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Chiefnj 06-15-2006 01:14 PM

If pit bull breeders sold their dogs to responsible owners this wouldn't be a big problem. Police yourself and you don't have to worry about others doing it for you.

memyselfI 06-15-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod
What a frickin' joke. I'm not familiar with most of those breeds, but I have first hand knowledge of boxers (I just lost my 12 year old female this spring).

I don't know how anyone with a shred of intelligence could consider boxers as a dangerous breed. It is common knowledge in the dog world that boxers are one of the most gentle breeds to have around children.

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This post is 100% correct. MOF, I actually recommended a boxer to the poster looking for a puppy. I think people think boxers must have some kind of pit bull in them and that they look mean and therefore must be vicious. I have not seen one vicious boxer. I've seen more vicious poodles than boxers.

As far as the rest of the list. There are two dogs on the list that I would lose NO sleep over if they were banned and those are pit bulls and Rotts.

BIG_DADDY 06-15-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
If pit bull breeders sold their dogs to responsible owners this wouldn't be a big problem. Police yourself and you don't have to worry about others doing it for you.

You know what the biggest biter is here locally? Labs

What the call Pit Bulls now includes American Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Bulldog, American Staffordshire Terrier and anything that remotely resembles any of these dogs. Once again there isn't a problem they just need a demon so they can go after many breeds. If you own any of these you better start trying to make sure BSL doesn't go down in your area.

*American Pit Bull Terrier
*American Staffordshire Terrier
*Staffordshire Bull Terrier
*Rottweiler
*Bull Mastiff
*Doberman Pinscher
*St. Bernard
*Dogo Argentino
*German Shephard
*Akita
*Chow Chow
*Boxer
*Rhodesian Ridgeback
*Dogue de Bordeaux
*Husky
*Wolf Hybrid
*Great Pyrenees

We need to punsih the deed not the breed and hold owners accountible. Breed specific genocide is not the answer. I don't mind being policed but do it the right way.

memyselfI 06-15-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
If pit bull breeders sold their dogs to responsible owners this wouldn't be a big problem. Police yourself and you don't have to worry about others doing it for you.

This would work if you could agree on what 'responsible' means and if you could guarantee the original owner will always have the dog. You can't do either.

tk13 06-15-2006 01:28 PM

There was an attack in Indianapolis a couple weeks ago, just horrible stuff. This mother was with her 4 year old and 2 year old walking down the street, and I guess one of the neighbors left the door open and the pit bull came outside and attacked the 2 year old girl. Completely mauled her, about lost an eye, had to reattached, and try to rebuild her skull. Her recovery could take months or years. It's amazing she even lived.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wrtv/20060601/lo_wrtv/9303286

BIG_DADDY 06-15-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
:clap:

This post is 100% correct. MOF, I actually recommended a boxer to the poster looking for a puppy. I think people think boxers must have some kind of pit bull in them and that they look mean and therefore must be vicious. I have not seen one vicious boxer. I've seen more vicious poodles than boxers.

As far as the rest of the list. There are two dogs on the list that I would lose NO sleep over if they were banned and those are pit bulls and Rotts.


You are truly a POS on every level. Thanks for proving me right as to where you would weigh in on this. You never cross the party line. I swear you would eat your own young if it was the party line. If you work in a vets office you already know there is nothing wrong with those dogs and you know what is they are trying to accomplish in passing BSL. Every time I think I can't be more disgusted by your existence you take it to another level.

BIG_DADDY 06-15-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
There was an attack in Indianapolis a couple weeks ago, just horrible stuff. This mother was with her 4 year old and 2 year old walking down the street, and I guess one of the neighbors left the door open and the pit bull came outside and attacked the 2 year old girl. Completely mauled her, had to reattach an eye, reattach an ear, and try to rebuild her skull. Her recovery could take months or years. It's amazing she even lived.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wrtv/20060601/lo_wrtv/9303286

When in doubt find a horror story. What a joke. Notice how they rarely show a picture of the dog. Also notice it's the only dog stories ever reported my the media.

tk13 06-15-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
When in doubt find a horror story. What a joke. Notice how they rarely show a picture of the dog. Also notice it's the only dog stories ever reported my the media.

