Jeffrey Flanagan: King Carl chimes in again on Reid hiring...
 

http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/0...13&feedID=5117

Carl pretty much telling like it is...

"Obviously I don't want to see what Lamar Hunt and I built here for 20 years go downhill"


ROFL you are like 15 years too late there idiot

Carl loved the banners, he knows it.

And Carl regurgitates the "fans cheering an injury line." He and Pioli can still go **** themselves.

I really don't give a shit what Carl thinks about the Chiefs anymore. Why does the KC media feel the need to keep seeking out his opinion?

"The organization was in worse shape back then".
True king Carl, a legend in his own mind

Carl failed here. Completely. Why is his opinion on how we should go about or are going about things valued?

Do Lions reporters call Matt Millen for his take every time they make a hire?

Love it.

no shit -- that dude will cover his own ass after he's buried 6 feet under

You're ****ing stupid.

The Chiefs had been to the playoffs ONE TIME 15 years prior to Carl Peterson's arrival.

I'd say that qualifies for being in worse shape than now, Dumbass.

And with each successive post, you reveal that you're dumber than ****.

Carl helped build the franchise into what it was in the 90's and early 2000's. He did fine.

If Peterson had left in 2005, with Dick Vermeil, he'd be a hero.

Unfortunately, he outstayed his welcome. But that shouldn't negate his work from 1989-2005.

Carl was better than many give him credit for.

TOLD YOU ROBOCARL WAS IN ON THIS

http://i.imgur.com/loMDz.gif

'89-'97 maybe. 1998-2005 weren't anything to write home about. I'd contend that what we're seeing now is just a continuation of the spiral Peterson started in the late '90s. It's in some ways reminiscent of the current economy, with prior (mis-)management from years ago causing lots of problems, the savior management brought in 4 years ago unable to fix them, due in no small part to flaws of their own. No re-election for Pioli though.

It was time to leave, and the Chiefs didnt get to the superbowl, but we did win 2nd most games in the NFL during the decade of the 90's and the Loyalty and excitement of the fanbase was second to none when he was here. I think he deserves a little more credit than that.

The combo of Carl and Vermeil wrecked this franchise. Had the former left after '05, he'd still be regarded as the POS that he is. Had he left after Gunther, his legacy would be far more positive.

It's too bad Vermeil wasn't 10 years younger.

I think they could have gotten it done together.

:(

The Vermeil years was all go for broke. It didn't work and Herm took the bullet for it by going young.


Where we really ****ed up was the Pioli regime.

Carl gave us some of the best memories in Chiefs history. He DID have success, just like Reid in Philly. Time catches them all...

yep. Carl's run was over right about then, but he thought he could mortgage the future of the team without neg effects. he was very very wrong about that.

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****stick took most of my hate away from Carl.

Carl overstayed his welcome for sure but he also is the man responsible for 80% of our current pro-bowlers.

I thought my hate for Carl was a strong as it could be, then shitstain and Kasl rolled into town and took us all to another level. If anything Fat Scott made me appreciate what Carl did in his tenure even more.

No shit. I seriously thought Herm had brought as bad of football as was possible for KC. I thought that was the low.

Nope. There was a dead cat bounce and then on down we went.

This place was ****ing ELATED when Carl was ousted. But we had no mother****ing clue how bad it could be. And it was bad. Herm was fail. King Carl had ****ed up all kind of player acquisitions, and ****her twice? Really? But it was miles better than this year's shitstorm.

Pioli put forth a MONUMENTAL effort to make it that shitty.

Oh yeah he did. He was snickering til he shit in his depends.

You gotta respect Carl though in a sense....he made football in this town matter again..there wouldn't be any Chiefsplanet if it weren't for him and the success w/ Marty. He certainly worn out his welcome and we never should have hired Herm Edwards, as Carl should have gone out the door w/ DV. But he loved what he did and got paid a lot of money in a very secure job (until Lamar's death). I don't think any of us would pass that up.

It's also sad that Scott Pioli was such a bad ****ing hire that it almost makes me miss the good ol days of Carl Peterson.

A hero? Heroes lead their franchises to playoff victories.

He's still a stupid mother****er who hired Gunter and fired him over the internet, drafted LJ, thought just bringing in Gunter for DC was enough for one offseason, can't draft worth a SHIT unless a coach with decent prior success helped him and never wanted to draft a QB in the first round because he was too scared.

