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RunKC 02-28-2013 05:20 PM

JFC I'm done hearing about how Alex Smith is an asshole because he went 1/14 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season.

WTF about Geno Smith? That mother****er went 0/10 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season and nobody says a ****ing word about it.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9452054)
JFC I'm done hearing about how Alex Smith is an asshole because he went 1/14 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season.

WTF about Geno Smith? That mother****er went 0/10 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season and nobody says a ****ing word about it.

And if Alex Smith was a rookie QB, we'd give him time to show he could improve, too.

He isn't. And he won't.

We're stuck with a douchebag who can't throw the ball down the field.

ratchet 02-28-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by youranidiot (Post 9452051)
Negative ghost rider.

U can't say he's horrible. No professional or player in nfl thinks he sucks. Just be rational and admit he's decent. that's all we're saying. He's just good. Not great.

Red Dawg 02-28-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9451712)
please tell me who these stud WRs and CBs are and why they would come to KC

especially when a turd like Chris Canty just scoffed at us

Money and Andy

Frosty 02-28-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9451908)
And boom goes the dynamite.

http://i.imgur.com/p4MZ8FK.jpg

Do you have the same splits for Cassel over 2011 and 2012? Can't imagine that they are very good but am curious.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 05:34 PM

They're terrible, obviously.

The point of the argument that Smith's best is no better, and in fact worse in several ways, than Cassel's best.

R8RFAN 02-28-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452096)
They're terrible, obviously.

The point of the argument that Smith's best is no better, and in fact worse in several ways, than Cassel's best.


I told you Cassel was a good QB

RunKC 02-28-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452061)
And if Alex Smith was a rookie QB, we'd give him time to show he could improve, too.

He isn't. And he won't.

We're stuck with a douchebag who can't throw the ball down the field.

I'm still thinking we draft a developmental QB to take over.

Sorter 02-28-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9452092)
Money and Andy

Again, what stud FA WRs/CBs are you getting?

Greg "I'm ****ing hurt 24/7 and old" Jennings? ROFL

Frosty 02-28-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452096)
They're terrible, obviously.

The point of the argument that Smith's best is no better, and in fact worse in several ways, than Cassel's best.

Figured. It's amazing how many people say you can only compare the last two years, like Cassel under Muir and Daboll is going to improve. :rolleyes:

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 05:48 PM

The Film Room bringing the pain.

http://echointhehead.blogspot.com/20....html?spref=tw

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Who is Alex Smith?

Since 2005 up until a week ago I could care less to answer that question. He was a QB that San Francisco allowed to be pursued by the Dolphins...who ended up taking Tannehill instead. He was a QB that took his team to the front door of the Super Bowl, and a back-up to a QB that kicked the door in the next season.

Did you ever really want Alex Smith last year...did Miami...did San Fran? The answer is no...two teams passed...not for Manning, not for RG3, not for Luck...two teams passed for Tannehill and Kaepernick. Up until a week ago...how badly did you want Alex Smith?

San Fran and Miami worked Smith out, was up close and personal...the Chiefs made this choice at a time when they could have no contact. Smith was never an Eagle...he was never a Packer...if this choice is that important...get him in a room.

Sure Reid has contacts...but why choose a QB...a QB two teams passed on...without checking it out for yourself?

The stats lie...sure Smith's %'s and rating increased under Harbaugh...but his usage decreased. The two years under Harbaugh...San Fran ranked 31st in the NFL in pass attempts. San Fran was defined by defense and the power game.

The thing that bothers me about this situation. Reid's offense is dependent on the Quarterback to make plays. Even under Harbaugh...while Smith's rating increased...the TD's, the yardage really didn't. All indications do not point to an improved QB...points to an improved scheme to mask the QB.

The biggest issue with Smith is the lack of understanding where the numbers come from. The INT's decreased...the rating rose...but the sacks he took nearly doubled. This particular change is reflected in the rating...he didn't improve as a passer...he simply stopped making mistakes.

Make no mistake...we didn't get a good QB...we got the same QB by and large that was on the open market that few were clamoring for. We got a QB that has learned how to not make mistakes, in an offense that didn't ask him to throw much. That situation has changed...and it's important.

This isn't a brilliant move by Dorsey and Reid...it's a safe one. The film has been out for years...there is no re-writing Alex Smith's history. He's marginally better than we've had, and he's a vet with success...but he's not special.

People act like I'm not supposed to question...but in my heart...this move isn't one I can grip. I hope it works out, but I think it's a safe move...not the best move for the Kansas City Chiefs.

youranidiot 02-28-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452140)

Have you come to grips with it yet: Alex Smith #11 Chiefs starting QB!

MGRS13 02-28-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452096)
They're terrible, obviously.

The point of the argument that Smith's best is no better, and in fact worse in several ways, than Cassel's best.

This! The trade off is he is not as tough as Cassel so we won't have to watch him flounder for long. Who ever the backup is in KC will probably play 3 to 5 games next year. All we can do now is hope that backup is some one drafted with the 3rd pick this year and happens to be good.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 09:38 PM

Here's a bone-chilling fact:

The 49ers have been no higher than 25th in third-down conversion percentage for Alex Smith's entire career.

32nd
26th
32nd
29th
29th
31st
25th

moveoveralex 03-01-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452927)
Here's a bone-chilling fact:

The 49ers have been no higher than 25th in third-down conversion percentage for Alex Smith's entire career.

32nd
26th
32nd
29th
29th
31st
25th



Exactly why so many niner fans were hoping he would be gone a long time ago.

That stat did NOT improve much under Harbaugh. The niners won a LOT of games last year thanks to the leg of David Akers. He set the record for field-goals last year. We won a TON of games scoring in the teens and having our D get turnovers. We had one of the highest turnover ratios ever recorded last year.

Alex didn't lose us games. THAT is the point. We relied on special teams, defense and not turning the ball over to get to the championship game. It was when we got down big/early that the true Alex showed. He is not capable of overcoming big deficits. His third down percentage is low because he is so afraid of making a bad throw that he immediatly goes to the checkdown if the first read is covered.

Alex has never been accurate on his second reads. If he has to move in the pocket he loses sight of the field. He panicks. He doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field.

If not for Vernon Davis, we would have not even made the playoffs. Alex can hit the wheel route like nobody else, but the reason it worked so well for the niners is Davis' speed. He's the fastest TE in the NFL. Alex will NOT make those throws to your TEs unless they are WIDE open.

He completed 1 pass....................ONE PASS to a wr in the NFCCG last year. He reverted to captain checkdown in the biggest game of his career.


I don't hate the guy, but I am very happy he's gone.


I'm just trying to prepare you guys for what is coming. Your punter will become the MVP of the team. If your defense can get turnovers and your special-teams units can score some points you have a chance at the playoffs, but you will never win a SB with Alex Smith.


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