the shot

http://mblogs.discovermagazine.com/b...lipse-picture/

Extra Point 01-06-2011 06:00 PM

Don't get elliptical on me, and shit!

mlyonsd 01-06-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7326885)
First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...

That's awesome. Did you take it outside of city lights?

My nearest neighbors are a mile away and we have very little ground lighting. I have a cheaper telescope and usually just look at the moon with it but that has gotten boring.

My goal for the year is to see the rings of Saturn.

AirForceChief 01-06-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 7326956)
I have a cheaper telescope and usually just look at the moon with it but that has gotten boring.

What scope do you have? I just got my daughter and me an introductory scope (i.e., cheaper): Orion StarSeeker 80. It has the programable tracking device on it, as well.

Also, what camera are you using?

Gonzo 01-06-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7326885)
First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...

That's one hell of a pic man. Really impressive stuff. I think that's something I could get into with my boy when he gets a little older.
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Discuss Thrower 01-06-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7148254)
I'm getting there. I have an autoguider for the scope and a wedge to do photography with. Just bought a cheapy $350 camera to get started with. Make sure I like it before dropping big bucks on a good one.

That rig is only useful when it's snapping candids of some fit coeds.

Dave Lane 01-06-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 7326956)
That's awesome. Did you take it outside of city lights?

My nearest neighbors are a mile away and we have very little ground lighting. I have a cheaper telescope and usually just look at the moon with it but that has gotten boring.

My goal for the year is to see the rings of Saturn.

No just took it in my back yard in Leawood. Saturn should be up to see late feb early march

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2011 07:52 PM

Awesome.

I took an Astronomy class and lab a few years ago and really enjoyed it. Want to buy a scope at some point, but we get too much light pollution where we live.

Dave Lane 01-06-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirForceChief (Post 7326982)
What scope do you have? I just got my daughter and me an introductory scope (i.e., cheaper): Orion StarSeeker 80. It has the programable tracking device on it, as well.

Also, what camera are you using?

I've got a Takahashi FS-102 refractor on a Losmandy G11 mount and a SBIG 8300 CCD camera. Its not a beginner rig but its lighter than my beast and easier to set up. Orion makes good stuff for the most part i have a Orion auto guider and scope on the Takahashi.

JD10367 01-06-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7148161)
when i was a kid my dad was into telescopes and my uncle was into photography. Spent many a night lookin through an eye piece.

When I was a kid my brother had a telescope. I also spent many a night looking through an eyepiece. But it was because we lived in the city, and I had it trained on the windows of other apartment buildings. :evil:

baitism 01-06-2011 09:43 PM

Almost changed my major after I took astronomy in college. But, then I remembered there aren't many jobs in it.

mohammedhali 01-06-2011 09:50 PM

Who's narrating this video? Before I watched it I thought it was going to be a Carl Sagan video.

J Diddy 01-06-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7326885)
First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...


Awesome.

Fish 01-06-2011 10:42 PM

:thumb:

googlegoogle 01-06-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7327148)
I've got a Takahashi FS-102 refractor on a Losmandy G11 mount and a SBIG 8300 CCD camera. Its not a beginner rig but its lighter than my beast and easier to set up. Orion makes good stuff for the most part i have a Orion auto guider and scope on the Takahashi.

Pretty cool. I thought reflectors caught more light. Lots of websites for handmade reflectors.

Dave Lane 01-07-2011 01:01 AM

I have a big 14" Celestron and Meade SCT scopes, but the little Takahashi takes good shots and is a easy setup.

Got some great shots tonight taking a pic of the Horsehead nebula right now.

Earthling 01-07-2011 01:57 AM

Astronomy is mind-blowing. Great pic you took! :thumb:
Its cool being able to see into the past.

Inspector 01-07-2011 08:08 AM

I think I just saw June Lockhart and Angela Cartwright in one of those pics. Cool.

I hope they find their way home. I've been worried about them for years.

MOhillbilly 01-07-2011 08:25 AM

uh, thats pretty slick you can do that in your backyard dave.

drool.

Bwana 01-07-2011 08:48 AM

Cool stuff Dave, but don't tick off the aliens!

http://roadmonster.org/wp-content/up...11/ufo-gif.gif

Molitoth 01-07-2011 09:30 AM

Great Video find Dave, truely inspiring. I love the narrators voice as well!

Molitoth 01-07-2011 10:08 AM

I am now a huge fan of this guy.

philhellenes on youtube. He makes a tons of great videos!
I love this type of stuff, I am in awe.

Dave Lane 01-07-2011 12:42 PM

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Here's a little better shot of the same area I took last night with a little more detail and a longer exposure...

AirForceChief 01-07-2011 03:43 PM

I stepped out of a super nova...and then my mom yelled, "Be sure to wipe your shoes before you come into the house." I hate that b****!

