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CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:20 PM

Browns Trade Trent Richardson to Colts
 
Per Adam Schefter, Browns receive Colts' 1st round pick. WOW.

Pablo 09-18-2013 04:21 PM

WTF??????

God, it's not often you're happy you're a Chiefs fan instead of another fanbase.

Discuss Thrower 09-18-2013 04:21 PM

Good move..?

CrazyPhuD 09-18-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9991177)
Per Adam Schefter, Colts receive Browns 1st round pick. WOW.

The colts raped the browns....they got Richardson AND the Browns 1st rounder? We got the wrong GM!:cuss:

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:22 PM

I would imagine Cleveland will revolt over this, unless there's something I don't know about.

Pablo 09-18-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9991183)
The colts raped the browns....they got Richardson AND the Browns 1st rounder? We got the wrong GM!:cuss:

LMAO

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9991183)
The colts raped the browns....they got Richardson AND the Browns 1st rounder? We got the wrong GM!:cuss:

Sorry, edited it now. LMAO

Although with the Browns' history, that wouldn't be unheard of.

Pablo 09-18-2013 04:23 PM

Man, how happy are you if you're Trent Richardson?

Get to go to a contender with a young, awesome QB.

Rasputin 09-18-2013 04:23 PM

Both threads posted at 5:20 not sure what thread is Q.


The **** are the Browns doing?


Are they out to get Johny Football? ? :hmmm:


Hogfarmer not going be happy about this.

CrazyPhuD 09-18-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9991191)
Both threads posted at 5:20 not sure what thread is Q.


The **** are the Browns doing?


Are they out to get Johny Football? ? :hmmm:


Hogfarmer not going be happy about this.

There is no Q which is the Q!

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9991191)
Both threads posted at 5:20 not sure what thread is Q.


The **** are the Browns doing?


Are they out to get Johny Football? ? :hmmm:


Hogfarmer not going be happy about this.

If someone ties Chiefs 'n O's fan on Twitter breaking news, shouldn't the tie go to me? I mean he has Twitter wired straight into his brain.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-18-2013 04:27 PM

Holy shit. Though even just in year 2, you usually have a pretty good idea about what kind of RB you have. His value would be shit after this year.

Rain Man 09-18-2013 04:28 PM

I'm not quite sure why Trent Richardson is so highly regarded. He's averaging about 3.5 yard per carry in his NFL career. Unless their offensive line consists of five Tony Mandariches, that's not impressive at all. I'd be thrilled to trade him for a 1st.

chiefzilla1501 09-18-2013 04:28 PM

Call me crazy, but I think this is a great move by the Browns.

SAUTO 09-18-2013 04:28 PM

Wow. Crazy deal
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Rasputin 09-18-2013 04:30 PM

I think the Colt's are the team acting out of desperation to get Andrew Luck some help and the Browns are mailing it in for the season.

chiefzilla1501 09-18-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9991210)
I'm not quite sure why Trent Richardson is so highly regarded. He's averaging about 3.5 yard per carry in his NFL career. Unless their offensive line consists of five Tony Mandariches, that's not impressive at all. I'd be thrilled to trade him for a 1st.

I think Richardson will be pretty good. He's a good mix of speed and toughness. Not elite on either, but very good on both dimensions. When I watch him play, he dances a lot behind the line. His blocking hasn't been very good at all. I don't think you need elite blocking for him. I think you need at least adequate blocking and he'll be fine. With Luck calling the shots, that's going to open up a lot more running lanes than he's used to in the NFL.

O.city 09-18-2013 04:31 PM

I think it's good for the browns. I'm not nor was I ever really sold on Richardson. Yes, he's a physical specimen, but he gets hurt a lot and isn't really a game breaking rb IMO.

Plus he was behind a great ol in college

Strongside 09-18-2013 04:32 PM

Holy shit.

O.city 09-18-2013 04:32 PM

On a Sid note, the browns just practically punted the season.

Tombstone RJ 09-18-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9991220)
I think the Colt's are the team acting out of desperation to get Andrew Luck some help and the Browns are mailing it in for the season.

Cleveland is not mailing it in 2 games into the damn season! lol! Obviously TR didn't fit into their plans and the Colts needed a RB.

WhawhaWhat 09-18-2013 04:33 PM

Tank for Teddy in full swing for the Brownies.

RealSNR 09-18-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9991211)
Call me crazy, but I think this is a great move by the Browns.

Explain?

O.city 09-18-2013 04:35 PM

It's a great move for the browns IMO. They will compete for the first pick in the draft likely even with Richardson. He's a guy they didn't like, so they got a first round pick for a guy who they don't want.

Now they could have the top pick for their qb, another first for a playmaker, and iirc, they loaded up on picks last year.

