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old_geezer 11-17-2004 08:13 AM

Vermeil: No changes in defense
 
From today's KC Star newspaper under the heading "Status Quo for Defense" Vermeil is quoted as saying there will be no changes in the starters for the defense because "the Chiefs don't have anyone better to replace the starters with."

That's it...I'm officially off the Vermeil bandwagon. If our reserves on D aren't even worth inserting into the lineup in place of this pile of festering dog crap then we suck even worse on defense than I thought. You can dump the whole damn bunch in the Missouri River and start over as far as I'm concerned. It can't get worse.

By the way DICK, what's wrong with at least giving your reserves some playing time to see if maybe, just maybe, they might perform better that the lifeless corpses you're starting now ?

:cuss: :banghead: :cuss:

BigRedChief 11-17-2004 08:16 AM

WTF? No way. One of the worst defenses in the NFL. The years over. Let's see what somone else can do..

Battle
Sapp
Fox
Bartee
Harts
Wilkerson
Black

Now's a great time to see if they can do the job or not.

KCTitus 11-17-2004 08:20 AM

Ok, so if I follow this...DV says the best players are on the field, and they're bad, so you all want him to put in worse players and make it worse?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.

BigRedChief 11-17-2004 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Ok, so if I follow this...DV says the best players are on the field, and they're bad, so you all want him to put in worse players and make it worse?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.

I'm totally shocked at the level of play from Wesley and Woods. Who could have seen that coming. but how do we know they are worse? Can they even be worse? And why are they even on the roster if they can't see the field in a lost season?

the Talking Can 11-17-2004 08:28 AM

I thought we had the deepest squad that DV and CP had ever assembled....now DV is saying there is no one who deserves to play more than Woods?

this franchise is f'd up....I won't even bother to ask how we know Harts isn't better when he sits on the bench.....

Chiefnj 11-17-2004 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Ok, so if I follow this...DV says the best players are on the field, and they're bad, so you all want him to put in worse players and make it worse?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.


I think the point is DV and team haven't been able to develop anyone to replace starters who are doing very poorly. So, the team is left with bad starters and backups who won't even be given a chance because the staff has no hope or faith they can come in and give the team a boost or improve with playing time. Since there is no present talent and an absence of future talent, gut the team and start over.

KCTitus 11-17-2004 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I'm totally shocked at the level of play from Wesley and Woods. Who could have seen that coming. but how do we know they are worse? Can they even be worse? And why are they even on the roster if they can't see the field in a lost season?

I have to believe they're worse because that's what DV says. Since Im not able to watch practice and break down the film, I have to take his word for it.

milkman 11-17-2004 08:29 AM

I want him to put in some of the younger players to see if we have anyone that has a future, or that might have the desire to make hits, or that have might have more speed to make plays.

I just can't see how the D could get any worse if we give players like Harts, Pile, or Fox on the field opportunities..

Even Scanlon should get an opportunity.

The bottom line is that we are among the bottom 5 in D.
If he plays some of the kids, even if our D declines even further, what the hell would be the difference.

Whether you're near the bottom, or at the very bottom, suckage is suckage, and we just suck.

Frankie 11-17-2004 08:30 AM

I wonder if DV's statement is not an indirect stab at Peterson for not bringing in players. Something tells me it's no longer real heaven between DV and CP since LJ got drafted by Carl.

HC_Chief 11-17-2004 08:31 AM

I heard DV prattle off a bunch of excuses for the _efense this morning on 610.

The man has lost it.

the Talking Can 11-17-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie
I wonder if DV's statement is not an indirect stab at Peterson for not bringing in players. Something tells me it's no longer real heaven between DV and CP since LJ got drafted by Carl.

You mean they don't make out in DV's Porshe anymore?

old_geezer 11-17-2004 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Ok, so if I follow this...DV says the best players are on the field, and they're bad, so you all want him to put in worse players and make it worse?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.


What I'm really trying to say is that if the current starters are the best we have and there is no help available on the bench, then this defense SUCKS even worse than I thought and whoever is responsible for talent evaluation (I use the term loosely) for the defense needs to be let go. At this stage of the season it couldn't hurt to see if maybe we have a "gamer" on the bench - someone who plays better on the field than in practice. We have nothing to lose.

Bob Dole 11-17-2004 08:33 AM

We ought to just insert the fastest player on the team in Wood's place and put them in center field.

It's pretty sad when week after week we get to watch an opposing player simply outrun everybody on the defense.

KCTitus 11-17-2004 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Since there is no present talent and an absence of future talent, gut the team and start over.

In today's NFL, that doesnt happen. If KC hit the jackpot and found a CB and Pass rusher the defense would instantly be different. That's 2 players out of 11--hardly a 'gut'

morphius 11-17-2004 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Ok, so if I follow this...DV says the best players are on the field, and they're bad, so you all want him to put in worse players and make it worse?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.

I think the coach needs to make a point to either woods or wesley by at least not starting one of them. These guys are not QB's or CB's that need their self esteem stroked all the time and while they may be better then there backups, I'm sure their backups can miss plays just as easily.


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