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Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 12:45 PM

Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.
 
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexcassel.gif

http://i.imgur.com/MwBEnUp.jpg

hometeam 02-27-2013 12:47 PM

And so it begins.

In58men 02-27-2013 12:48 PM

This is franchise is embarrassing.


Raiders > Chiefs



It's official.

L.A. Chieffan 02-27-2013 12:48 PM

Can you please post the Geno Smith INT and ugly GIFs now for comparison sakes?

B14ckmon 02-27-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9445603)
Can you please post the Geno Smith INT and ugly GIFs now for comparison sakes?

Yea right. He wouldn't even show a gif of Geno's horrible sail pass to the stands at the combine.

SPATCH 02-27-2013 12:54 PM

In

TheGuardian 02-27-2013 12:56 PM

I remember when the 9ers won that comeback playoff game against the Saints, and how dipshits on here said he finally was a franchise QB.

F'n morons.

Rasputin 02-27-2013 12:58 PM

I bet he doesn't even like KC BBQ.

**** you San pillowbitercisco quarterbacks.

BigMeatballDave 02-27-2013 01:00 PM

Hey, in 10 years we get to trade for Kaepernick.

KurtCobain 02-27-2013 01:01 PM

You're being ignorant.

BigMeatballDave 02-27-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 9445664)
I remember when the 9ers won that comeback playoff game against the Saints, and how dipshits on here said he finally was a franchise QB.

F'n morons.

LOL I don't remember that.

Dave Lane 02-27-2013 01:01 PM

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KurtCobain 02-27-2013 01:17 PM

Alex Smith killed it in that saints playoff game, which makes him loads better than cassel. That was one of the greatest games I've ever watched.

noa 02-27-2013 01:18 PM

And so begins my next four years of fandom. I will be relegated to laughing at how spectacular our fail gifs are.

KC native 02-27-2013 01:42 PM

In.

Thig Lyfe 02-27-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9445599)
And so it begins.

Might as well get a head start.

ptlyon 02-27-2013 01:45 PM

This thread will live for decades

Thig Lyfe 02-27-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9446077)
This thread will live for decades

I look forward to watching it grow and thrive.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 01:51 PM

In the last 4 years Alex Smith has only three 300-yard games.

Cassel had four.

Flacco had 13.

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Dave Lane 02-27-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9445599)
And so it begins.

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Fat Elvis 02-27-2013 01:57 PM

Weeeeeeee

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 02:08 PM

The peanut gallery is already e-mailing me with ammo.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2v3o9qg.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-27-2013 02:09 PM

Hey, remember that rumor about Pitt possibly being in the market for a new QB to groom? If They somehow manuver to get Geno, my fandom becomes a complete ****ing no-brainer.
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prhom 02-27-2013 02:13 PM

Here's a question: We have been assuming that Reid will install his pass-happy offense here in KC and needs a QB that can handle that workload. Now that he's picked up Alex Smith, who is not a prolific passer, does this mean that he's going to change philosophy and try to run the ball more?

Oh and **** Alex Smith.

Namor40 02-27-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9445589)
.....



Of course you didn't mention that he had a broken finger on his throwing hand in that game. Realistically he shouldn't have been out there as that was his worst game in 3+ years.


Look up highlights of his passing at the end of the Saints game in the playoffs, he's one of the best in the NFL at making plays when it counts, running a two minute offense and a no-huddle. Andy Reid is a known QB guru and he LOVES Alex Smith.


He also just spent a week at the Combine, meeting with and watching college QB prospects, if he makes this move now, maybe, just maybe, these prospects aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

stonedstooge 02-27-2013 02:19 PM

Casshole replaced by Smiff

HemiEd 02-27-2013 02:23 PM

They have a #1 overall pick for a QB now. Why aren't we happy?/Reid-Hunt

htismaqe 02-27-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9446391)
He also just spent a week at the Combine, meeting with and watching college QB prospects, if he makes this move now, maybe, just maybe, these prospects aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

It's also possible that Andy Reid is just a ****ing moron.

htismaqe 02-27-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 9446346)
Here's a question: We have been assuming that Reid will install his pass-happy offense here in KC and needs a QB that can handle that workload. Now that he's picked up Alex Smith, who is not a prolific passer, does this mean that he's going to change philosophy and try to run the ball more?

Oh and **** Alex Smith.

That's gonna be awesome.

Andy Reid comes to KC and plays MARTYBALL.

ROFL

prhom 02-27-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9446447)
That's gonna be awesome.

Andy Reid comes to KC and plays MARTYBALL.

ROFL

Seriously though, I just assumed that Reid was sticking to what he did in the past. Has he actually said that he will? If so, Alex Smith seems like a bad choice for that system. Alex Smith is "perfect" for the R2P2 slap-dick offense we've been running for the last however many years it's been.

