2009 Mock Draft
 

I thought this was odd...

"The draft order in this mock draft was determined by calculated judgment on how I believe the teams will fair this season. All of the prospects in this mock draft are eligible for the 2009 draft, but just because they’re eligible, that doesn’t mean they will declare. With that said, congratulations to the Dallas Cowboys for winning Super Bowl XLIII and to the Kansas City Chiefs for finishing with the worst record, as they continue to rebuild their football team. The Chiefs are now on the clock…"



http://profootballexperts.scout.com/2/752283.html

Stay in school, Timmy!

I'm starting to think that, around the NFL, the Chiefs lack cred when it comes to this rebuild thing. Herm needs to call a press conference to straighten this sh*t out.

"Hey, now."

FAX

Hey at least the broncos still suck!

This is a fun one, too.
 

Our whole division sucks, except the Chargers.

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And, in the first round of the 2008 Orphan's Draft, the Denver Broncos select Little Mustafa Ali Mustafa!

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This guy is an idiot. Chiefs won't even be to 10 unfortunately.

Who knows? Maybe he'll work out on our D-Line.

You wanna make a wager on that????

I think as easy as our schedule is next year and good a draft class as we have coming inthere is NO reason to believe that 8-8 is not a strong possibility. Herm is really the only one that could hold us back from that.

Dave

Or half a roster full of rookies and second year players...but blaming Herm is always easier.

Or Brodie Croyle either completely failing or getting injured early might have a part in that.

Let's hope of the best.

I'd gladly take Crabtree in that position..or Oher.

I'd rather have a beefcake line or a pimp WR corps than Tim Tebow. I'd rather have Thigpen back there chuckin the ball than Tebow.

Croyle has failed already, in not winning a single game yet.

so with the first overall pick, we are taking a 2nd rounder?

Yeah, he should have just blocked for himself, ran the ball, and caught all of his own passes...

Brodie definately didn't wow anybody last year, but it's absurd to say he's a failure because he didn't win with last years offensive squad.

Do you even realize how terrible the Chiefs running game was last year?

Ridiculous..a terrible running game is a direct reflection of your offensive line.

But he's from Da Gaytors!!! He's just got to be the next Sexy Rexy Grossman.

I agree.

I've always thought Tebow was going to have to be one of those guys who switches positions when he gets to the NFL.

He's in a spread offense, seems like all you hear about is how big/strong of a runner he is.

I'm not convinced he's anything more than just a running QB in a college friendly scoring system.

Yep..and he throws the ball like a shotput...just ungodly ugly.

What do you have in mind?

Whatever you prefer......
money changing hands, $20 to $100
donation to the site, $20
casino cash, $1000

you call it

Exactly. This guy has absolutely no credibility IMO.

Nobrainer, I'd take Oher

Croyle had 9 chances to win 1 game. He did not, that is a failure.
The same team won games before Croyle took center stage with an old, beat up, back up QB. I can't believe some of you guys are standing up for a QB that hasn't even proved that he can win a game in the NFL yet.

Like Elway and Aikman are complete busts and failures when they were starting out, huh

You had 2 chances to make 1 valid point.

Fail.

Larry Johnson anyone? Brodie was kind of without his service for his starts...that might have been an issue. Just maybe. And it doesn't matter if he was at top form last year, teams gameplanned LJ, and when he went down they sure as hell weren't going to gameplan Harris or Smith.

As it stands right now, I go with Oher or Crabtree if we had #1.

How about the entire sum of the others Casino cash?

I wouldn't worry about it too much, Mr. picasso. It's just like the Planet. There are guys who (early in their posting career) can post 700 or 800 times without making any sense, whatsoever. Sometimes it just takes a while to get the hang of it.

Besides, lots of young NFL quarterbacks have problems winning in their first seasons ... even those with good lines and offensive coaches with actual brains and things.

FAX

done.

This is the same guy who had us drafting Brohm at #5.

fuck..we really missed out.

And to think we got stuck with some no-talent assclown DT.

First of all, if we're drafting #1 overall, it won't be used on a "project" QB.

But really, does everyone here just go along with the "experts" that we won't even win as many games as last year??? Even with the schedule we have? Geez, talk about pessimistic.

I mean, it's a stretch to guess who will win these games right now since we don't know about rookie holdouts, additions/subtractions after June 1, training camp reports, etc, but does everyone only see 3 wins from this schedule?

