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penguinz 02-06-2012 09:42 AM

Kansas City is Fiber-Ready!
 
We’ve measured utility poles; we’ve studied maps and surveyed neighborhoods; we’ve come up with a comprehensive set of detailed engineering plans; and we’ve eaten way too much barbecue. Now, starting today, we’re ready to lay fiber.

As we build out Google Fiber, we’ll be taking thousands of miles of cables and stretching them across Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri. Each cable contains many thin glass fibers, each about the width of a human hair. We’ll be taking these cables and weaving them into a fiber backbone—a completely new high speed infrastructure that will ultimately be carrying Kansas Citians’ data at speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have today.

At first, we’ll focus on building this solid fiber backbone. Then, as soon as we have an infrastructure that is up and running, we’ll be able to connect Google Fiber into homes across Kansas City!

As we build, we’ll be sure to post more important updates and announcements right here.

http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/...oles-weve.html

Mr_Tomahawk 02-06-2012 09:44 AM

Does this mean we get another draft pick?

I am not sure what this means?

htismaqe 02-06-2012 09:46 AM

The first 4 words are a bit (not a lot) troublesome if I'm a fiber consumer in the upper Midwest...

Molitoth 02-06-2012 09:46 AM

Does this mean I can win at Call of Duty now?

I hope it makes it to St. Joe, I'm so effing sick of Suddenlink.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-06-2012 09:48 AM

Oooooooooh...

Is this [Pioli] code for we are going to get rid of Matt Cassel!??!!!!

stonedstooge 02-06-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 8352967)
We’ve measured utility poles; we’ve studied maps and surveyed neighborhoods; we’ve come up with a comprehensive set of detailed engineering plans; and we’ve eaten way too much barbecue. Now, starting today, we’re ready to lay fiber.

As we build out Google Fiber, we’ll be taking thousands of miles of cables and stretching them across Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri. Each cable contains many thin glass fibers, each about the width of a human hair. We’ll be taking these cables and weaving them into a fiber backbone—a completely new high speed infrastructure that will ultimately be carrying Kansas Citians’ data at speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have today.

At first, we’ll focus on building this solid fiber backbone. Then, as soon as we have an infrastructure that is up and running, we’ll be able to connect Google Fiber into homes across Kansas City!

As we build, we’ll be sure to post more important updates and announcements right here.

http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/...oles-weve.html

Who is going to get access to this? Are cable companies able to purchase it and provide it for their customers?

loochy 02-06-2012 09:52 AM

Fiber ready? Well, here you go!

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suds79 02-06-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8352988)
Who is going to get access to this? Are cable companies able to purchase it and provide it for their customers?

Good Q. Never looked into this but when the announcement came out, I thought it meant that Google is essentially launching its own cable business.

I hope that's the case.

Pants 02-06-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8352993)
Good Q. Never looked into this but when the announcement came out, I thought it meant that Google is essentially launching its own cable business.

I hope that's the case.

I think it is. Google is slowly taking over the world. The machines are building The Matrix as we speak.

penguinz 02-06-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8352988)
Who is going to get access to this? Are cable companies able to purchase it and provide it for their customers?

First to get access will be Goverment buildings and schools. Businesses and Homes will be soon after.

Google will be partnering with a local company to handle the premise install and billing but it will all be owned by Google.

Cost is supposed to be in line with what people pay now for their much slower connections. If this is all true then the cost for bandwidth in the areas that Google will be in will be dropping.

Pants 02-06-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 8353025)
First to get access will be Goverment buildings and schools. Businesses and Homes will be soon after.

Google will be partnering with a local company to handle the premise install and billing but it will all be owned by Google.

Cost is supposed to be in line with what people pay now for their much slower connections. If this is all true then the cost for bandwidth in the areas that Google will be in will be dropping.

Is this going to be for KCK only for now? Any chance it will spread into surrounding suburbs? :grovel:

Dr. Gigglepants 02-06-2012 10:17 AM

So my TWC $53/month bill for *up to* 12 MB will hopefully drop?

Is anyone in the know on Lee's Summit providing residents with free wireless internet? I heard that recently, not sure at all on the accuracy of that statement, however.
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Deberg_1990 02-06-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8352976)
The first 4 words are a bit (not a lot) troublesome if I'm a fiber consumer in the upper Midwest...

Sounds like they got some of the utility pole issues worked out??



http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/06...-internet.html

penguinz 02-06-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8353029)
Is this going to be for KCK only for now? Any chance it will spread into surrounding suburbs? :grovel:

KCK for now. Will be coming to the MO side as well.

htismaqe 02-06-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8353029)
Is this going to be for KCK only for now? Any chance it will spread into surrounding suburbs? :grovel:

It's all going to depend on the local governments.

Google (or anybody for that matter) is only as good as their right-of-way agreements.

Their opening statement about looking at utility poles suggests they've already failed to secure underground conduit.

If the entrenched cable and telephone companies are successful in lobbying the local governments, Google won't be able to do anything.

htismaqe 02-06-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8353046)
Sounds like they got some of the utility pole issues worked out??

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/06...-internet.html

Yes, some. My comment was more about aerial fiber in the upper midwest being fraught with potential issues, particularly in winter.

As for the issues outlined in the article, see my previous post - Google's presence in KCK is 100% due to a deal they struck with the local government of Wyandotte County. Without that, they have nothing. If the incumbents can successful prevent such relationships elsewhere in the metro, Google will never be able to expand.

stonedstooge 02-06-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8353051)
It's all going to depend on the local governments.

Google (or anybody for that matter) is only as good as their right-of-way agreements.

