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Orakpo - 4 sacks on the day, 12 on the year (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=219893)

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6346072)

Cassel still makes the dumbest decisions, he needs to correct that first off

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

But I agree. An offensive coordinator, a QB coach, and an offensive line might go a long way to helping with that.

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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 6346085)

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

they dont want the rookie to continue to struggle and then be destroyed mentally...its probably better he heals up and watches a bit

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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 6346085)

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

You can list off basically 75% of the first round and say we'd be better off had we taken them...

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6345720)

Having a dominant DT sure doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but just because he was the right pick for Washington doesn't mean he would have been the right pick here.
But yeah, I'd like to have that pick back.

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Originally Posted by Hook 'Em Horns12 (Post 6345727)

Its killing me. i really wanted this guy to be drafted by us

Yeah because our horrible coaching would have killed any chance he ever had at becoming a pro-bowler.

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6345740)

More to put another nail in the coffin of the supposed elite talent evaluation capabilities of Scott Pioli. But, iirc Orakpo got slammed by virtually everyone on this forum but me.

As well you should. We reached on TJ, yet several experts rated Orakpo very high while "Chiefsplanet Experts" bashed the guy. I was a big fan of his but fell into the category of those that thought we needed a big NT ala BJ Raji, which might be worse.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6345756)

Far worse to have been me. I originally loved Orakpo as a prospect, started a 500+ post thread about him, and then let the UT stigma and other people talk me out of him.

Stupid, stupid me.

See above.

Raji is having a really nice year actually...

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6346096)

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

Cassel has only lost 3 fumbles. I didn't count fumbles not lost.

Sanchez is averaging more than 1 interception per game played, and fumbles in virtually every game.

Sanchez: 17INT + 3 fumb lost = 20 Turnovers
Cassel: 13 INT + 3 Fumb lost = 16 Turnovers

Orakpo Tyler Dorsey Hali

That is a hell of a front four if you ask me.

That's nice at least Sanchez is a young player with upside our guy should be entering his prime.

If Sanchez is still the same player in 5 years then it's the same...

We should have taken Heyward-Bey.

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 6346156)

We should have taken Heyward-Bey.

As of today our pick is as bad as that pick.

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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 6346140)

Wow what a major difference.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6345756)

Far worse to have been me. I originally loved Orakpo as a prospect, started a 500+ post thread about him, and then let the UT stigma and other people talk me out of him.

Stupid, stupid me.

Did Mecca threaten you with a flaming toilet brush?:D

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6346168)

Wow what a major difference.

Huge.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6346096)

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

Cassel basically is a sophomore quarterback. I don't care how much practice you get, you have to be able to do it in games. And w/ that said - he never started any games until last year, since he was 18. He is going to have a learning curve similar to Sanchez.