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Bugeater 09-07-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886132)
Home Depot also offers paint with primer

It's garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and that stuff doesn't do either of them well.

mikeyis4dcats. 09-07-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8886220)
Yes, this is my problem. I cut out the paper that is torn, but I can't get it much smoother without taking off more paper. I'm using 220 grit. Do I need finer grit? Wet sand it?

you shouldn't be sanding it, just peeling off the layers.

DaneMcCloud 09-07-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8886352)
It's garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and that stuff doesn't do either of them well.

That's good to know. I recently had a paint contractor recommend it but we went with Killz and Dunn-Edwards paint (which was excruciatingly expensive).

Bugeater 09-07-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886817)
That's good to know. I recently had a paint contractor recommend it but we went with Killz and Dunn-Edwards paint (which was excruciatingly expensive).

Yikes, I would be wary of any contractor who uses that stuff. I suppose it's not a bad alternative for do-it-yourselfers or for rental property where the results aren't as important, but as a professional I would never use it again.

SAUTO 09-07-2012 04:46 PM

Good choice Dane.

I had to fire a painter who refused to use anything but paint/primer on my brand new drywall.

Looked like shit
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DaneMcCloud 09-07-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8886841)
Yikes, I would be wary of any contractor who uses that stuff. I suppose it's not a bad alternative for do-it-yourselfers or for rental property where the results aren't as important, but as a professional I would never use it again.

Yeah, we didn't use him.

But JFC, is paint as expensive there as it is here? It was $42 dollars a gallon plus tax. I used to get the same brand for $26 dollars a gallon just a few years ago.

They blamed it on freight costs but really?

DaneMcCloud 09-07-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8886847)
Good choice Dane.

I had to fire a painter who refused to use anything but paint/primer on my brand new drywall.

Looked like shit
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Wow, good to know. Yeah, on new drywall, my experience has been that Killz is the best move.

SAUTO 09-07-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886876)
Yeah, we didn't use him.

But JFC, is paint as expensive there as it is here? It was $42 dollars a gallon plus tax. I used to get the same brand for $26 dollars a gallon just a few years ago.

They blamed it on freight costs but really?

Paint is ****ing expensive
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SAUTO 09-07-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886880)
Wow, good to know. Yeah, on new drywall, my experience has been that Killz is the best move.

Yep we did every inch.

Then painted all of it.

Not me though. I will never touch a paint brush again. professionals.
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Bugeater 09-07-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886876)
Yeah, we didn't use him.

But JFC, is paint as expensive there as it is here? It was $42 dollars a gallon plus tax. I used to get the same brand for $26 dollars a gallon just a few years ago.

They blamed it on freight costs but really?

Oil based paints jumped way up a few years back but water based have been pretty stable, I pay just under $20/gal for a decent eggshell finish interior paint. Semi glosses and exterior paints are a buck or so more a gallon. I still get it at contractor price though.

JoeyChuckles 09-07-2012 05:20 PM

I nominate this thread for Hall of Boring.

DaneMcCloud 09-07-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8886903)
Oil based paints jumped way up a few years back but water based have been pretty stable, I pay just under $20/gal for a decent eggshell finish interior paint. Semi glosses and exterior paints are a buck or so more a gallon. I still get it at contractor price though.

I paid $42 dollars for a gallon of Dunn-Edward satin and that same price for eggshell, which believe it or not, was the discounted contractor rate.

Home Depot paint is about $28 dollars a gallon but the overwhelming majority of paint contractors out here hate it.

Bugeater 09-07-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886880)
Wow, good to know. Yeah, on new drywall, my experience has been that Killz is the best move.

Kilz2 works ok, but I normally use flat finish wall paint, it has better build. Throw about a quart or so of water in a gallon and it spreads out real nice. One coat of that and two coats of eggshell/semi gloss over it and you'll get a great finish.

Bugeater 09-07-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8886906)
I paid $42 dollars for a gallon of Dunn-Edward satin and that same price for eggshell, which believe it or not, was the discounted contractor rate.

Home Depot paint is about $28 dollars a gallon but the overwhelming majority of paint contractors out here hate it.

I've had issues with that Behr crap HD sells, I'm not a fan. I think they also have Glidden paints which I would recommend using if going there. I've never heard of Dunn-Edwards, it's probably a higher-end brand. I haven't had enough customers willing to pay for high end paints to know if they're worth the extra money or not.

DaneMcCloud 09-07-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8886883)
Yep we did every inch.

Then painted all of it.

Not me though. I will never touch a paint brush again. professionals.
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Me, either.

Back in 2004, during the first round of remodeling, I paid $200 to have a 21x21 room painted (for the second time, I might add). My wife didn't like the color she chose, so I called the paint contractor and asked him how much it would cost to repaint.

The answer was $200 dollars.

Well, in my infinite wisdom, I said **** that, bought all the supplies and paint and decided to do it myself.

My wife chose a very deep purple color for our then Entertainment Room (pool table, bar, etc.) in eggshell. For the life of me, I couldn't get the paint rollers from not streaking and looking like a newly mowed yard with lines after each and every roll.

After a few days, more money spent on rollers, etc., I gave up. I'd blown $150 dollars trying to do it myself and decided to call the paint contractor.

Me: Hey Kenny, I'm having issues with streaking. How much to paint the room? There are several coats of paint, so coverage won't be an issue. Just the streaks.

Kenny: $200 dollars!

Bottom line, I spent $350 dollars to paint a room that would have cost $200 if I had left it to the professionals.


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