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RINGLEADER 04-27-2009 09:30 AM

What's the Point Of Grading Drafts Of Players Who Haven't Played (Grade 2006 Draft)
 
What's the point of grading a draft of players who haven't played yet?

We should be reviewing our 2006 draft:

1st - Tamba Hali: C- (giving him a letter for play across from Jared Allen) - STARTER
2nd - Bernard Pollard: C- (too inconsistent) - STARTER
3rd - Brodie Croyle: D- (really an "F" as QBOTF) - BACK-UP
5th - Marcus Maxey: F (who?) - NO LONGER IN NFL
6th - Tre Stallings: F (played in only one game) - ON RAVENS PRACTICE SQUAD
6th - Jeff Webb: D (had an okay sophmore season before regressing last year) - BACK-UP
7th - Jarred Page: B+ (excellent value pick) - STARTER

I'd give CP and Co. a solid D+ for this one.

T-post Tom 04-27-2009 09:32 AM

If Hali goes LB, you may have to revise your grade after this season. :hmmm:

Sure-Oz 04-27-2009 09:34 AM

Hali looks like an urukai from LOTR

DeezNutz 04-27-2009 09:34 AM

That's not a good looking draft.

the Talking Can 04-27-2009 09:35 AM

pitiful draft

Buehler445 04-27-2009 09:37 AM

Horrid. I imagine 2007 will be similar, unless turk and tank pull their heads out of their asses.

Hopefully 2008 will be better.
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Sure-Oz 04-27-2009 09:37 AM

Tamba peaked before he even got to the chiefs and everyone knew he had no upside

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5718407)
That's not a good looking draft.

I don't know.

I really do think that there is some talent there, I just think that coaching has really held some of these guys back.

That's why I'm kinda frustrated that we not only kept Krumrie, but that we're changing to a scheme that makes guys like Hali and Dorsey worthless. I would have been interested to see how they looked in a 4-3 under a different DC.

the Talking Can 04-27-2009 09:43 AM

we suck ass

DeezNutz 04-27-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5718416)
I don't know.

I really do think that there is some talent there, I just think that coaching has really held some of these guys back.

That's why I'm kinda frustrated that we not only kept Krumrie, but that we're changing to a scheme that makes guys like Hali and Dorsey worthless. I would have been interested to see how they looked in a 4-3 under a different DC.

Maybe.

But part of my disdain for that draft is also tied to the fact that the organization's misguided adoration of Brodie ****ing Croyle has caused a set back in trying to find a real answer for the most important position on the field.

Tamba, I think, can be serviceable. Pollard and Page, maybe with better coaching...but 3-6 are a complete cluster ****.

veist 04-27-2009 11:01 AM

To be fair, pulling a starter out of 4 picks in the 5th through 7th rounds and 3 fails isn't that terrible. Its probably more like typical than terrible.

EyePod 04-27-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5718399)
What's the point of grading a draft of players who haven't played yet?

We should be reviewing our 2006 draft:

1st - Tamba Hali: C- (giving him a letter for play across from Jared Allen) - STARTER
2nd - Bernard Pollard: C- (too inconsistent) - STARTER
3rd - Brodie Croyle: D- (really an "F" as QBOTF) - BACK-UP
5th - Marcus Maxey: F (who?) - NO LONGER IN NFL
6th - Tre Stallings: F (played in only one game) - ON RAVENS PRACTICE SQUAD
6th - Jeff Webb: D (had an okay sophmore season before regressing last year) - BACK-UP
7th - Jarred Page: B+ (excellent value pick) - STARTER

I'd give CP and Co. a solid D+ for this one.

I really disagree with the Pollard pick. He improved a lot last year, and tackled. For someone who "couldn't tackle" he did a lot better. Also, he should be used correctly *hopefully* a la Adrian Wilson style. I'd give him a C+ at the lowest, just because he shouldn't have been a 2nd round pick.

EyePod 04-27-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5718406)
Hali looks like an urukai from LOTR

HAHAHAHA

Mr. Arrowhead 04-27-2009 11:03 AM

really Brodie Croyle should be a F, hes a 3rd string qb on an average at best football team

EyePod 04-27-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5718406)
Hali looks like an urukai from LOTR

http://www.mirko-meitzner.de/urukai.jpghttp://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/tamba_hali.jpg

Distant cousins?


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