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cosmo20002 03-25-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9528961)
Feel free to post anything racist I have posted on this you phony little **** LMAO

You accused ME of being racist because I believe a business open to the public should not be allowed to refuse service to a black person. I don't feel like researching your posts, so for now I'm content to simply label you a ****ing moron and leave it at that.

RNR 03-25-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9528974)
You accused ME of being racist because I believe a business open to the public should not be allowed to refuse service to a black person. I don't feel like researching your posts, so for now I'm content to simply label you a ****ing moron and leave it at that.

That is a compliment coming from a disingenuous shitbag like you~

BucEyedPea 03-25-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9528965)
I know it's not an amendment. However, they are laws that have been ruled Constitutional by the Supreme Court. Deal with it. And yes, the other party has civil rights as well. I'm glad Christians are allowed to sit next to me in a restaurant.

Same with religious freedom—what this country was founded on. Deal with it.

Now link me to laws under the Civil Rights Act being ruled Constitutional—not that I really think the SC is always right, especially after the 1930's. The Civil Rights Act is based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce.
The interstate commerce clause was to create a free trade zone among the states.

RNR 03-25-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9528974)
You accused ME of being racist because I believe a business open to the public should not be allowed to refuse service to a black person. I don't feel like researching your posts, so for now I'm content to simply label you a ****ing moron and leave it at that.

By the way **** for brains all my posts in this thread are still on the first page LMAO

BucEyedPea 03-25-2013 04:40 PM

Oh and KChiefer, no govt body including the SC is capable of restraining its own powers. They always take more.

KChiefer 03-25-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9528984)
Same with religious freedom—what this country was founded on. Deal with it.

Now link me to laws under the Civil Rights Act being ruled Constitutional—not that I really think the SC is always right, especially after the 1930's.

Religious freedom allows one to practice their religion, not discriminate. I'm not linking every time the Civil Rights Act has been upheld by the SC. Just know that if using personal belief as an excuse to discriminate would go over well in the SC, the CRA would have been struck down years ago.

BucEyedPea 03-25-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9528992)
Religious freedom allows one to practice their religion, not discriminate.

Says who?

What if that photographer was practicing their religion here? They were. Freedom of conscience is freedom of conscience.

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I'm not linking every time the Civil Rights Act has been upheld by the SC. Just know that if using personal belief as an excuse to discriminate would go over well in the SC, the CRA would have been struck down years ago.
I don't need to make an appeal to authority on this as you are. The SC does engage in activism and can make errors.

Everyone discriminates...including you. Life would be insane if we were unable to differentiate and make choices. Religions by their very nature are discriminatory...especially on values and choices made on those values.

The left are fascists when they force a photographer to take the photo of someone. It is a massive violation of the other's rights. Especially when there's probably a large number of photographers who are willing to do the photoshoot. There's no damages here. This is nothing more than an ideological agenda here.

mr. tegu 03-25-2013 04:45 PM

I will never understand why anyone cares if someone else is gay and if they want to get married. Considering the 50% divorce rate, I would say preserving the sanctity of marriage is off the table. People get way too worked up about things they never had any business knowing about in the first place.

BucEyedPea 03-25-2013 04:50 PM

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“Because the Constitution prohibits the state from forcing unwilling artists to promote a message they disagree with, we will certainly appeal this decision to the New Mexico Supreme Court.”
A corollary of the freedom of speech is to not speak or support a message. So there's more than one violation of fundamental natural rights here.

In the meantime, where are those cases KChiefer? Afterall, you act as if there's so many of them, related to a private person, post 1964.

LiveSteam 03-25-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9529001)
I will never understand why anyone cares if someone else is gay and if they want to get married. Considering the 50% divorce rate, I would say preserving the sanctity of marriage is off the table. People get way too worked up about things they never had any business knowing about in the first place.

Would you like to attend a Klan meeting Im hosting ?

BucEyedPea 03-25-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9529001)
I will never understand why anyone cares if someone else is gay and if they want to get married. Considering the 50% divorce rate, I would say preserving the sanctity of marriage is off the table. People get way too worked up about things they never had any business knowing about in the first place.

This isn't exactly about gay marriage per se though. People should be free to believe as they want about it in a free country. Not having any business knowing about this, doesn't apply when the govt is forcing people to do something against their moral code. Also, those getting worked up about this topic are those who do support gay marriage. For those looking for irony this is it.

mr. tegu 03-25-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9529009)
Would you like to attend a Klan meeting Im hosting ?

I am Catholic so that is probably not a good idea.

Brock 03-25-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9528931)
I understand what he said and that it sounded like he wanted to reserve his right to refuse service on the basis of, for example, race. I figured the Klan covered several of the likely bases.

I want the right to refuse service to any person for any reason.

LiveSteam 03-25-2013 04:53 PM

Their will be fish & chips at my rally

mr. tegu 03-25-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9529014)
This isn't exactly about gay marriage per se though. People should be free to believe as they want about it in a free country. Also, those getting worked up about this topic are those who do support gay marriage. For those looking for irony this is it.

I was just kind of posting in general. And on this topic specifically, I would say both sides are worked up.

"You can't refuse them because of their sexual orientation!"

"They don't have to serve them because it is against their religion!"


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