My head may completely explode if we draft DL and Reid holds a presser to say "we're going to run the ball and play tough defense, I was wrong to pass the ball so much while I was in Philly".

BigChiefFan 02-27-2013 02:40 PM

I absolutely hate the bullshit this team puts it's fans through.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 03:08 PM

Here are the quarterbacks Alex Smith compares to.

Matt Cassel, Elvis Grbac and Bill Kenney are included!

SHITLIST


http://i.imgur.com/WZmpCaI.jpg

Kerberos 02-27-2013 03:14 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...their-options/


Chiefs decision to trade for Smith says plenty about their optionsPosted by Mike Florio on February 27, 2013, 3:40 PM EST

Last year, when Alex Smith was an unrestricted free agent, the Chiefs didn’t make a play for him. This year, they opted to send the 34th overall pick in the draft and a conditional selection in 2014 to San Francisco in order to secure the final two years of his contract.

So what does this all mean? Let’s break it down.

First, it means that coach Andy Reid concluded during his time to date on the job that Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn, and Ricky Stanzi aren’t the answer. (When Reid was on PFT Live last month, he left the door open regarding the possibility of giving the job to one of the men on the roster.)

Second, it means that the Chiefs didn’t like any of the available free-agent options in 2013. If they did, they would have signed a guy and in turn kept their picks.

Third, it means that there was no one else they wanted to acquire via trade with a lesser package of picks.

Fourth, and finally, it means that the Chiefs not only decided that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their first-round pick but also that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their second-round pick.

Regardless, then, of how well Smith plays (or doesn’t) for the Chiefs, the deal means that the Chiefs have considered giving up a second-round pick and another pick in the future for the 49ers’ No. 2 quarterback to be a better option than any other option that was available to the team.

Which means, frankly, that the Chiefs really didn’t believe they had any other options.

Namor40 02-27-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 9446875)




Fourth, and finally, it means that the Chiefs not only decided that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their first-round pick but also that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their second-round pick.

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I'd say this is a wakeup call to the Geno Smith Kool-Aid drinkers who act like he's Joe Montana in black, but I'm not that optimistic that they'll see the reality of the situation.

Bottomline, this is a bad year for QBs in the draft, not a single one of them is ready to start, so unless people fancied the Chiefs with someone like Matt Moore at the helm next year, this about as good as it could have been for them in terms of having a quarterback.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 03:18 PM

Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points:

2-27-1

Sorter 02-27-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9446914)
Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points:

2-27-1

Holy shit.

Wow.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 03:31 PM

And one of those wins was the playoff game. The other was against the shitty Rams.

Predarat 02-27-2013 03:35 PM

He is still better then cAssHole. Maybe.

WilliamTheIrish 02-27-2013 03:35 PM

Just want to get in on the bottom floor of this.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 03:58 PM

The reasoning used by many for this trade is that "Alex was good under Jim"

Alex averaged 187.7 YPG under Jim.

Here are the season YPG for the recent SB winning QBs.

Flacco - 238.6
Manning - 308.3
Rodgers - 261.5
Brees - 292.5
Roethlisberger - 206.3
Manning - 208.5
Manning - 274.5
Roethlisberger - 198.8
Brady - 230.8
Brady - 226.8
Johnson - 234.5
Brady - 189.5
Dilfer - 136.5
Warner - 272.5
Elway - 215.8
Elway - 227.2
Favre - 243.3

Predarat 02-27-2013 04:06 PM

Doug Gottlieb just said all the Alex Smith h8rs are W-R-O-N-G!

BlackHelicopters 02-27-2013 04:06 PM

Blaine Gabbert> Alex Smith

R8RFAN 02-27-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9445599)
And so it begins.

can I have your signature now?

Rausch 02-27-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9446441)
It's also possible that Andy Reid is just a ****ing moron.

Considering that he likes to have his QB/Passing game carry his offense this move is full-retart...

Namor40 02-27-2013 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=Rausch;9447305]Considering that he likes to have his QB/Passing game carry his offense this move is full-retart...[/QUOTE]





Pretty sure Andy Reid knows better than some randoms on an internet forum who only act like they get paid for their opinions.

PhatAzzCrennel 02-27-2013 04:15 PM

Oh yeah let's bash a QB who hasn't even played a game for us yet. Smh @ some of the people on this thread

Setsuna 02-27-2013 04:16 PM

YES TO THIS THREAD! In b4 trolls...wait nvm. Reiterating the OP. ALEX SMITH DID, DOES, AND ALWAYS WILL SUCK!

Setsuna 02-27-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9445822)
Alex Smith killed it in that saints playoff game, which makes him loads better than cassel. That was one of the greatest games I've ever watched.