**** King Carl.

0 playoff wins his last 15 yrs here.

His first few yrs here were a good start that he failed to build on and reach the ultimate goal. And from '98 on.....well frankly his regime sucked hind teet.

Add to that he's an arrogant douchebag which only works if you win more.

That's the press. Finding some one who has been in that position thinking it is almost the same.

It's worse on political matters. STFU

Flanagan was still an OK person from what I read.

Yeah he was a ****ing idiot for drafting a RB to replace one that was getting up there in age and had a gimp hip. As much as a **** LJ was, he was a damn good RB for a few seasons and this entire team leaned on him in 2006 while we had Damon ****ing Huard as a QB.

But I will agree, that he should have left after 2005. The entire philosophy w/ the DV hire was that this was DV's last go around...he was old but still had a little spark of coaching left. Carl went all out to trade away draft picks and assemble a team that could win NOW. We came somewhat close in 2003. But Carl did everything the coaches wanted him to do...he went out and got players the coaches wanted..and that's all you could have asked for.

Look at is this way....had he left in 2005, he would have left the cupboard bare completely ...no Charles or any of that 2008 draft which could now with a good coaching staff and HC (hopefully an answer at QB) will make this team a winner

Carl was a failure because he never addressed the QB position other than signing retreads from other teams. Pioli never addressed any position on the team period. Signed dumb**** players in FA and drafted for shit.

Atleast Carl and his coaches drafted well to an extent.

That speaks to our unfortunate history more than it does his success.

Easily his biggest failing.

DUDE THEY WERE TEXTING

HUNT WAS LIKE SUP CARL, FIRED PIOLI

CARL WAS ALL I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLOLLAR

Not at all like Reid. Only 3 playoff wins vs 10. Plus, no SB.

****ing dumb.

He drafted Mike Elkins in his first year in the second round. He drafted Matt Blundin in the second round. He drafted Stanford QB Steve Stenstrom in the 4th round, only to have him snaked by the Bears. He drafted Croyle in the third.

Meanwhile, he brought in Dave Kreig, Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Rich Gannon and Trent Green.

Drafting a QB was an inexact science from 1920 - 2010. There weren't 10 million draft "Guru's" or "film" on every kid going back to 5th grade. It was a different world.

Peterson completely transformed a disenchanted fan base and made the Chiefs experience what it is today. Without him, they'd be gone from KC.

Carl didnt fail here. He did just the opposite

He and Marty rebuilt this franchise/fan base.

He made us relevant in the NFL, something we havent been since he left.

From 1987 Hudson to 2007 Croyle that actually started a game. I would say that's signing retreads from other teams.
You're also leaving out Deberg, Huard and Thigpen.

Because this fan base embraces losers. See qbs since ever. Loser franchise loser fanbase

Elkins, Blundin and Stenstrom never started a ****ing game for KC. Never were allowed to develop under Peterson. Why? Because Carl loved him some veteran QB's.

Shut the **** up, Dumbass

Why? It's an undeniable fact genius.

The only reason we're so pissed off is because Carl gave us something cool and we want it back.

Wrong.

Peterson and Schottenheimer HATED DeBerg. He was a partier and a womanizer that didn't love football. They drafted Elkins with the hope that he'd be a starter. Unfortunately, that didn't work out.

So, they signed Dave Krieg and kicked DeBerg to the curb. Unfortunately, Krieg was done. But at least he drafted Matt Blundin in 1992, who went something like 238 attempts without an interception. Marty compared him to Bernie Kosar (pre-pornstar daughter). Blundin failed to learn under Krieg and traded for Joe Montana.

After that failed, Carl did the "next best thing" and signed Steve Bono and Rich Gannon, who had been out of football for a year. After they both failed, he interviewed EVERY available starting QB and chose Elvis Grbac.

So, I just don't want to hear this shit that Peterson didn't "try". He tried his ass off but he just never hit on the right guy.

Interesting Deberg story.

Why did he play with a broken pinky if he didn't love football?

ROFL Elkins had all but what, 2 attempts. Blundin had what 8 pass attempts with KC? Hmm

I am going to give Carl his due credit. He and Marty put the fans into the Arrowhead. People here forget that Carl was the hot GM after he rode into town. He entertained us. Brought in Joe Montana, Marcus Allen, some good free agents. He had his good moments. The team won lots of games and took its chances in the playoffs. Too bad it didn't work out. He just stayed too long.

