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Chiefs=Good 03-09-2010 10:13 PM

The homerism is strong in this one..........

Quesadilla Joe 03-10-2010 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6591300)
No, I wouldn't.

Thomas Jones will preserve Jamal Charles. Jamal Williams was declining before his injury.

I know Thomas Jones will do exactly what we think he will do. He will lead, he will pass block and he will be an excellent goal line back.

What guarantees do you have with Jamal Williams, balls in your mouth?

I knew you would lie.ROFL

Hasn't Mecca taught you anything about positional value? The most important position on any 3/4 team (besides QB) is the NT position.

Jamal Williams still commands double teams and will still own any interior lineman in the NFL one on one. Jamal Williams makes everyone around him better.

Mile High Mania 03-10-2010 05:52 AM

Hell, for the cheap price paid... I'm a little put off that Denver didn't pursue Thomas Jones. Sure, he's 31 and at that point (see LT or any older RB from recent memory) when he can hit the declining wall fast, but damn... that's a great contract and a very nice addition for KC.

Denver's new trio on the DL... I think they're all nice moves and it should strengthen the defense. There's some risk, but there always is...

Miles 03-10-2010 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6591974)
I knew you would lie.ROFL

Hasn't Mecca taught you anything about positional value? The most important position on any 3/4 team (besides QB) is the NT position.

Jamal Williams still commands double teams and will still own any interior lineman in the NFL one on one. Jamal Williams makes everyone around him better.

How can you possibly say that a guy that played one game last year still commands a double team when you have know way of knowing that? And since when is that an achievement for a NT who should often inherently occupy more than one blocker as part of his job.

Quesadilla Joe 03-10-2010 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 6591979)
How can you possibly say that a guy that played one game last year still commands a double team when you have know way of knowing that? And since when is that an achievement for a NT who should often inherently occupy more than one blocker as part of his job.

He had a triceps injury. It's not like he blew out his knee or anything. Jamal Williams is still a monster.

Teams could block Ronald Fields one on one all day and Fields would be neutralized. If you block Jamal Williams one on one that lineman is going to be on his ass and Jamal Williams will be making a play in the backfield. Heck double teams still don't faze The Wall most of the time. I don't remember Denver's DL blowing up many plays and getting in the backfield last year... they will be doing a lot of that this year.

beach tribe 03-10-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6591981)
He had a triceps injury. It's not like he blew out his knee or anything. Jamal Williams is still a monster.

Teams could block Ronald Fields one on one all day and Fields would be neutralized. If you block Jamal Williams one on one that lineman is going to be on his ass and Jamal Williams will be making a play in the backfield. Heck double teams still don't faze The Wall most of the time. I don't remember Denver's DL blowing up many plays and getting in the backfield last year... they will be doing a lot of that this year.

I think he will be a minor upgrade over the complete garbage you had last year. Whoopty do. Big fatties don't do too well after sitting an entire season at that age.

Quesadilla Joe 03-10-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6592045)
I think he will be a minor upgrade over the complete garbage you had last year. Whoopty do. Big fatties don't do too well after sitting an entire season at that age.

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"I can't speak for Josh — I know he's taken a lot of heat, but what he's trying to bring in that locker room is a team, not a bunch of individuals," said Albert Elias, Green's agent. "All this stupid talk about uncapped year and nobody's spending money — Denver's going to be a Super Bowl contender this year. They get it."
http://www.denverpost.com/broncoshea...212?source=rss

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rockymtnchief 03-10-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6592132)

:spock: See post 745. Same shit, different year.

Chiefs=Good 03-10-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6592132)

you were saying the same shit 8 games in last year... How did that work out for you again? :doh!:

The Bad Guy 03-10-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6591974)
I knew you would lie.ROFL

Hasn't Mecca taught you anything about positional value? The most important position on any 3/4 team (besides QB) is the NT position.

Jamal Williams still commands double teams and will still own any interior lineman in the NFL one on one. Jamal Williams makes everyone around him better.

He was declining before his injury. He was horrible the 2nd half of 2008. Horrible. Tell me what guarantees you have with him?

I know what I'll get out of Thomas Jones. You have no idea what a player who missed an entire year due to injury is going to give you.

Nice try though.

Positional value doesn't mean you can just plug an old, injured player in there and expect to get production that he gave to the Chargers about 3 years ago.

The Bad Guy 03-10-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6591981)
He had a triceps injury. It's not like he blew out his knee or anything. Jamal Williams is still a monster.

Teams could block Ronald Fields one on one all day and Fields would be neutralized. If you block Jamal Williams one on one that lineman is going to be on his ass and Jamal Williams will be making a play in the backfield. Heck double teams still don't faze The Wall most of the time. I don't remember Denver's DL blowing up many plays and getting in the backfield last year... they will be doing a lot of that this year.

Triceps injury for a guy who uses his arms to shed blockers on every play.

Mile High Mania 03-10-2010 09:49 AM

Returning from a triceps injury isn't as monumental as someone returning from a major knee injury or something similar. Yes, there's risk, but let's not act like the guy had his leg nearly severed and is mounting a comeback.

They've updgraded their DL which is what they needed. There is much more work to be done.

Quesadilla Joe 03-10-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6592204)
He was declining before his injury. He was horrible the 2nd half of 2008. Horrible. Tell me what guarantees you have with him?

I know what I'll get out of Thomas Jones. You have no idea what a player who missed an entire year due to injury is going to give you.

Nice try though.

Positional value doesn't mean you can just plug an old, injured player in there and expect to get production that he gave to the Chargers about 3 years ago.

2008 was one of his best seasons in the NFL, any Charger fan will tell you that. Look at Pat Williams, he is almost 40 years old and he is still a dominant force. Those big guys can play at a high level for a long time. They rely on brute strength more than athleticism.

I guess you think Pittsburgh resigning the soon to be 33 year old Casey Hampton was a bad move. Actually Jamal Williams contract is virtually the same as Hampton's.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6592214)
Triceps injury for a guy who uses his arms to shed blockers on every play.

That injury happened early in the year and he has had plenty of time to recover. He passed a physical, and obviously Denver wouldn't have signed him if he was in bad shape health-wise.

Bowser 03-14-2010 04:03 PM

:facepalm:

Quesadilla Joe 03-15-2010 08:22 AM

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Nose tackle Jamal Williams, the long-time Charger, signed as part of a defensive line makeover (Denver added Justin Bannan and Jarvis Green,too), and this will be one of the most interesting signings in free agency this year. Williams played at an all-decade level for the Chargers (on my all-decade team, at least) before missing 15 games last year with a torn triceps. Had the Chargers not had so many free agents to sign, they probably would have made Williams more of a focus instead of allowing him to walk when his contract expired.

When he arrived in Denver for a visit last week, he weighed 334 (down about a dozen pounds from his playing weight, impressive for an offseason visit), and the Denver coaches who watched video of him in his last two years saw no sign of decline; neither did independent observers like Aaron Schatz of Footballoutsiders.com. If Williams is right, he'll be the perfect nose to draw double-teams, something Denver didn't have in 2009.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...14/mmqb/1.html

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