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Simply Red 11-08-2011 08:10 PM

-- Duplicating 'Fred & Reds' chili-mac
 
I have to say, I've duplicated it, perfectly.

Ingredients:
1.75 #'s - ground sirloin
1 can of regular 'bush' chili beans
2 Tablespoons of extra virgin Olive Oil
1 large can of store brand Tomato sauce
3 heaping Tablespoons of 'Sugar In The Raw'
1 envelope of 'Frenchs' brand chili seasoning WITH onions (yellow envelope)
2 envelopes of store brand chili seasoning
various olive oil amount for pasta water (the 2 Tablespoons are for the actual chili)





Full Procedure:
I use a large alloy pan pot.
Start by browning entire meat content in ONE Tablespoon of Olive Oil
once meat is 80% brown, start in w/ the envelopes of seasoning - adding as it finalizes it's cooking time. scramble meat well - DO NOT drain, as it's sirloin and very limited on how much fat cooks out.
Add Sugar w/ the last envelope of seasoning, add entire tomato sauce and entire can of beans, again don't drain anything, here.
agitate entire ingredients - excluding the pasta.
drizzle in the other tablespoon of olive oil.

Simmer for at least 25 minutes.

Pasta:
One Box of regular spaghetti pasta - add to Olive Oiled rolling boiling water - cover w/ vent - cook for bottom side of the recommended time - So about 9 minutes.
drain and run cool water over it.

I fold mine all together and freeze via the deep tupperware sealable containers.

It's delicious.

Let me know if you have any questions, this is simple and no culinary break through, for sure; but very tasty and hearty ANNNND economical.

Good luck ya'll.

-Thanks for visiting the thread, food is always popular on here.




http://i43.tinypic.com/2jdqnb7.jpg

Simply Red 11-08-2011 08:28 PM

*BURP

i meant 'Bump'

crispystl 11-08-2011 08:35 PM

How can you duplicate anything when you say " two envelopes store brand chili seasoning"?

Cannibal 11-08-2011 08:38 PM

Sounds good. 3 tablespoons sugar seems excessive.

Fire Me Boy! 11-08-2011 08:40 PM

I'm having a problem with something called "chili mac" that uses "spaghetti". Anyone else having this problem?

FAX 11-08-2011 08:41 PM

What are the vinyl gloves for?

FAX

Simply Red 11-08-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 8093282)
How can you duplicate anything when you say " two envelopes store brand chili seasoning"?

Considering I was tackling a locals' novelty junk food item, it makes sense. I use sauteed beef tenderloin in my own.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 8093290)
Sounds good. 3 tablespoons sugar seems excessive.

Start w/ two - you'd be surprised though, it's definitely not sweet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8093294)
I'm having a problem with something called "chili mac" that uses "spaghetti". Anyone else having this problem?

it's really good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8093301)
What are the vinyl gloves for?

FAX

That part is the secret.

Renegade 11-08-2011 08:47 PM

It is time for your **cough** exam Mr. Fax

LiveSteam 11-08-2011 08:49 PM

OMG!

Great Expectations 11-08-2011 09:18 PM

I'm going to try this, although I think it has been too long since your last trip to Joplin. Instead of chili Mac, most call it spaghetti red.

Simply Red 11-08-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8093406)
I'm going to try this, although I think it has been too long since your last trip to Joplin. Instead of chili Mac, most call it spaghetti red.

OK, indeed - i'd forgotten, but yet knew that. Oh well, it's fabulous. Be sure you use the Frenchs brand with onion, i think that's how i nailed it.

gblowfish 11-08-2011 09:56 PM

I'm glad Fred N Red's was spared by the tornado. It was close, but went just south.

FAX 11-08-2011 10:03 PM

Wouldn't it be easier to just buy some of that stuff?

Take out, I mean?

FAX

Simply Red 11-08-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8093524)
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy some of that stuff?

Take out, I mean?

FAX

Yeah, if it were still in my wheel house. Now it's 13 hrs away. :(

Fire Me Boy! 11-09-2011 06:55 AM

It does look tasty. I just think if you're gonna call it "mac" then you're obligated to use macaroni. :shrug:

J Diddy 11-09-2011 07:00 AM

I think I am going to not try this. Especially since I live 5 minutes from Fred and Red's.

Marcellus 11-09-2011 07:02 AM

Good job SR but that would be Spaghetti Red not CHili Mac unless I am missing something.

KCUnited 11-09-2011 08:10 AM

Looks more like Spaghetti Red too me.

Red Beans 11-09-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8093495)
I'm glad Fred N Red's was spared by the tornado. It was close, but went just south.

The truth!

tooge 11-09-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8094061)
It does look tasty. I just think if you're gonna call it "mac" then you're obligated to use macaroni. :shrug:

thats what I thought. Oh, and I've never had a chili made with beef that was as good as a chili made with venison. Something about the sweetness of the venison just begs for it to be put in chili.

