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Bowser 05-27-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9713485)
Nothing is actually new. Its all just rehash, cheap reversals, and fan service. IMO.

The way I'm looking at it is that it is still the Trek Universe with all the pieces in place, but they are free to use any/all of it to their liking due to the continuum shift. A person could say that they are being lazy with their story telling while another could say that they are pretty smart for taking an established story, revamping it, and looking "original" in that sense? I mean, when we all heard that Khan was the protagonist, most of us thought of the Genesis story, not pre Space Seed. In that regard, it WAS original story telling, imho (but like I said, the Kirk/Spock reversal and the Khan scream were corny. I'll give you the "cheap reversals" point there).

Eh, maybe it's just the way I see it because I want to like the movie, nothing more.

AphexPhin 05-28-2013 01:33 AM

while I mildly enjoyed the first one, didnt really enjoy this one at all except for the villain who is also good as Sherlock Holmes.

And **** JJ Abrams. How does this asshole get to direct both Star Trek AND Star Wars?! No one man should have all that power imo. He will **** it up for sure. Hope I'm wrong but if the Star Trek sequel is any indication, the Star Wars reboot is gonna blow.

Tribal Warfare 05-28-2013 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9713508)
The way I'm looking at it is that it is still the Trek Universe with all the pieces in place, but they are free to use any/all of it to their liking due to the continuum shift. A person could say that they are being lazy with their story telling while another could say that they are pretty smart for taking an established story, revamping it, and looking "original" in that sense? I mean, when we all heard that Khan was the antagonist, most of us thought of the Genesis story, not pre Space Seed. In that regard, it WAS original story telling, imho (but like I said, the Kirk/Spock reversal and the Khan scream were corny. I'll give you the "cheap reversals" point there).

Eh, maybe it's just the way I see it because I want to like the movie, nothing more.

FYP

AphexPhin 05-28-2013 01:41 AM

big time dissapointment. Oh well. The first one was pretty decent but this one sucked besides the Khan/Spock fight which I thought was well done.

And I said this in another thread but **** JJ Abrams. No one man should have all that power. You mean to tell me Hollywood couldnt find another ahole to direct the Star Wars reboot?! Come on man.

Braincase 05-28-2013 10:39 AM

One question - What kind of name is Benedict Cumberbatch? Sounds like the guy ought to be teaching Elementary Hygiene class at Hogwarts.

underEJ 05-28-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AphexPhin (Post 9713606)
big time dissapointment. Oh well. The first one was pretty decent but this one sucked besides the Khan/Spock fight which I thought was well done.

And I said this in another thread but **** JJ Abrams. No one man should have all that power. You mean to tell me Hollywood couldnt find another ahole to direct the Star Wars reboot?! Come on man.

When your head is up your ass, you can only see one asshole at a time?

DaneMcCloud 05-28-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AphexPhin (Post 9713600)
while I mildly enjoyed the first one, didnt really enjoy this one at all except for the villain who is also good as Sherlock Holmes.

And **** JJ Abrams. How does this asshole get to direct both Star Trek AND Star Wars?! No one man should have all that power imo. He will **** it up for sure. Hope I'm wrong but if the Star Trek sequel is any indication, the Star Wars reboot is gonna blow.

I know of another director that will be helming a Star Wars feature but he's tied up with a Pixar release (wink, wink).

Disney will be releasing a new Star Wars film every year for the foreseeable future.

J.J. Abrams is just the first to be announced.

Bowser 05-28-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9713602)
FYP

Yeah, that

keg in kc 05-28-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9714278)
I know of another director that will be helming a Star Wars feature but he's tied up with a Pixar release (wink, wink).

Disney will be releasing a new Star Wars film every year for the foreseeable future.

J.J. Abrams is just the first to be announced.

I know they wanted Brad Bird to do Episode 7, but he's tied up with Tomorrowland (which isn't Pixar). Andrew Stanton?

DaneMcCloud 05-28-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9714321)
I know they wanted Brad Bird to do Episode 7, but he's tied up with Tomorrowland (which isn't Pixar). Andrew Stanton?

Take it for what it's worth (and that this point, things could change) but I was told on Saturday by a very good source that A.S. has already begun work on a new Star Wars entry.

I don't know about any other details but as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I thought he did a magnificent job with John Carter, especially given the source material.

I'm more excited about him than Abrams, who's shown me very little as a "human" director.

keg in kc 05-28-2013 01:14 PM

He's a name that makes some sense. Give him a chance to recoup his losses from John Carter.

(Everything about the marketing of that movie was wrong, btw, starting with calling it "John Carter")

Molitoth 05-28-2013 01:14 PM

I've NEVER watched any Star Trek my entire life. Trekkies would keeel me, I know.

But, I've just started going back and watching all of the movies in order. (Sorry, not doing the episodes...)

I thought the first movies plot was great! The second one, Wrath of Khan was so-so, and the Search for Spok was a little better. I'm getting ready to watch IV....

DaneMcCloud 05-28-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9714351)
He's a name that makes some sense. Give him a chance to recoup his losses from John Carter.

(Everything about the marketing of that movie was wrong, btw, starting with calling it "John Carter")

His biggest strength, IMO, was that the CGI alien/human interaction was believable. Granted, it's nice to have voice actors like Willem DaFoe, Samantha Morton and Thomas Haden Church, but that's also the reason why I think he'd be a great choice for Star Wars because he knows how to "humanize" characters, much like he did in Wall-E.

Unlike, ahem, J.J. Abrams (or George Lucas for that matter).

keg in kc 05-28-2013 02:59 PM

I think they need to do as much practical as possible, and lean as much as possible towards the art style of the original trilogy. The look of the prequels turned me off almost as much as the script, performance and direction.

Deberg_1990 05-28-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9714364)
His biggest strength, IMO, was that the CGI alien/human interaction was believable. Granted, it's nice to have voice actors like Willem DaFoe, Samantha Morton and Thomas Haden Church, but that's also the reason why I think he'd be a great choice for Star Wars because he knows how to "humanize" characters, much like he did in Wall-E.

Unlike, ahem, J.J. Abrams (or George Lucas for that matter).

They should bring in your buddy Turtletaub to direct one. He was part of the Disney stable for awhile.


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