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Halfcan 04-29-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by QFFL (Post 10591852)
Most of the mock drafts let us take a WR in the first round. I actually prefer to wait on WRs. I believe the 2nd tier WRs after Watkins and Evans are not that far apart from 3rd tier WRs.

I am confident Andy Reid will be able to find a very good one in the 2nd or even 3rd round.

:shake: :rolleyes:

Welcome to the Planet!

BlackHelicopters 04-29-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by QFFL (Post 10591852)
Most of the mock drafts let us take a WR in the first round. I actually prefer to wait on WRs. I believe the 2nd tier WRs after Watkins and Evans are not that far apart from 3rd tier WRs.

I am confident Andy Reid will be able to find a very good one in the 2nd or even 3rd round.

:facepalm:

RunKC 04-29-2014 09:33 PM

I'm actually shocked that Jarvis Landry hasn't gotten any first round buzz. I don't give a shit about his timed 4.77 forty. His tape is very good and if Odell Beckham wasn't getting all the attention, he'd be way higher up with more production.

This kid is has the best hands in the draft.

Saccopoo 04-29-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10594263)
I'm actually shocked that Jarvis Landry hasn't gotten any first round buzz. I don't give a shit about his timed 4.77 forty. His tape is very good and if Odell Beckham wasn't getting all the attention, he'd be way higher up with more production.

This kid is has the best hands in the draft.

He's totally overhyped.

The dude couldn't jump over a phone book, is short and runs a 4.8 40. I'm actually shocked that guys have in him the first three rounds.

You want to draft a guy that has fantastic hands, runs great routes and put up sick production in college, and has a real man's body/frame then go get BYU's Cody Hoffman. He's the exact same guy as Landry, with the exception of being 5" taller, 20+ lbs. heavier and faster (4.65 vs. Landry's 4.77 40 yard dash). Might even be there in the fifth/sixth round versus pissing a third or fourth rounder away on Landry.

If this team drafts ****ing Jarvis Landry with anything other than a UDFA contract, Imma gunna be pissed. **** that.

OldSchool 04-29-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10594378)
He's totally overhyped.

The dude couldn't jump over a phone book, is short and runs a 4.8 40. I'm actually shocked that guys have in him the first three rounds.

You want to draft a guy that has fantastic hands, runs great routes and put up sick production in college, and has a real man's body/frame then go get BYU's Cody Hoffman. He's the exact same guy as Landry, with the exception of being 5" taller, 20+ lbs. heavier and faster (4.65 vs. Landry's 4.77 40 yard dash). Might even be there in the fifth/sixth round versus pissing a third or fourth rounder away on Landry.

If this team drafts ****ing Jarvis Landry with anything other than a UDFA contract, Imma gunna be pissed. **** that.

Hoffman's hands are shit compared to Landry's. No WR in this draft has better hands and is better at catching through contact than Landry is. That's why so many people rate him much higher than his tested numbers might indicate.

Chiefshrink 04-29-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10591385)
I was amazed just looking at Cooks and Bekham's combine video. Cooks was playing so much faster than everyone else (watch from 18s mark).

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Yep ! Said this from the first day I saw Cooks run the gauntlet at the combine. He has Barry Sanders 'water bug' stop/start burst and agility without losing any speed. Not to mention elite speed with great hands.

Saccopoo 04-29-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10594530)
Hoffman's hands are shit compared to Landry's. No WR in this draft has better hands and is better at catching through contact than Landry is. That's why so many people rate him much higher than his tested numbers might indicate.

That's super. I'm glad he's honed that "catching through contact" skill because that's all he'll be able to do as he'll be blanketed by every/anybody on the defensive side of the ball as he's short, slow and can't jump. Exactly what I'd love to spend a draft pick on, especially at the wide receiver position.

Let's see the positives:

Good hands

Negatives:

Short
Slow
Can't Jump
One Year Starter
Piled up stats opposite of Odell Beckham

Sounds like a potential first rounder to me, especially in this draft where there are a bunch of 6'3" guys who run a 4.4 40 and have 36" verticals with very good college production behind those measurables.

OldSchool 04-30-2014 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10594644)
That's super. I'm glad he's honed that "catching through contact" skill because that's all he'll be able to do as he'll be blanketed by every/anybody on the defensive side of the ball as he's short, slow and can't jump. Exactly what I'd love to spend a draft pick on, especially at the wide receiver position.

Let's see the positives:

Good hands

Negatives:

Short
Slow
Can't Jump
One Year Starter
Piled up stats opposite of Odell Beckham

Sounds like a potential first rounder to me, especially in this draft where there are a bunch of 6'3" guys who run a 4.4 40 and have 36" verticals with very good college production behind those measurables.

Who said anything about the 1st round? At worst Landry is Jason Avant in the NFL, a reliable slot guy who moves the chains on 3rd downs. At best he's the next Hines Ward or Anquan Boldin who, guess what, also happened to run a 4.7 at the combine.

You'd be a fool if you watched his tape and came away thinking that he was actually a 4.7 guy on the field and just an Ok receiver. Last year's rookie sensation, Keenan Allen, clocked a 4.71 at his pro day.

Kiimo 04-30-2014 01:57 PM

Strengths:
Explosive play-maker
Very fast
Consistently gets separation
Weapon on third down
Great hands
Intelligent
Stretches the defense
Forces teams to keep a safety deep
Quick release off of the line
Excellent route runner
Tough
Short, but strong
Plug and play; ready to contribute as a slot receiver
High floor
Upside

Weaknesses:
Very short
Short wing span



I am IN ON COOKS.

Sfeihc 04-30-2014 02:53 PM

Cooks, Beckham or Lee it doesn't matter to me........

Discuss Thrower 04-30-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 10595693)
Cooks, Beckham or Lee it doesn't matter to me........

.. especially since the Chiefs are gonna take an Oh-Gee!

saphojunkie 04-30-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10595708)
.. especially since the Chiefs are gonna take an Oh-Gee!

Marquise Lee grew up in south central, so I think he qualifies.

Kiimo 04-30-2014 05:37 PM

Does Cooks remind anyone else of Percy Harvin? Would you take a young healthy Percy Harvin on this team?


COOKS

OldSchool 04-30-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10595961)
Does Cooks remind anyone else of Percy Harvin? Would you take a young healthy Percy Harvin on this team?


COOKS

Cooks is small with an equally small catch radius. In the right system, he can flourish primarily as a slot receiver who doesn't have to face press coverage too often. Or he could end up having a Tavon Austin-esque rookie season and struggle to do anything notable as a receiver.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2014 09:39 PM

Who were the last under 6 foot receivers drafted in the first who went on to have a good NFL career?

Desean Smith? Steve Smith?


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