Simply Red 11-09-2011 08:37 AM

Dammit - Spaghetti-Red.

Fish 11-09-2011 08:48 AM

I've never heard of Chili Mac or Spaghetti Red... Looks like some kinda chili/spaghetti monster baby.

Skeptical...

DMAC 11-09-2011 08:49 AM

Top with cheddar cheese and it becomes Chili 3-Way.

Simply Red 11-09-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8094202)
I've never heard of Chili Mac or Spaghetti Red... Looks like some kinda chili/spaghetti monster baby.

Skeptical...

The after-birth delivers!

Simply Red 11-09-2011 08:58 AM

ROFL

Fire Me Boy! 11-09-2011 09:22 AM

ROFL

Simply Red 11-09-2011 07:26 PM

Feel free to NOW make this a poop thread.

look, thanks guys!

Fire Me Boy! 11-09-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaghetti Red (Post 8095783)
Feel free to NOW make this a poop thread.

look, thanks guys!

I was thinking about making this on Friday or Saturday... need something easy for my Skyrim time.

Simply Red 11-09-2011 07:40 PM

be sure you focus on the ONE envelope of french
s chili seasoning with onions

pictured

http://i42.tinypic.com/a0ccpw.jpg

Simply Red 11-09-2011 07:41 PM

2x - off brand basic chili seasoning envelopes - plus one of the above.

Great Expectations 11-09-2011 07:48 PM

What about leaving the beans out?

It should also be noted that the chili is great in tamales.

Marcellus 11-09-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8095835)
What about leaving the beans out?

It should also be noted that the chili is great in tamales.

Fed & Red's Tamale spread with chili on top is the bomb. And it just might kill you.

Simply Red 11-09-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8095835)
What about leaving the beans out?

F&R's do, I think.

One can is JUST the right amount. You all should just listen to daddy with things like food and fashion, dont argue, just listen & absorb it. I know food, even pure shit food such as this.

Ming the Merciless 11-09-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8093294)
I'm having a problem with something called "chili mac" that uses "spaghetti". Anyone else having this problem?

*raises hand*

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8095883)
*raises hand*

Negged!

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:08 PM

Hey guys, I did it again!

Bugeater 11-06-2012 08:09 PM

This is the best thread on the front page right now.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9092398)
This is the best thread on the front page right now.

KNEW IT!!

Red Beans 11-06-2012 08:21 PM

No f'in way! It can't be done. I do not believe.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 8094204)
Top with cheddar cheese and it becomes Chili 3-Way.



http://i.imgur.com/25DJ8.gif

Easy 6 11-06-2012 08:28 PM

That IS looking pretty damn good right now, think i'll give it a shot on my day off this week.

KCUnited 11-06-2012 08:29 PM

Honestly, it reads like it would be a bit sweet for me.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9092510)
That IS looking pretty damn good right now, think i'll give it a shot on my day off this week.

French's Onion Chili seasoning - it and the sugar both are critical here.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9092515)
Honestly, it reads like it would be a bit sweet for me.

No, not at all. I freestyled the recipe though, so add as you go, but sugar is absolutely a must.

Easy 6 11-06-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9092521)
French's Onion Chili seasoning - it and the sugar both are critical here.

I'll remember that.

Saccopoo 11-07-2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8093294)
I'm having a problem with something called "chili mac" that uses "spaghetti". Anyone else having this problem?

From a technical standpoint, yes. Red dropped the ball there, but after eating so-called "Chili Mac" in the Army in about a thousand different forms, I'm willing to give him a pass as long as it stands up to the taste test.

My only problem with the recipe has already been called out in terms of packaged chili seasonings...but again, it's Chili Mac. There has to be some leaway given in all aspects.

BlackHelicopters 11-07-2012 06:58 AM

Fred and Reds is for sale. The actual recipe could be yours if the price is right. Original grease on the plates included.

Rukdafaidas 11-07-2012 08:09 AM

I hate to say it, but that recipe isn't even close. Believe it or not, there are no tomato products used in Fred & Red's chili. Also, there are no beans in spaghetti red.
Here's a recipe that pretty much nails it:
http://wegottaeat.com/travis/recipes...d-chili-recipe

Simply Red 06-12-2014 10:25 PM

I'm making this tomorrow and posting it in the tamale // chili mac thread - It's my cheat day.

Discuss Thrower 06-12-2014 10:28 PM

Yeah that recipe isn't close.

Again, I failed both times making my attempt at the faux-Fred and Red's chili. But on the second attempt, it at least smelled identical and had the correct consistency.

The taste only came around when I POURED salt on each bite.

Simply Red 06-12-2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10688023)
Yeah that recipe isn't close.

