WR - Who do you keep?
 

Assuming all the WR expectations come to fruition, meaning Ross/Ross/James show out in camp/PS as expected

We know Toney, Moore, MVS and Rice are all locks - all things being equal who do you keep for the final 2 spots (assuming we only carry 6 WR) or would you push for 7 WRs and short another position such as RB or TE?

Remember this is all assuming that the above WRs all meet the expectations of the Chiefs

Watson will probably stick with all he does from ST's and such.

I figure Richie James fits in pretty well as well.

So it comes to that last spot for me

I forgot to add Watson to the poll - that guy is sneaky under the radar.

I agree. I'd like to keep Justyn Ross, but I'm a big fan of 4 TEs.

I don't think Richie James is going anywhere - that's your PR. I don't really see the Ross's making the 53, but I think Justyn could make the PS.

Also possible that the chiefs getting rid of a FB makes it easier to keep one extra guy at WR or TE.

No way they give up on Skyy yet.

I'll go with cut one of the Ross just to clean up the confusion.

Anybody who selects trading Skyy Moore should be traded from CP to the the Raiders forum.

Either Ross will probably make it to the practice squad if it comes to that

Keep Justyn Ross if he shows he’s fully healthy and worth a roster spot.
Cut John Ross.
Keep James.

Toney
MVS
Moore
Rice
James
Ross

Keep Watson if you want 7 WRs.

Didn’t Watson sign a 2 year deal? No way he’s not making the roster IMO.

This seems like the path of least resistance

Get rid of Justyn, keep John for now. At least he's actually done something in the NFL, and is fast AF.

With Rice here now, what does Justyn Ross bring that you don't have?

Atleast the other Ross has speed

Watson and James are both making the final roster unless they get hurt in preseason.

This. But Justyn is the current love affair so it wont be seen that way.

- Toney
- MVS
- Skyy
- Rice
- James
- Watson

If we carry 7 WR's and keep one of the Ross's, who gets cut from one of the other position groups?

Yes - he is just so sneaky under the radar I forgot about him

What if both ross just share one jersey and swap out behind the gatorade cooler?

It's an either or option.

If he's healthy and actually looks competent? Another talented WR to add to the WR room. Why did people want Hyatt when we already have MVS?

If Ross shows that he's at least good at what he does, then it doesn't hurt this team to have another option along with Rice.

These things seem to work themselves out. Someone will get hurt and go on the IR. If not all of those guys are pretty established. If one or both of the Ross's is better in the preseason it is also pretty easy to deal one of those guys. Probably James or Watson, not like those contracts had a lot of years nor were over priced.

Chiefs also seem to open up a roster spot by not carrying a fullback and plan on using TE's for those play packages.

I think Justyn Ross has about a .5% chance of making the team, he probably sits on the PS for a year and gets another look next year after MVS is gone.

John Ross has about a 5% chance of making the team and the only reason I give him that is because his one skill is something the rest of the guys don't have, pure elite, world class speed.

And for the money thing this team ate money last year to cut Jermaine Carter after signing him.

It would either be RB or TE

We're not keeping a FB, so we've got an extra roster spot to work with.

The big question is if they do anything in preseason will they be able to stash them on the practice squad. Lot of rebuilding teams that should be looking to take a shot with young talented guys.

This makes me happy. I like Burton and didn't necessarily want to see him gone, but I never understood why they didn't use Blake Bell in that role. We use him for QB sneaks, we could use him as a lead blocker for the RBs (not that we did that much outside of that throwback sweep play in the Superbowl, but you get what I'm saying).

With this news, I'd say Justyn Ross likely has an early hold on the #7 spot. I'm assuming he'd be a better special teams player than John Ross, though.

If you don't see Justyn Ross in PS games that'd be why...a guy like John Ross is well known around the league and honestly no one is running to steal him.

MVS is in his last year though and will need replaced.

Rice kinda makes Ross redundant unless he's just too good to let go.

Ross is 6'4 Rice is 6' I'd like to think they aren't exactly the same thing.

We just not drafting people next offseason?

MVS signed a three year deal last year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...antling-25275/

His cap number balloons after this year, it was designed to be a 2 year deal.

Unless MVS blows up this year...he's not worth that $14 million in the last year of his deal.

Gonna win the same way and fill the same roll. Unless they're gonna restructure the offense and let Ross do more of the Kelce stuff.

What's that have **** to do with any of this?

You act like MVS has to be replaced right this second.

MVS is signed through 2024. I like carrying 4 TEs, so let 1 of them be a H-back.

Rookie WR's aren't exactly known for blowing a hole in the league with this system, right?