Their opening statement about looking at utility poles suggests they've already failed to secure underground conduit.

If the entrenched cable and telephone companies are successful in lobbying the local governments, Google won't be able to do anything.

Time for Goggle to start greasing some politicians palms with money. Sad how it works

htismaqe 02-06-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8353059)
Time for Goggle to start greasing some politicians palms with money. Sad how it works

Yeah, it is sad. The thing is, it used to seem like Google was one of the "good guys" but having interacted with them on a few occasions now, they operate a lot like the other members of the good ole boys club.

penguinz 02-06-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8353051)
It's all going to depend on the local governments.

Google (or anybody for that matter) is only as good as their right-of-way agreements.

Their opening statement about looking at utility poles suggests they've already failed to secure underground conduit.

If the entrenched cable and telephone companies are successful in lobbying the local governments, Google won't be able to do anything.

There was never any plans to go underground. The cost would be too high.

The issue with the utility poles was that on he KS side the city/county owns the poles and there was miscommunication between the two on where on the pole the fiber was going to be hung.

On the MO side Google has reached agreements with KCPL for the hanging of the fiber and since KCPL owns those poles there should not be these issues.

htismaqe 02-06-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 8353070)
There was never any plans to go underground. The cost would be too high.

The issue with the utility poles was that on he KS side the city/county owns the poles and there was miscommunication between the two on where on the pole the fiber was going to be hung.

On the MO side Google has reached agreements with KCPL for the hanging of the fiber and since KCPL owns those poles there should not be these issues.

Again, I'm not talking necessarily about the legal issues surrounding using the poles. I'm talking strictly about the rate of failure of aerial fiber vs. underground fiber in an area that sees freezing/ice regularly. Google is laying fiber to compete in the area but it's unlikely that it will ever be more than that, due to the cost/benefit issues of providing such a service.

Google doesn't have the breadth of media services to compete without entering into agreements with other media providers, forcing them into the same kind of business model the other cable and telecom providers in the area use. There's nothing that really "differentiates" them, outside of their name and the loyalty to it. That ties back to the aerial fiber in that even their cable plant will be similar to their competitors - they won't necessarily be able to provide a "more stable" connection or better "uptime". They promise higher speeds but notice that said press releases always say that their prices will be "comparable and competitive" which means it's NOT going to be cheaper.

By contrast, my local provider here buried their fiber. They've already seen a 76% reduction in outside plant-related trouble tickets and are projected to save $20M over the next 10 years. That $20M, from a competitive standpoint, gives them an extreme edge over the competition in the area because they can afford to streamline, invest, and otherwise re-shape their business.

rageeumr 02-06-2012 10:46 AM

They haven't issued any kind of deployment schedule or map yet, have they? I think it will be really interesting to see when, where and how they implement the services.

Deberg_1990 02-06-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8353057)
Yes, some. My comment was more about aerial fiber in the upper midwest being fraught with potential issues, particularly in winter.

As for the issues outlined in the article, see my previous post - Google's presence in KCK is 100% due to a deal they struck with the local government of Wyandotte County. Without that, they have nothing. If the incumbents can successful prevent such relationships elsewhere in the metro, Google will never be able to expand.

INteresting. Yea, i highly doubt they are ever able to compete on a national scale with the giants of Telecom firmly entrenched.

stonedstooge 02-06-2012 11:13 AM

Some company has been laying cable up here in Platte County. Not sure what its for though.

Phobia 02-06-2012 12:05 PM

I'm not sure I'd want google to own the physical layer to my house. They already know almost everything about me.

Pants 02-06-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8353281)
I'm not sure I'd want google to own the physical layer to my house. They already know almost everything about me.

They can have my privacy for 500Mb pipes.

scho63 01-13-2013 06:54 PM

Looks pretty cool and start-up businesses are gravitating to the project. Hope it creates the success they expect.

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Google's ultrafast Internet draws startups to Kansas City hoping to create a 'Silicon Prairie'

http://news.yahoo.com/googles-ultraf...174542119.html

ONLY POSTED THE FIRST 1/4 OF THE ARTICLE TOO LONG

KANSAS CITY, Kan. (AP) -- Inside a small bungalow on the street separating Kansas City, Kan., from its sister city in Missouri, a small group of entrepreneurs are working on their ideas for the next high-tech startup, tapping Google Inc.'s new superfast Internet connection that has turned the neighborhood into an unlikely settlement dubbed the "Silicon Prairie."

The home on State Line Road is one of several startup-friendly locations that have sprouted up in Kansas City in recent months. The catalyst is Google Fiber, the search-engine giant's fiber-optic network being tested in the Kansas City area that advertises speeds of up to a gigabyte per second — a rate that massively exceeds the average Internet speeds at homes hooked up with cable modems.

The advantage here for startups is simple: A fast Internet pipe makes it easier to handle large files and eliminates buffering problems that plague online video, live conferencing or other network-intensive tasks. Though the Kansas City location presents challenges for startups, including the ability to raise money outside the traditional Silicon Valley venture capital scene, entrepreneurs like Synthia Payne believe it's the place to be right now for up-and-coming tech companies.

Payne is one of those entrepreneurs hoping to launch her startup dream — an Internet subscription service for musicians who want to collaborate online — on the cheap. She shares the State Line Road house, known as the "Home for Hackers," with other startups under a deal that allows them to live rent-free while they develop their business plans.

Google's network was attractive, Payne said, because her business plan "is dependent upon really good, really fast Internet."

CrazyPhuD 01-13-2013 07:07 PM

Ok this belongs here....slightly NSFW language.

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