09/14/08 Oakland Raiders
09/21/08 at Atlanta Falcons
09/28/08 Denver Broncos
10/05/08 at Carolina Panthers
10/12/08 Bye
10/19/08 Tennessee Titans
10/26/08 at New York Jets
11/02/08 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
11/09/08 at San Diego Chargers
11/16/08 New Orleans Saints
11/23/08 Buffalo Bills
11/30/08 at Oakland Raiders
12/07/08 at Denver Broncos
12/14/08 San Diego Chargers
12/21/08 Miami Dolphins
12/28/08 at Cincinnati Bengals

With good coaching you don't think there is anyway of going 8-8 REALLY? wow!

Dave

Tim Tebow will never start a regular season game in the NFL
this guy is an idiot!!

1 Sun. Sep. 07 1:00 pm ET at Patriots - - Matchup LOSS
2 Sun. Sep. 14 1:00 pm ET Raiders - - Matchup WIN
3 Sun. Sep. 21 1:00 pm ET at Falcons - - Matchup WIN
4 Sun. Sep. 28 1:00 pm ET Broncos - - Matchup WIN
5 Sun. Oct. 05 1:00 pm ET at Panthers - - Matchup LOSS
6 BYE WEEK
7 Sun. Oct. 19 1:00 pm ET Titans - - Matchup WIN
8 Sun. Oct. 26 1:00 pm ET at Jets - - Matchup WIN
9 Sun. Nov. 02 1:00 pm ET Buccaneers - - Matchup WIN
10 Sun. Nov. 09 4:15 pm ET at Chargers - - Matchup LOSS
11 Sun. Nov. 16 1:00 pm ET Saints - - Matchup LOSS
12 Sun. Nov. 23 1:00 pm ET Bills - - Matchup WIN
13 Sun. Nov. 30 4:15 pm ET at Raiders - - Matchup WIN
14 Sun. Dec. 07 4:05 pm ET at Broncos - - Matchup LOSS
15 Sun. Dec. 14 1:00 pm ET Chargers - - Matchup LOSS
16 Sun. Dec. 21 1:00 pm ET Dolphins - - Matchup WIN
17 Sun. Dec. 28 1:00 pm ET at Bengals - - Matchup WIN

10-6 finish and playoff birth!!
what will everyone be thinking when we are 6-2 going to week 10????

Oh that is right I forgot about the incredible services that Larry Johnson provided us with last year was lost thus Croyle failed to compete. What? LJ didn't do crap all season, before or after he went down. BUT.... we still managed to win games without Croyle and lose them with him. And to compare him to Elway or Aikman or Manning is an overated comparison. For when these guys played they may have lost the game but they put their team on their shoulders. One thing that Croyle doesn't have....the ability to put a team on his shoulders and the lack of....shoulders.

Call me a homer, but I honestly see us doing decently well this year. This is the way I see our season panning out.

09/14/08 Oakland Raiders Win
09/21/08 at Atlanta Falcons Win
09/28/08 Denver Broncos Win
10/05/08 at Carolina Panthers Loss
10/12/08 Bye
10/19/08 Tennessee Titans Loss
10/26/08 at New York Jets Win
11/02/08 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Loss
11/09/08 at San Diego Chargers Loss
11/16/08 New Orleans Saints Win
11/23/08 Buffalo Bills Win
11/30/08 at Oakland Raiders Win
12/07/08 at Denver Broncos Loss
12/14/08 San Diego Chargers Loss
12/21/08 Miami Dolphins Win
12/28/08 at Cincinnati Bengals Win

Your and Idiot.

Your and Idiot.

:stupid:

Their coach is Norv ****ing Turner. That means they automatically suck. He will screw it up for them somehow... maybe bench LT and Kaeding...

I'd rather be underestimated.... Last season was a big let down after going 4-3 and then 9 losses in a row. I mean, I didn't think we'd win an SB, but I was hoping for more than 4-12... I like this "If we have 6 or more wins, this is a productive season" feeling that I have. 6 wins aren't that hard to come by.... (I didn't say this last season, so I figure if I say it this one, it can't possibly hurt.... and I'm ready for the repercussions if we don't win 6 or more... this quote can be placed in my signature....)

He'll probably start, but I don't think he'll be that good. Mobile QB's are good for me. I don't like running QB's. Injuries are too common.