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:36 PM

This on the same day the Browns announce Hoyer as the starting QB instead of Jason Campbell. This is your classic play deady for Teddy move. Stockpile picks, hit the shitter, and build your roster.

At least we've got another guaranteed win on our schedule now.

Rasputin 09-18-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9991228)
Cleveland is not mailing it in 2 games into the damn season! lol! Obviously TR didn't fit into their plans and the Colts needed a RB.


I know but think it's funny. I don't think they are sold on Weeden for obvious reasons but getting that first round pick sure looks like they are selling out this season and ready to move on.

In all honesty who knows what the Browns are thinking?


Anyone remember that clip of the Browns fan going off in front of their stadium? Funny shit.

FD 09-18-2013 04:38 PM

Great move by the Browns. First round picks are more valuable than most RB's in the league and Richardson has not been that impressive. Alabama RB's I think are just generally overrated.

The knew regime didn't draft Weeden. They clearly know he isn't the future and want to stock up on draft picks to make sure they get their real QBotF next year.

Brock 09-18-2013 04:39 PM

Life in the factory of sadness

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:39 PM

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Pablo 09-18-2013 04:39 PM

This is great for the Colts, not the Browns.

Richardson has all the makings to be a productive RB in the NFL. Now he can go to a team where he just has to be a good RB instead of being the savior for the franchise. I don't buy the whole "not a good fit for our system" bullshit.

What's your system? Not having young playmakers? That's a good system.

Browns are tanking the season early.

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:41 PM

This certainly gives the Colts a nice young offense for years to come.

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 9991250)
This is great for the Colts, not the Browns.

Richardson has all the makings to be a productive RB in the NFL. Now he can go to a team where he just has to be a good RB instead of being the savior for the franchise. I don't buy the whole "not a good fit for our system" bullshit.

What's your system? Not having young playmakers? That's a good system.

Browns are tanking the season early.

Very good running backs are routinely found way beyond the first round.

Marshawn Lynch was traded for a 4th rounder.

Getting a first round pick in return for Richardson is highway robbery.

Tombstone RJ 09-18-2013 04:44 PM

the colts offensive line sucks and TR is gonna get beat up.

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9991258)
the colts offensive line sucks and TR is gonna get beat up.

Yep. The Browns offensive line is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Indy's, yet TR averaged only 3.5 a carry.

This move smells like Irsay, not Grigson.

Halfcan 09-18-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9991210)
I'm not quite sure why Trent Richardson is so highly regarded. He's averaging about 3.5 yard per carry in his NFL career. Unless their offensive line consists of five Tony Mandariches, that's not impressive at all. I'd be thrilled to trade him for a 1st.

Yep seems like a good way to trade a bust and get a good return.

Mr. Laz 09-18-2013 04:46 PM

two 1st round picks for the Browns next year


Weeden on his way out

WakkaWakka 09-18-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9991249)
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LMAO I love this video!!

O.city 09-18-2013 04:47 PM

Rbs are being devalued by the day yet the browns just got a first round pick for one that's not great but decent.

Great for the browns

GoChargers 09-18-2013 04:48 PM

Colts overpaid for an overrated player.

Rasputin 09-18-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakkaWakka (Post 9991268)
LMAO I love this video!!



That is one bad ass signature WakkaWakka! Rep! :thumb:

O.city 09-18-2013 04:50 PM

Browns now have 7 picks in the top 4 rounds. For a team that's not competing this year, they're positioning for th future

CrazyPhuD 09-18-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9991257)
Very good running backs are routinely found way beyond the first round.

Marshawn Lynch was traded for a 4th rounder.

Getting a first round pick in return for Richardson is highway robbery.

This....if anything the colts proved during the peyton years that RBs are utterly replaceable. You draft them young, you run them into the ground and you let them sign somewhere else.

Does anyone really give a shit about the RBs on the patriots, the packers, the broncos, etc? The only time people care about elite RBs is when they don't have a QB.

As much as I love Jamaal(who was drafted in rd 3), I get rid of him in a heartbeat if it meant getting an elite QB.

Direckshun 09-18-2013 04:52 PM

This is a good investment for the Browns.

This is a team that has a pretty good DT rotation, a little passrushing talent, some great OL pieces and basically nothing else.

This is going to speed up their rebuilding process. The key is, can they actually strike gold.

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:52 PM

Didn't Irsay promise months ago that a big move was coming? He strikes me as an assclown, but there it is.

Halfcan 09-18-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991277)
Browns now have 7 picks in the top 4 rounds. For a team that's not competing this year, they're positioning for th future

They will blow the picks. They always find the duds-lol

Fritz88 09-18-2013 04:53 PM

Good for both.

O.city 09-18-2013 04:53 PM

Richardson has 300is carries and has 3 over 15 yards. He's not nearly as explosive as everyone thought

Halfcan 09-18-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9991285)
This is a good investment for the Browns.