The Saints just had the worst defense statistically last season. You sir are stupid.

Rausch 02-27-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9447329)

Pretty sure Andy Reid knows better than some randoms on an internet forum who only act like they get paid for their opinions.

This is the same bs logic used when Pioli traded for Ca$$hole.

Stupid is stupid.

bevischief 02-27-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9446911)
I'd say this is a wakeup call to the Geno Smith Kool-Aid drinkers who act like he's Joe Montana in black, but I'm not that optimistic that they'll see the reality of the situation.

Bottomline, this is a bad year for QBs in the draft, not a single one of them is ready to start, so unless people fancied the Chiefs with someone like Matt Moore at the helm next year, this about as good as it could have been for them in terms of having a quarterback.

But Matt Moore wouldn't have cost 2 draft picks and cheaper too.

PhatAzzCrennel 02-27-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandusksuna (Post 9447374)
The Saints just had the worst defense statistically last season. You sir are stupid.

Smith had a 104.1 passer rating so STFU

saphojunkie 02-27-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhatAzzCrennel (Post 9447386)
Smith had a 104.1 passer rating so STFU

Go **** yourself.

Smith is so ****ing good that no one ****ing signed him as a free agent last year.

You're a ****ing moron.

PhatAzzCrennel 02-27-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9447402)
Go **** yourself.

Smith is so ****ing good that no one ****ing signed him as a free agent last year.

You're a ****ing moron.

lol the good ole "if he's so good why didn't so and so sign him?" LOL **** OUT OF HERE

Namor40 02-27-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9447381)
But Matt Moore wouldn't have cost 2 draft picks and cheaper too.


You also have no chance of playoffs with Matt Moore. Give Alex Smith a good running game, a supportive head coach and he'll run with it. There's no reason this team can't make it to the playoffs, they've got a few holes to fill in, but they've got a solid defense, a good QB, a great RB, good coaching, its all there, but there's so many pessimists here that they're only responding in emotional and visceral fashion rather than looking at the potential that is right there before their eyes.

Dayze 02-27-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhatAzzCrennel (Post 9447347)
Oh yeah let's bash a QB who hasn't even played a game for us yet. Smh @ some of the people on this thread

if you can't understand the concerns people have with this , then you should go into your closet and light your own farts with your Alex Smith lighter.

PhatAzzCrennel 02-27-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9447420)
You also have no chance of playoffs with Matt Moore. Give Alex Smith a good running game, a supportive head coach and he'll run with it. There's no reason this team can't make it to the playoffs, they've got a few holes to fill in, but they've got a solid defense, a good QB, a great RB, good coaching, its all there, but there's so many pessimists here that they're only responding in emotional and visceral fashion rather than looking at the potential that is right there before their eyes.

THANK YOU. Some people in here are just dumb

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9447329)
Pretty sure Andy Reid knows better than some randoms on an internet forum who only act like they get paid for their opinions.

Fallacious appeal to authority spotted. Crisis center alerted.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhatAzzCrennel (Post 9447347)
Oh yeah let's bash a QB who hasn't even played a game for us yet. Smh @ some of the people on this thread

You say he hasn't played a game for us.

I say he's been playing for us since 1995.

Rausch 02-27-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9447465)
You say he hasn't played a game for us.

I say he's been playing for us since 1995.

This...

Namor40 02-27-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9447434)
Fallacious appeal to authority spotted. Crisis center alerted.


"This guy with an online medical degree from the University of Manila said that taking heavy amounts of arsenic is good for my health"

"Maybe you should talk to an actual doctor first."

"FALLACIOUS APPEAL TO AUTHORITY, YOU'RE WRONG."



Another internet e-scout who didn't get a million dollar+ a year job working in the NFL due to "politics", when you get paid for your opinion, and paid well at that, I'll give you the slightest amount of credibility, otherwise you're just another random person going on an emotional rant.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-27-2013 04:32 PM

Oklahoma Joe's Creme Brulee is sooooooooo nervous.

Easy 6 02-27-2013 04:34 PM

Reid must be planning a total overhaul of his offensive style... i thought we were going to Bomb City with this guy.

Instead we're getting a Rich Gannon 2.0 Duke of Dink attack... hard to figure this move, its like Reid has turned his back on his high flying past.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 05:03 PM

Oh my ****ing God.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...vs-matt-cassel

Quote:

Smith's unofficial trade from San Francisco to Kansas City invited comparisons between Smith and recent Chiefs starting quarterback Matt Cassel. Smith was much better than Cassel during the 2012 season. He has much better traditional passing stats over the past two seasons. But as the chart shows, Cassel and Smith have identical Total QBR scores over the past five years. They were at 46.6. All starting quarterbacks were at 53.0 over that period. ()

Cassel was slightly ahead of Smith, 46.4 to 45.8, when only starts were considered. (We are ****ed)

Tribal Warfare 02-27-2013 05:05 PM

Don't you just love the ****in national media is cum guzzling Alex Smith because it benefits the 49ers.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 06:13 PM

Even 49ers fans know he sucks.