Really, you must me mentally challenged. How can you say that so matter-of-factly. I mean, you could have said that you don't think he has the shoulders for it or something like that. I think he wasn't given a legitimate shot last season. He needs a little more help than 2 options to throw to, especially with the leagues worst OL and literally NO running game. How can you evaluate him based on that situation. I can't think of any situation which would be worse for a QB to get his first chances to start in than our team last season.

I want some of what your smoking.

damm looks like using a regulars av will rack up some neg rep.

So you're saying that Brodie Croyle is a First Ballot Hall of Famer in waiting?



LMAO

Screw Tebow. We don't need him.

Let see where did I say that?

Anyone that compares Brodie Croyle to Troy Aikman and John Elway are comparing him to two first ballot Hall of Famers.

Croyle's had TWO years to do something, not just one. He was horrific in Pittburgh in 2006 and couldn't eek out a win in 2007.

All I can say is that I'll be happy when there can be no more excuses made for Croyle.

No where did I say, he'll be a HOFer? Don't put word in my mouth

Is that not comparing Croyle's early career to Elway & Aikman's career?

I'm comparing what they had to work with when they started, which was nothing. When they finally got the players to win they succeeded

It looks like there is a bit more elite talent in the '09 draft. Even if the Chiefs don't pick in the top five, they'll still get an elite playmaker.

I think comparing Croyle's career to two Hall of Fame QB's is tenuous at best.

Teams have been built around QB's before that couldn't succeed. Like Dilfer in Tampa Bay or Alex Smith in San Fran or David Carr in Houston. The list is endless.

There's are dozens of examples of teams that were built around a QB, only for that QB to be not worth a shit and the team had to move on.

When has Croyle had a chance with the proper tools to work with? He had no O-Line at all, HOFers would have been murdered by the OL last season.

3-13 here we come then!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5lNeKnfPIuI

Looks like a good passer to me. I'd love to get Tebow.

So you're of the opinion that Croyle is a great QB, he just needs the "tools" around him to succeed?

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that he needs the "tools" around him to have the OPPORTUNITY to succeed. No one is placing him in Canton.

What I don't understand is how Brodie Croyle was beaten out by Damon Huard with those same "tools" and how Huard was able to win 4 games (and many in this forum think he should have won 6 - Houston & Chicago) while Croyle won zero.

Are we to assume that Damon Huard would still outperform Croyle since the "tools" have been upgraded?

I can tell you exactly how Huard won 4 games and Croyle won zero: Larry Johnson. Huard lost all 4 of his starts without LJ and Croyle never had a start with him in the backfield.

So why didn't Croyle perform better in the pre-season? And why didn't he perform better or win any games when Kolby Smith was putting up 100+ yard games?

Tebow ain't an NFL QB.

This ariticle has zero credibility.

Pre-season doesn't mean shit and LJ only had 3 carries in his single game. No NFL team is going to be worried about or game plan around Kolby Smith.

I'm not saying Croyle is great - or even good. I'm just willing to reserve judgment until the 2008 season plays out.

KCinNY ain't a CP genious.

The above post has zero credibility.

I believe he has what it takes, but at the same time he should stay in college to polish his game more.

Yeah..he better polish up his patented run up the center's ass technique.

Or maybe polish up learning the UF system, because that'll help him the the league.

I don't expect us to be good at all, but if we end up picking #1 overall, you can say goodbye to Herm and Carl, and hello to a new front office.

He ran up the center's ass enough to throw for 3286 yards, 32 TDs, 67% competion % and only 6 int's with a 172.47 QB efficiency rating (2nd highest in the country) you ignoramus.

The SEC is weak...:p

;)

I think Croyle would be the first to go, especially if Tebow and Stafford declare for the draft.

Tebow was what a sophomore last year? heck he has plenty of time to fine tune his passing skills before heading to the NFL.

not to mention it was his first year getting an opportunity to play...

I really don't see how anyone can judge Croyle playing behind not only a bad line, but one of the worse that has ever seen the field in the NFL. Throw on top of that LJ being out and I'm willing to see what he does this year before passing judgement. The thing that does trouble me is the Detroit game where huard came in and lit it up after croyle got hurt, but hey if brodie struggles again this year QB will be a huge target come next years draft.

Elway had some success with crap teams around him. Shit, let's be real. A couple of those Super Bowl teams had absolutely no business being there...and they wouldn't have been if it weren't for him.