This is a team that has a pretty good DT rotation, a little passrushing talent, some great OL pieces and basically nothing else.

This is going to speed up their rebuilding process. The key is, can they actually strike gold.

And the Survey says.................NO!

:doh!: the look on Brown's fans at next years draft-then :banghead:

O.city 09-18-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9991288)
They will blow the picks. They always find the duds-lol

So by that logic, Alex smith will be a turd here because its what the chiefs do?

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9991288)
They will blow the picks. They always find the duds-lol

Not with Lombardi. Chud and Norv know QB's and running backs, too.

O.city 09-18-2013 04:56 PM

They ended up with Richardson and weeden, when they could have had tannehill and Doug Martin

Buck 09-18-2013 04:56 PM

What the ****? Indy Instacontender.

salame 09-18-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991291)
Richardson has 300is carries and has 3 over 15 yards. He's not nearly as explosive as everyone thought

He's behind a J-V o-line with a bunch of shitty receivers blocking downfield for him. His "fullback" is a converted RB who is smaller than he is.
oh and BRANDON WEEDEN

dude is a beast and will go HAM in indy

WakkaWakka 09-18-2013 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9991276)
That is one bad ass signature WakkaWakka! Rep! :thumb:

Wish I could take credit for the pic, but it was posted on Arrowhead Prides twitter and I loved it!

O.city 09-18-2013 04:57 PM

Now Richardson and luck are free agents at the same time, added to Indus spending spree this offseason, they're extremely win now

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 04:57 PM

You'll have to forgive Browns fans if they're skeptical of it all, but in theory it's a good move.

O.city 09-18-2013 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 9991310)
He's behind a J-V o-line with a bunch of shitty receivers blocking downfield for him. His "fullback" is a converted RB who is smaller than he is.
oh and BRANDON WEEDEN

dude is a beast and will go HAM in indy

Um, his ol in Cleveland is much better than in Indy

salame 09-18-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991316)
Um, his ol in Cleveland is much better than in Indy

for pass pro yes...

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9991305)
What the ****? Indy Instacontender.

Maybe In 2014, when they have a left tackle

DJ's left nut 09-18-2013 05:03 PM

Something that adds value to the Colts that some may not be considering is that the Browns are eating his signing bonus and it's cap figure.

In other words, the Colts will get Richardson for the next 3 years and only his base salary will count against the cap.

1.32 mil
2.25 mil
3.18 mil

Folks - that's a damn cheap runningback. Lynch was cheap because he was on the last year of his deal and the Hawks would have to pay to extend him.

Maybe you think Richardson's overrated, but he's still probably no worse than an average starting RB and he does have some potential to improve. To get that guy at a total cost of about $6 million over the next 3 seasons is pretty damn nice.

I think Richardson has the ability to be a very good RB still. I could be wrong, obviously, but he's shown good hands at times, good burst at times and great power at times. He needs to put the three together, to be sure, but that's better than simply lacking any of those skills.

It's funny that Dane mentions Lynch because Marshawn had the exact same rap that many are now putting on Richardson - he was seen as a plodder; a JAG guy that will get what is blocked and nothing more. Once he was put in a nice spot, he excelled.

I think getting him in Indy where teams have to respect the pass a little more will allow him to thrive. We shall see.

DJ's left nut 09-18-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991312)
Now Richardson and luck are free agents at the same time, added to Indus spending spree this offseason, they're extremely win now

With no signing bonus to accelerate against their cap, they have a lot of flexibility in how they approach Richardson's potential FA status over the next year or so. This doesn't strike me as a win-now issue at all.

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9991337)
It's funny that Dane mentions Lynch because Marshawn had the exact same rap that many are now putting on Richardson - he was seen as a plodder; a JAG guy that will get what is blocked and nothing more. Once he was put in a nice spot, he excelled.

I should be noted that Seattle has an elite or near elite offensive line, whereas the Colts have a Division II offensive line.

O.city 09-18-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9991337)
Something that adds value to the Colts that some may not be considering is that the Browns are eating his signing bonus and it's cap figure.

In other words, the Colts will get Richardson for the next 3 years and only his base salary will count against the cap.

1.32 mil
2.25 mil
3.18 mil

Folks - that's a damn cheap runningback. Lynch was cheap because he was on the last year of his deal and the Hawks would have to pay to extend him.

Maybe you think Richardson's overrated, but he's still probably no worse than an average starting RB and he does have some potential to improve. To get that guy at a total cost of about $6 million over the next 3 seasons is pretty damn nice.

I think Richardson has the ability to be a very good RB still. I could be wrong, obviously, but he's shown good hands at times, good burst at times and great power at times. He needs to put the three together, to be sure, but that's better than simply lacking any of those skills.