Dave Lane 01-11-2011 01:11 AM

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New pic same area but a 30 Minutes exposure...

LiveSteam 01-11-2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7326885)
First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...

I see the Lord Jesus Christ in your pic.
Can you see it Dave?

Buck 01-11-2011 01:55 AM

Whoa...awesome!!!

What resolution are your pics? Can't check from my iPod. I might use on as my comp background if it's at least 1920 x 1080.

Dave Lane 01-11-2011 08:34 AM

I should be able to get that close. The raw image is about 3200 x 2500. I'm using it for my background and it looks pretty cool.

Jenson71 01-11-2011 09:02 AM

I'm amazed that a personal/private telescope can get those images. That's a great piece of technology.

tooge 01-11-2011 09:35 AM

do these "star parties" have pizza, beer, chicks, that sort of thing, or are they more for like looking at the sky and stuff?

Dave Lane 01-11-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7345726)
I see the Lord Jesus Christ in your pic.
Can you see it Dave?

Actually I have a pic I took of a latte I had that looked like there was jesus in the foam, so there you are :)

Dave Lane 01-11-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7346028)
do these "star parties" have pizza, beer, chicks, that sort of thing, or are they more for like looking at the sky and stuff?

Yes they generally do but maybe not the focus of the event :)

Dave Lane 01-12-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 7345752)
Whoa...awesome!!!

What resolution are your pics? Can't check from my iPod. I might use on as my comp background if it's at least 1920 x 1080.

I tried to post the larger size for your background but its too big PM me your email and I'll send it to you .

chasedude 01-12-2011 05:56 PM

Cool pics Dave :thumb:

I use Spitzer and Hubble pics for my background and would love to add yours to the cycle.

PM sent

alnorth 01-12-2011 05:57 PM

One sad reality today is that virtually the entire US is bathed in such a bright nighttime light that most people spend most of their lives never really seeing how cool the night sky can really be. Even if you are in a small town it all gets drowned out in a dull grayish off-black with only the brightest stars visible.

You pretty much have to go to someplace like northern Arizona or rural Utah to see the true beauty of the night sky. That actually will probably play a significant role in deciding where I want to retire someday 25-30ish years from now.

National Geographic wrote a really cool article about light pollution a couple years or so ago. I go outside, and I just simply don't see stuff like this:

http://s.ngm.com/2008/11/light-pollu...ht-sky-615.jpg

MahiMike 01-12-2011 06:02 PM

No. No I can't comprehend it.

alnorth 01-12-2011 09:42 PM

another interesting picture of the same group of stars. If the image on the right looks familiar to you, believe it or not, that image on the left does exist in some places in the western and northern US farther from cities.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...not_pretty.jpg

Dave Lane 01-29-2011 07:14 PM

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M81 and M82 from last night... 3 hour photo. A American-Canadian team determined the distance to M81 to be 12.9 million light-years ± 0.9 million light-years. So the light I recorded last night happened about 13 million years ago.

Explanation: On the left, surrounded by blue spiral arms, is spiral galaxy M81. On the right marked by red gas and dust clouds, is irregular galaxy M82. This stunning vista shows these two mammoth galaxies locked in gravitational combat, as they have been for the past billion years. The gravity from each galaxy dramatically affects the other during each hundred million-year pass. Last go-round, M82's gravity likely raised density waves rippling around M81, resulting in the richness of M81's spiral arms. But M81 left M82 with violent star forming regions and colliding gas clouds so energetic the galaxy glows in X-rays. In a few billion years only one galaxy will remain.

Updated pic...

BigMeatballDave 01-29-2011 09:05 PM

I LOVE this shit. I really hope we get to experience Betelgeuse going supernova in this lifetime.

jd1020 01-29-2011 09:28 PM

Time to upgrade to a CGE PRO 1400 HD.

Dave Lane 01-29-2011 09:32 PM

I used a CGEM mount to take this one...

Dave Lane 01-29-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7392241)
I LOVE this shit. I really hope we get to experience Betelgeuse going supernova in this lifetime.

It may have already. If it blew up today we won't see the light for 1400 years. Take your vitamins. :)

BigMeatballDave 01-29-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7392282)
It may have already. If it blew up today we won't see the light for 1400 years. Take your vitamins. :)

:D I wonder if scientists will actually know if it has, until one day its light out at 2am?

ChiefaRoo 01-29-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7326885)
First pic. Of Orion M43 from last night...

Cool Dave, I see Uranus.

bowener 01-29-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7392282)
It may have already. If it blew up today we won't see the light for 1400 years. Take your vitamins. :)

Well, true... but it may have gone Super Nova 1400 years ago as well...

BigMeatballDave 01-29-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 7392438)
Well, true... but it may have gone Super Nova 1400 years ago as well...

Lets hope it did. :thumb:

chasedude 01-30-2011 11:30 AM

Cool Pic again Dave, nice!