Well hey, atleast he drafted them right?

Yeah, you're right. Elkins and Blundins would have been superstars elsewhere.

:facepalm:

Whatever. ****ing stupid

Just from memory, but i think Aaron Rodgers was the only 1st round QB that Peterson ever passed on that turned out to be something special. Most of the time we were picking in that 15-30 range where its alot harder to find gifted QBs.

I dont like Peterson overall, but ive acknowledged many times his ability to turn the franchise around. He was certainly far better than Piolli.

That was the story on DeBerg: He'd apply himself just enough to get by but never fully committed.

This guy bounced around from franchise to franchise to franchise for four DECADES. He certainly had talent, ideal size, football smarts, etc.

He just loved "The Life" more than he loved football.

Get the **** out, n00b.

There's enough dumbass mother****ers here already.

Eat my dick lint

LMAO

From 1989 to 2005, the Chiefs had exactly FOUR losing seasons out of SEVENTEEN: 1998, 2000, 2001 AND 2004.

7-9, 7-9, 6-10, 7-9. He drafted Hall of Famers Derrick Thomas, Will Shields and Tony Gonzalez along the way (and traded for HOFer Joe Montana and signed HOFer Marcus Allen).

Yeah, he was awful.

You're the dumb mother****er trying to save face.

Deberg doesn't like anything judging from his posts here. Like, every post.

**** you

I'll your mom do that. She's told me she's way into it.

Trying to go all Alpha on me Dane? Eat my shit.

Again, I'll leave that to your Mom.

She's way into it.

:shake: Preschool disses? I see.

LJ had a HOF LT and LG along with the best blocking FB, pair of TE's and some guy named Brian Waters blocking for him. His stats are so skewed.

And we were never close to going to the SB in 2003. Even if we did somehow manage to beat Indy, we would have been RAPED up in New England by Romeo and his defense that had star players everywhere.

**** you carl and herm i hope you both drink antifreeze while while running into a aids tree while it on fire.

Actually, they had a Hall of Fame LT, a Pro Bowl LG, a Pro Bowl C, a Hall of Fame RG and an All Pro RT. And they worked together for years in consecutive starts.

Might have been the best offensive line in the history of the NFL.

And then add to it Richardson and Dunn.

**** me blocking silly.

I miss those days.

And, yet, not a single playoff win.

Three things win you playoff games:

1. Top Ten QB
2. Very good Rush End
3. Very good blind side protector

What are the 2013 Chiefs missing?

I guess it depends what your goals are

I don't consider him a failure b/c we didn't win a Super Bowl in and of itself. From '98 on we were mostly mediocre and went 15 years w/o a playoff win under his watch. W/O looking any of it up I am guessing the majority of the league won playoff game(s) during that stretch.

Nobody's comparing him to the incompetent SP that was just run out of town but that doesn't mean he was a success either. That's also not to say he never did anything right. But at the end of the day the results were not up to snuff.

Uhh, Another LT so we can slide Albert to guard and then slide Winston to RG ala Hughes on 610 today?


ROFL, that was some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. It doesn't beat the girl I knew who thought Vermont was in Canada but is definitely in the top 10.

610 has a bunch of morons on there.

Earlier this week Danny Parkins said he would trade the 1st overall pick to Dallas for Tony Romo.

:facepalm:

Wait.


Seriously?


JFC, how the **** did he graduate college?
LMAO

Yep. It's in the Danan Hughes and Hour 4 podcast here.

http://www.610sports.com/pages/10086021.php?

I get that Danny Parkins is a huge Cowboys fan, but JFC man.

For 5 minutes he tried saying how Tony Romo was a top 10 QB just because he was a top 10 passer, QB rating blah blah blah. LMAO

Well, I guess I need to send out some early christmas presents of bleach.


Mother of god, that is ****ing dumb. LMAO

610 kinda sucks now that nick wright left town and took his curse with him.

102.5 the fan might put them off the air this year.

This is the first period in my life where I've seriously considered getting sat. radio but I'm worried I'm just going to hear more morons. :(

If you get sat. radio try to go back in time and listen to nfl radio so you can hear Pat Kirwan(spelling) talk about how Matt Cassel is a good QB.

If I need to vomit immediately on the road, I will definitely do it. LMAO

It'll do the trick for sure.