It's funny that Dane mentions Lynch because Marshawn had the exact same rap that many are now putting on Richardson - he was seen as a plodder; a JAG guy that will get what is blocked and nothing more. Once he was put in a nice spot, he excelled.

I think getting him in Indy where teams have to respect the pass a little more will allow him to thrive. We shall see.

That is cheap, but they still gave up a first rounder for the guy. That's not nearly a good or deep enough team to give away those type picks for a rb who "might" put it together

DTLB58 09-18-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991316)
Um, his ol in Cleveland is much better than in Indy

But remember, it's much easier to run with the threat of a great QB and passing attack which Indy has and the Browns do not.

Titty Meat 09-18-2013 05:06 PM

A 1st for a rb? Lmao

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9991338)
With no signing bonus to accelerate against their cap, they have a lot of flexibility in how they approach Richardson's potential FA status over the next year or so. This doesn't strike me as a win-now issue at all.

Since Richardson was a first rounder, he's automatically locked in for four years, IIRC. Indy will have the option at the end of this season to extend him to year five.

O.city 09-18-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9991338)
With no signing bonus to accelerate against their cap, they have a lot of flexibility in how they approach Richardson's potential FA status over the next year or so. This doesn't strike me as a win-now issue at all.

Added to the spending spree they had this offseason on, IMO, mediocre players, I don't think it's a good idea

BossChief 09-18-2013 05:12 PM

They are SOLD on Johnny Manziel, who they have been scouting.

Trade Trent...start Hoyer

They be tankin, dogg.

Titty Meat 09-18-2013 05:16 PM

I forgot we play the Browns next month. Excellent.

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 05:16 PM

This certainly shakes up the picture early in the season...Colts addressing a need and Browns announcing the tank-job.

DJ's left nut 09-18-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9991341)
I should be noted that Seattle has an elite or near elite offensive line, whereas the Colts have a Division II offensive line.

I don't think I agree with you there.

Gosder Cherilus is a good player and, IMO, one of the better RTs in football. Granted, he's better in pass-pro than in run, but he's solid.

Castonzo is...well I don't know really. At times he's looked horrid but at times he's looked very very good. In the end, I think he's just a very young but still very talented LT. I think he's on the upswing.

Satele is a solid C. He's not elite, but he's no worse than average and perhaps a little better than that.

Donald Thomas was a very good G over the last couple of years in NE. He's been a key reserve and a solid player for them. He's a plus G, thought not an amazing one. He's a bit of an unknown because last year was the first time he got starters reps, but he's certainly not done anything to suggest he isn't going to be a solid starter.

McGlynn....yeah, you got me there - he sucks.

The Colts don't have a bad O-line, they just don't have an amazing one. But in the end, give me an average O-line with 7 in the box over an amazing O-line with 8 or sometimes 9 in the box every single time.

DaneMcCloud 09-18-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9991377)
The Colts don't have a bad O-line, they just don't have an amazing one. But in the end, give me an average O-line with 7 in the box over an amazing O-line with 8 or sometimes 9 in the box every single time.

I think they have a horrible offensive line. Luck was sacked like 42 times (off the top of my head) last year and he's had issues this season.

Cherlius is an upgrade but they have issues at every spot. Satele has been on at least three teams now and he's no better than average, at best.

They have significant problems and I have a hard time believing that T.R. will exceed his 3.5 per carry average this season.

O.city 09-18-2013 05:20 PM

Would you spend pick 12-22 of next years draft on Richardson if he were in that draft?

I don't think I would

salame 09-18-2013 05:22 PM

I guess they think the missing link to their Offense was RB. They must like him for their team better than any players they scouted in that range.

Titty Meat 09-18-2013 05:23 PM

Indianapolis were pretty high up there in sacks allowed last year and still are this year. Irsay mentioned it this off season how they need to protect Luck. I could see a run game helping but not at the expense of trading a 1st round pick.

O.city 09-18-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 9991386)
I guess they think the missing link to their Offense was RB. They must like him for their team better than any players they scouted in that range.

If they're basing this on players they've scouted for the 2014 draft now, they're not very smart

CaliforniaChief 09-18-2013 05:25 PM

Obviously the Colts are all-in, figuring that they've got their QB and some other talent around him.

But honestly, I still think we're better than they are and once our offense gels in the 2nd half of the season, we'll be a stronger team than they are even with Richardson.

O.city 09-18-2013 05:26 PM

You've got your qb for the next 10 plus years.

IMO, they're not being smart building for the long haul

RealSNR 09-18-2013 05:27 PM

So who else is picking up Willis McGahee in fantasy football?

If your league uses the waiver wire to acquire free agents, go get him. Now.

Rams Fan 09-18-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9991398)
You've got your qb for the next 10 plus years.

IMO, they're not being smart building for the long haul

Richardson is going to be Luck what James was to Peyton.


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