Quote:

Alex will play fine, but he's definitely limited in what he can do.

He cannot throw the ball downfield with any accuracy. He cannot get through his progressions quickly enough and winds up checking the ball down way too often.

His third down percentage and yards/attempt are awful. He will make very inaccurate throws at crucial times and he tends to miss the rbs on his checkdowns.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 10:10 PM

http://i.imgur.com/XThLo5a.jpg

Molitoth 02-27-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9449316)

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Tribal Warfare 02-27-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9448086)
Even 49ers fans know he sucks.

and quite honestly we are back to the Bono/Grbac era again............... whooopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

New World Order 02-27-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9449316)


LMAO

#1 Bronco's Fan 02-27-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9449316)

Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating

Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

TimeForWasp 02-27-2013 10:48 PM

I'm ok with Smith on the team. I'm not ok with losing our 2nd pick which would be a QB.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 11:29 PM

https://twitter.com/TheFilmRoom is absolutely destroying Alex Smith and this trade today. Give him a follow.

@TheFilmRoom

Nuance with Alex Smith's motion is he doesn't get extended. Negative motion in windup...at 6'4" releases point is next to head.

@TheFilmRoom

Similar to Brady Quinn in that respect. Drops ball to waist...limiting forward motion/release point...hurts ability to manipulate passes.

@TheFilmRoom

Reason extension is important is a QB gives the wrist more range of motion. From the wrist manipulate trajectory, speed, release.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2013 11:33 PM

@TheFilmRoom

Smith can't be made out to be a savior...it's pretty evident who he is. It's who Cassel was supposed to be last year...don't get in the way.

@TheFilmRoom

Smith in my mind can speed up our passing game. Have reservations if we gain any more versatility vertically. It's a plus, but not a big one

‏@TheFilmRoom

@CravenMorhead Cassel had 96 passes over 10 yards...Smith 46.

@TheFilmRoom

Have fun...you will only need one hand to count the win total Alex Smith has when opponent scored more than 24.

@TheFilmRoom

Let's not draft a QB because he's not elite...let's just grab the non-elite veteran QB and lineman. -Chiefs for eternity

@TheFilmRoom

@getnickwright we capped ourself off again at that spot...the arm alone is going to handcuff the passing game and things we are able to do.

@TheFilmRoom

Show of hands...who has watched Alex Smith throw...watched this draft class throw...and still feel Smith skill set as a passer is superior?

prhom 02-27-2013 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9449701)

@TheFilmRoom

Let's not draft a QB because he's not elite...let's just grab the non-elite veteran QB and lineman.

This is my favorite one. It's so true. Everything is now right in the universe. It was starting to get weird there for a while. It seemed like we were going to be forced into taking a QB in the draft. Now we can all relax and start talking about whether to go OL or DL with our first pick.

I'll be damned if Clark isn't an expert at taking away all hope from a fan base.

Sorter 02-27-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 9449723)
This is my favorite one. It's so true. Everything is now right in the universe. It was starting to get weird there for a while. It seemed like we were going to be forced into taking a QB in the draft. Now we can all relax and start talking about whether to go OL or DL with our first pick.

I'll be damned if Clark isn't an expert at taking away all hope from a fan base.

He's like a magician.

Thig Lyfe 02-28-2013 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobet selur (Post 9449484)
Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating

Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

brb killing myself

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-28-2013 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9446447)
That's gonna be awesome.

Andy Reid comes to KC and plays MARTYBALL.

ROFL

dude, WHATWAS MY FIRST POST ABOUT THAT MOTHER****ER???? WHO DID I COMPARE HIM TO???? Everyone thinks im a goddamned idiot, but remember; I CALLED THAT SHIT.
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Setsuna 02-28-2013 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhatAzzCrennel (Post 9447386)
Smith had a 104.1 passer rating so STFU

LMAO that furthers my case you piece of shit. Think about it for a second and give me that useless stat again.

BigChiefFan 02-28-2013 01:20 AM

This is a ****ing train wreck. I'm flabbergasted at how shitty our franchise is. Ineptness abounds.

Hootie 02-28-2013 02:04 AM

he posted three .gifs from the sole bad game Alex Smith played all year...

I just want to point that out.

Smith also had a QBR game of 99.8 this season (that was probably tops in the league) and another one of 92+...

so we can bash Smith and hate the trade (deservedly so), but he is a massive upgrade to our team which doesn't really mean anything because I doubt in today's NFL you can win anything of importance with Alex Smith at QB.


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