Again, I failed both times making my attempt at the faux-Fred and Red's chili. But on the second attempt, it at least smelled identical and had the correct consistency.

The taste only came around when I POURED salt on each bite.

when I did this it tasted almost exactly the same - I think they may've used that French's label of seasoning. It's pretty good for that packaged bullshit.

Discuss Thrower 06-12-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10688029)
when I did this it tasted almost exactly the same - I think they may've used that French's label of seasoning. It's pretty good for that packaged bullshit.

The FB recipe calls for William's Chili Powder, and some cumin.

Also, it calls for half a package of saltines to be ground up and added into the beef after it's been browned.

Simply Red 06-12-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10688033)
The FB recipe calls for William's Chili Powder, and some cumin.

Also, it calls for half a package of saltines to be ground up and added into the beef after it's been browned.

that's interesting - thanks.

Discuss Thrower 06-12-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10688036)
that's interesting - thanks.

Here you go, SR

Quote:

Okay, here's my "fake" F&R chili recipe.

Note - I don't know if this is the actual thing or not. It's based on two look-alike recipes I found by Googling, and a third that appeared in the Joplin Globe a few months ago. I've made a few very minor changes to the ingredient ratios, but fundamentally it's the same recipe as published in those sources.

2 lbs ground beef
3 TBSP (or one 1-oz packet) Williams Chili Seasoning
1 tsp ea of Cumin and Garlic Salt
2/3 sleeve saltines (approx 25 crackers)
3 C water, divided

Brown and drain the beef, then add spices and simmer 15 minutes. Add saltines and 2-1/2 C water, cover and simmer 30 minutes. Remove cover, add final 1/2 C water, and simmer an additional 30 minutes.

If the chili gets too thick, add a little more water - you know what the consistency should be, so you'll know if/when this is necessary.

Two of the online recipes call for using the fattiest ground beef and NOT draining the fat after the beef has browned. I've made it both ways and much prefer to drain. But if you opt to leave the grease in, reduce the water to 2 C during the first simmer and 1/2 C during the second.

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To scale this recipe to make a 3-lb batch of chili, follow the instructions above but make these substitutions:

3 lbs ground beef
4-1/2 TBSP (or 1.5 1-oz packets) Williams Chili Seasoning
1-1/2 tsp ea of Cumin and Garlic Salt
1 sleeve saltines (approx 40 crackers)
4-1/2 C water, divided (3-3/4 C if leaving the grease in)

Divide the water as follows:
3-3/4 C first simmer (3C if leaving the grease in)
3/4 C second simmer

Simply Red 06-12-2014 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10688078)
Here you go, SR

Williams is made in Missouri or Kansas huh? I've not seen that in years. I bet it's good though. I don't mind spice mixes as much - I know several here do though.

Discuss Thrower 06-12-2014 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10688104)
Williams is made in Missouri or Kansas huh? I've not seen that in years. I bet it's good though. I don't mind spice mixes as much - I know several here do though.

Don't know, seemed pretty ubiquitous. HyVee in Springfield stocks it.

Simply Red 06-12-2014 11:38 PM

It's made in Cleveland Texas and is available online.

Discuss Thrower 06-12-2014 11:40 PM

The problem I had was with the simmer.

First batch I never stirred it, so a nice layer of beef congealed to my saute pan.

Second time I stirred it CONSTANTLY to prevent the aforementioned effect, and I think it ****ed everything up.

srvy 06-12-2014 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10688122)
It's made in Cleveland Texas and is available online.

http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Chili...pr_product_top

Its headquarters is in Lenexa ks. Think its made there also. This is the only Chilli spice that satisfies me when I make at home. It reminds me of chilli we had as kids when we would play all day outdoors in the snow. We would com in and mom would have chilli for us.

Simply Red 06-12-2014 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10688135)
http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Chili...pr_product_top

Its headquarters is in Lenexa ks. Think its made there also. This is the only Chilli spice that satisfies me when I make at home. It reminds me of chilli we had as kids when we would play all day outdoors in the snow. We would com in and mom would have chilli for us.

OK I misread - but I THOUGHT it was made nearby KC. that's cool.

Buehler445 06-13-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10688104)
Williams is made in Missouri or Kansas huh? I've not seen that in years. I bet it's good though. I don't mind spice mixes as much - I know several here do though.

Wait, what? I have something stocked in Scott city nowhereville that you guys in big cities don't?

We have Williams seasonings here locally.

Stewie 06-13-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10688135)
http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Chili...pr_product_top

Its headquarters is in Lenexa ks. Think its made there also. This is the only Chilli spice that satisfies me when I make at home. It reminds me of chilli we had as kids when we would play all day outdoors in the snow. We would com in and mom would have chilli for us.

I pass their plant in Lenexa everyday. It's still called Williams but I think they were bought out by some big company a while back.


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