You expect the dog to be taken in for mug shots? Haha... I don't care what kind of dog it is, if it does that to a little girl the owner should be hit in the face with a tire iron about 50 times. Period.

penguinz 06-15-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
When in doubt find a horror story. What a joke. Notice how they rarely show a picture of the dog. Also notice it's the only dog stories ever reported my the media.

Totally untrue. I saw a dog story on the news the other day that was about a dog that water skis. :)

BIG_DADDY 06-15-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
You expect the dog to be taken in for mug shots? Haha... I don't care what kind of dog it is, if it does that to a little girl the owner should be hit in the face with a tire iron about 50 times. Period.

Yes, holding owner and dogs accountible is the answer. So is promoting the subject fairly instead of promoting fear based on the breed unfairly.

tk13 06-15-2006 01:40 PM

Actually this good timing, I guess another man was attacked by two pit bulls in Indianapolis this morning. And they did take pictures of them. They're discussing inacting some kind of law in Indy because there's been about 4 attacks in recent weeks, especially after that little girl was hurt.

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=5036015

http://wthr.images.worldnow.com/images/5036015_BG1.jpg
http://wthr.images.worldnow.com/images/5036015_BG2.jpg

Dartgod 06-15-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
I think people think boxers must have some kind of pit bull in them and that they look mean and therefore must be vicious.

Exactly. Where I lived before, we had a completely fenced in yard, with the mailbox on the front gate. The mailman would not drop off the mail on days the dogs were out (my roommate had a boxer too) because he thought they were pit bulls.

That's the problem with banning specific breeds. The morons making these laws wouldn't know a pit bull from a chihuahua. Pretty soon all dogs will be banned.

memyselfI 06-15-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod
Exactly. Where I lived before, we had a completely fenced in yard, with the mailbox on the front gate. The mailman would not drop off the mail on days the dogs were out (my roommate had a boxer too) because he thought they were pit bulls.

That's the problem with banning specific breeds. The morons making these laws wouldn't know a pit bull from a chihuahua. Pretty soon all dogs will be banned.

That is going a bit overboard. There is no movement to ban Collies, or Labs, or Pointers, or Bichons or Dachshunds. The reason there is an interest in banning certain types of dogs is because certain types of dogs are primarily responsible for the most vicious and mortal attacks. Yes, it's true ANY dog can attack under the right circumstances but there are some that are more quick to respond with anger and force and they also will not stop when commanded to do so once they start to get out of hand.

The entire debate is really silly. There is no inherent/second amendment right in the constitution stating a citizen is entitled to own a certain type of dog. I think it's completely within the right of govenrments to control the population of certain types of animals in order to protect the greater good.

Chiefnj 06-15-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
You know what the biggest biter is here locally? Labs

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I'm sure Labs are the #1 biter since there are so many labs around chances are there would be higher bite #. However, fortunately for labs, they don't do the same amount of destruction that a pit bull does when it latches on.

The answer is responsible breeders and owners. Pit bulls often don't have either and the dogs will suffer because of it.

When you watch an episode of COPS and they respond to some meth head in a double wide, or some row house full of crack sellers/users you never see a weiner dog in the background barking - always a pit bull.

BIG_DADDY 06-15-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Actually this good timing, I guess another man was attacked by two pit bulls in Indianapolis this morning. And they did take pictures of them. They're discussing inacting some kind of law in Indy because there's been about 4 attacks in recent weeks, especially after that little girl was hurt.

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=5036015

http://wthr.images.worldnow.com/images/5036015_BG1.jpg
http://wthr.images.worldnow.com/images/5036015_BG2.jpg


Fear Monger away. If you look long enough you probably find some info on the breed being the dog of the debil. Don't bother with the numbers or the facts or the history of BSL though. Don't bother with temperment testing or the fact that they call many breeds including anything that remotely resembles a pit a pit. I have been posting the real numbers for a long time now on this subject as well as the history of BSL and you haven't responded to any of it. It's quite clear at this point that all you can bring to the table is cut and paste fear monger articles from the media feeding frenzy on the subject.


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