So you have a high end speed first round WR (or 2nd) ease his way in, then let MVS go and he's ready to step right in.

Or atleast that was some people's thought process with regards to Hyatt I believe.

The most likely thing that happens is

MVS
Moore
Toney
Rice
James
Watson

WR is all about stacking talent at this point. So if you see Ross as doing the same thing that Rice can do (which I don't)...then you keep him regardless because he's talented.

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You can't evaluate John Ross at an OTA, he ran the fastest 40 ever at the combine so when everyone is in shorts basically doing 7 on 7 yes he is going to look like a god.

God...I hate seeing that idiot's stupid ****ing face.

Watson's my first cut if anyone else forces themselves onto the roster.

As to the odds of that? Lordy folks, it's OTAs. We're a loooooooong ways away from needing to make that decision. John Ross will probably start getting wrecked off the line as soon as pads come on. Justyn Ross will probably get hurt the first time someone touches him.

Nothing is to be learned right now apart from how hard someone like Rashee Rice studied the playbook over the last 6 weeks or so. Which, to be frank, means precisely **** all.

I meant Justyn Ross being brought up unprompted by Andy

yessir - but we needed to talk about something so why not be all hypo- thetical and put on our thinkin caps PBJ

Don't gatekeep us DJLN. Grow up.

Keep them all.

NFL's first 7 WR play. My body is ready.

He hurt my brain

I'm surprised this is even a question. Richie James is making this team. He may even be our #2 WR. Ross or Ross is really really going to have to surprise to be in the mix.

MVS
James
Toney
Moore
Rice
Watson

Richie James.

Yeah that's kind of unusual and seems like a very positive sign.

Jones?

Honestly, I just thrilled with the depth. Hopefully, whoever doesn't make it, we can stash on the PS. Guys will get hurt and miss games and I'd like to have other guys ready to go.

Andy seems high on Justyn Ross, so that signals something to me. Should he flash during preseason, I don't know if you can sneak him on the PS. The absence of a FB also tells me we're going with more 3 TE sets. Use 1 of them to be a H-back/safety valve. As I look at our top 4 TEs, you don't want Kelce in that role too often and I don't see either Gray or Fortson as viable candidates. That leaves Bell. The other option would be so say goodbye to Fortson, given his age and injury background and look at Blanton.

the best part would be Blake Bell lining up as a fullback behind Patrick, and then at the last second shifting up to take the snap and sneak it.

Fortson isn't going anywhere.

Also, Andy specifically said that Noah Gray will be handling some of the FB duties.

if I'm reading this right, and I like to think that I am, MVS is on this team unless traded. Weirdly, to cut him would cost 10M in dead cap and save less than $1M in cash.

HOWEVER.... A lot of that dead cap is actually a guaranteed salary for the year. If you traded him, the new team would take on his salary, and you're on the hook for the difference, which would save you a little over $9M on the cap.

I don't think it's likely, but trading MVS is absolutely on the table in terms of his contract numbers.

I'm not saying he is, I'd like to see him succeed. But 6'4" 226 lbs doesn't scream H-back, which was my point.

Close your mouth you bald-headed twat

Cut the brokedick Justyn Ross.

I don't think I can handle another offseason of hype for this dude catching a 3 yard slant on video.

I’d keep 7 and drop Watson in that scenario.

Having too many WRs is a good thing.

You plan to keep them all, but things will happen to prevent that. Someone is going to be NOT available. We have several WRs that have had health concerns in the past. There will be at least one WR on IR sometime during the season.

If KC wants to keep Toney, MVS, Moore, Rice, James, Ross, Ross, and Watson on the opening season 53-man roster, they won't happen, but they will keep the best 6.

Odds would be Toney, MVS, Moore, Rice, James, and Watson, but if Justyn Ross or John Ross really shine, the Chiefs might try to trade one or two of their veteran WRs (MVS (save $9,000,000),James (save $940,000), or Watson (save $1,100,000))

this is what I'm thinking will happen. Unless one of the Ross's is absolutely dominating training camp and preseason. Then it would have to be Watson to get cut more than likely.

Cutting Richie James would cost $552,500 in dead money.

Cutting Justin Watson would cost $1,230,000 in dead money

Exactly, which is why neither gets cut.

Jim Hines 1970 Chiefs first man to break sub 10 second 100-meter sprint Mexico Olympics. Was wide open 5 yards all the time on the deep bomb. Lenny would lay right in his hands and he would Barnum and Bailey juggle it and drop. This is what these Ross's remind me of. Hard to really make any conclusion as we don't see what they are doing in OTA's.

The Chiefs wipe their ass with 1.2M and 500k...but I dont think either get cut.