Crush 01-30-2011 01:36 PM

1400?

I thought it was only 600 light years away.
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Easy 6 01-30-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7349758)
One sad reality today is that virtually the entire US is bathed in such a bright nighttime light that most people spend most of their lives never really seeing how cool the night sky can really be. Even if you are in a small town it all gets drowned out in a dull grayish off-black with only the brightest stars visible.

You pretty much have to go to someplace like northern Arizona or rural Utah to see the true beauty of the night sky. That actually will probably play a significant role in deciding where I want to retire someday 25-30ish years from now.

National Geographic wrote a really cool article about light pollution a couple years or so ago. I go outside, and I just simply don't see stuff like this:

http://s.ngm.com/2008/11/light-pollu...ht-sky-615.jpg

Absolutely, theres nothing like being waaay out in the country on a clear night. Back in my service days, i spent untold hours using my night vision goggles to stare at the sky while out in the field, the sky literally explodes with stars when you're wearing those on a clear night out in the boonies.

Rasputin 01-30-2011 02:44 PM

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Dave Lane 02-01-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 7393108)
1400?

I thought it was only 600 light years away.
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Sorry the Orion nebula, which is about 1400 light years away, is what I was thinking of. You can go to half douses on your vitamins.

Dave Lane 02-01-2011 10:54 PM

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New start of a pic for today....

Barnard 33. Known to most people as the horse head nebula.

Took me awhile to get a shot of this little guy. Always cloudy when I tried.

BigMeatballDave 02-01-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7399640)
New start of a pic for today....

Barnard 33. Know to most people as the horse head nebula.

Took me awhile to get a shot of this little guy. Always cloudy when Itried.

Awesome.

Dave Lane 02-01-2011 11:53 PM

And all from my backyard in town...

chasedude 02-04-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7399754)
And all from my backyard in town...

Another good one Dave! Keep em com'n :thumb:

Dave Lane 03-29-2011 02:05 PM

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Had to put this up, its not mine but its a 60 hour exposure in 4 sections of the Orion nebula, Horsehead nebula and the flame nebula. I know the guy who did it and had to share. I thought it was tits.

Buck 03-29-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7524974)
Had to put this up, its not mine but its a 60 hour exposure in 4 sections of the Orion nebula, Horsehead nebula and the flame nebula. I know the guy who did it and had to share. I thought it was tits.

How exactly do you keep a 60 hour exposure without noticing any movement? I mean the Earth is moving, right?

Iowanian 03-29-2011 02:10 PM

Sounds like you're looking for God.

warrior 03-29-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7399640)
New start of a pic for today....

Barnard 33. Known to most people as the horse head nebula.

Took me awhile to get a shot of this little guy. Always cloudy when I tried.

Cool pics as always Dave.

I need some advice on Lenses I bought a Celestron Nexstar-8 it came with a

40mm lens what other size lens should I buy first.

King_Chief_Fan 03-29-2011 02:27 PM

wow...that is impressive stuff. It leaves little doubt about the creativity God had when he created the universe...Awesome

Saulbadguy 03-29-2011 02:29 PM

Hey look, Orion is bankrupt.

Dave Lane 03-29-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior (Post 7525020)
Cool pics as always Dave.

I need some advice on Lenses I bought a Celestron Nexstar-8 it came with a

40mm lens what other size lens should I buy first.

A lot depends on what you are looking to see. I'd get something in the 12mm range and then maybe 20mm range too. 40 mm is nice and wide but not very powerful. If you are in town I think I have a 25 mm Plossl I could donate to you, and you would be more than welcome, if you bring your scope over, to use the better lens I have too. I have a pretty good selection you could pick through.

Dave Lane 03-29-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7524987)
Sounds like you're looking for God.

Hey if there was one and I found him I'd be pumped. Maybe he is just gone away and thats why there are no miracles anymore.

...and no Insane Clown Posse posts please and thank you :)

Jenson71 03-29-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7327148)
I've got a Takahashi FS-102 refractor on a Losmandy G11 mount and a SBIG 8300 CCD camera. Its not a beginner rig but its lighter than my beast and easier to set up. Orion makes good stuff for the most part i have a Orion auto guider and scope on the Takahashi.

How much does a set like that cost?

My understanding was that the shots you are taking could only be seen through some sort of university or research project that would cost tens of thousands of dollars to put together.

Dave Lane 03-29-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 7524979)
How exactly do you keep a 60 hour exposure without noticing any movement? I mean the Earth is moving, right?

Well his exposures are over 2 months time and yes that is what really tough about doing this. Usually you do 10 minute "subs" at a time then stack them in software to gather all the light from the different frames. If the scope varies by 1/32 of the width of a human hair anytime during the 10 minute subs the shot is ruined and you have to toss it out.

The mounts that guide the scopes for the pictures are insanely complex. And expensive for the really good ones.


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