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O.city 02-19-2013 05:14 PM

I'm somewhat starting to question if some of you actually remember Trent playing in KC, other than 2001.

HemiEd 02-19-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9416453)
He was an OK, solid QB. The best QB for the Chiefs since Montana nearly 20 seasons ago. Ill just leave it at that.

This we can agree on.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9416461)
And that's where we disagree.

For 4 years, Trent Green was great. Granted, I'd love to get 10 years of that, but to just expect it and say anything less is crap is going to make you a miserable sports fan.

I'd trade this year's entire draft for 10 years like the 4 we got from Trent Green. And if you really look at what Green was doing in relation to his peers over that time, you'd be insane not to do the same.

So if that's the case, isn't poo-pooing Trent Green's performance here pretty damn ignorant?

I don't think I am poo pooing his performance any more than some are taking it the other way. Time has a way of softening the undesirable things, and the sweet memories get sweeter.

I doubt anyone was much more pissed than I when Gaethers took him out, but to say he was anymore than a good QB is just not in the cards for me.

I want a great QB on this team, and don't want to see them give up more picks in any round for another recycle. Maybe that is just me. I am dug in after 43 years of futility.

htismaqe 02-19-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9416426)
See, that stuff doesn't bother me. If the Chiefs win and win in the playoffs, I couldn't care less how the QB was acquired.

Now, if the Chiefs need a QB and deliberately pass on highly rated guy, that's a different story. But if Matt Flynn or Nick Foles or Alex Smith won a Super Bowl as a Chiefs, I'd be thrilled.

I know you and I differ on this but the reason I care about how we acquire the QB is because I believe it is a factor on whether or not we can win in the first place.

The teams that are winning and winning regularly have drafted and developed their own guys.

In the 30 years or so I've been a fan, I've seen the Matt Flynn/Nick Foles/Alex Smith's come through KC. Over and over and over. I know how the story ends.

Is it completely rational or objective? No. If I were capable of looking at this in a 100% rational manner, I would have given up on this crap franchise YEARS ago.

htismaqe 02-19-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9416488)
I'm somewhat starting to question if some of you actually remember Trent playing in KC, other than 2001.

The question is whether or not you remember CHRIS THOMAS playing in KC in 2001. :D

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9416503)
The question is whether or not you remember CHRIS THOMAS playing in KC in 2001. :D

He knows the system, bro.

Bowser 02-19-2013 05:22 PM

I don't think it's a stretch by any means to say that Trent Green was the second best QB this team has ever seen behind Len. And yes, that does include Montana.

If only we would have had ANY modicum of defense from 2002-2005....

htismaqe 02-19-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9416505)
He knows the system, bro.

He's no Dexter McCluster though.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-19-2013 05:51 PM

Trent Green was a great QB in between the 20s. In the red zone, he was not.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9416598)
Trent Green was a great QB in between the 20s. In the red zone, he was not.

And he sucked at improvisation.

Which is why when the OL went, he did.

Titty Meat 02-19-2013 06:07 PM

I dont think Alex Smith is close to what Trent Green was.

Titty Meat 02-19-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9416608)
And he sucked at improvisation.

Which is why when the OL went, he did.

Im not sure thats fair to say. His melon was scrambled the first game of 2006 and never was the same again.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9416662)
Im not sure thats fair to say. His melon was scrambled the first game of 2006 and never was the same again.

Trent's decline started the year prior.

It wasn't obvious but he was slightly less effective when Roaf missed games that year.

He was always awful at throwing on the run, and if he had to get outside the pocket and make a play, good luck with that shit.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-19-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9414903)
After Luck, RGIII, and Wilson, every draft is going to look like shit.


**** all of them. If last year's draft never happened, this QB class looks similar to most classes.

this. And its the reason these asshat "experts" should be taken with much grain of salt.
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HotCarl 02-19-2013 08:25 PM

You can't really argue that this is the weakest QB class in a long time. The only reason these QBs will go in the first is that the league is so QB-centric now.

beach tribe 02-19-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9416503)
The question is whether or not you remember CHRIS THOMAS playing in KC in 2001. :D

Get it while it's HOT

http://shop.kcchiefs.com/Chris-Thoma...901866_PD.html


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