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Marada 01-04-2013 11:28 AM

I Predict The 2013 QB's To Be
 
The Chiefs recognise that there needs to be a shakeout at the QB position. I'll go out on a limb and predict that the QB roster for 2013 will be, in no certain order.

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

2- Ricki Stanzi The guy must have some talent to remain on the roster. There is a history of skill position players blooming when they actually get a fair chance.

3- Alex Tanney Just on the strength of his arm he can make it in the NFL. Best part is we already have him.

The Franchise 01-04-2013 11:28 AM

A shakeout at the QB position.......so you bring back 2 from this year?

I don't see ANY of our current QBs being on the roster next year.

Exoter175 01-04-2013 11:28 AM

I was with you until the Alex Tanney bit.

The guy will go nowhere in the NFL.

Exoter175 01-04-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9280051)
A shakeout at the QB position.......so you bring back 2 from this year?

I don't see ANY of our current QBs being on the roster next year.

Stanzi will undoubtedly be there.

In58men 01-04-2013 11:29 AM

Geno Smith

Logan Thomas in the later rounds

DeezNutz 01-04-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280057)
Stanzi will undoubtedly be there.

Yeah, we'll see about this. Don't care, but I also don't think the kid can play for shit.

The Franchise 01-04-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280057)
Stanzi will undoubtedly be there.

You expect a 5th round pick of the prior regime to stick around? Even though he couldn't get activated during the Cassel/Quinn era?

L.A. Chieffan 01-04-2013 11:30 AM

Vick is a package deal with Andy

Molitoth 01-04-2013 11:31 AM

It's a QB driven league and Geno is the best prospect.
If we trade down, it's because someone wants in that #1 spot for Geno Smith. I don't see any way he is still available at #10. If that were the case, then HELLS YEAH!!!!

But honestly, if Geno is the guy you would want at #10... don't take the chance, just get him at #1.


Stanzi and Tanney will be cut.

Scorp 01-04-2013 11:31 AM

I definately see Geno as the pick.

I also see Vick being brought in on a one year deal. (I don't want this though)

DaKCMan AP 01-04-2013 11:31 AM

No.

Ace Gunner 01-04-2013 11:31 AM

Tough call. I still believe Geno has the smarts & nerve to play at this level, so I'll go with Geno.

mr. tegu 01-04-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marada (Post 9280041)
The Chiefs recognise that there needs to be a shakeout at the QB position. I'll go out on a limb and predict that the QB roster for 2013 will be, in no certain order.

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

2- Ricki Stanzi The guy must have some talent to remain on the roster. There is a history of skill position players blooming when they actually get a fair chance.

3- Alex Tanney Just on the strength of his arm he can make it in the NFL. Best part is we already have him.

No team is going to trade up and NOT take Geno Smith. Otherwise they likely aren't trading up to our spot.

Bottom line Geno willl not be available past the second pick despite what the idiots out there say.

Exoter175 01-04-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9280061)
Yeah, we'll see about this. Don't care, but I also don't think the kid can play for shit.

Based on what? This last pre-season where he was given a jailbreak every snap, or the one before that where he was our best QB?

The year before last, when he was a rookie, Crennel was going to start Stanzi. Pioli picked up Orton and Stanzi didn't get his chance.

You've literally got nothing to go off of, other than "well clearly if he didn't play, he must be bad". Which could be one of the most idiotic comments ever spoken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9280063)
You expect a 5th round pick of the prior regime to stick around? Even though he couldn't get activated during the Cassel/Quinn era?

Yeah, I do. He's the best QB on the roster. More importantly, you're talking about a regime that was deadset at having Cassel as their guy and wanting nothing to do with a legitimate QB competition.
Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9280065)
Vick is a package deal with Andy

No he isn't.

HonestChieffan 01-04-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9280065)
Vick is a package deal with Andy


god no

J Diddy 01-04-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9280070)
It's a QB driven league and Geno is the best prospect.
If we trade down, it's because someone wants in that #1 spot for Geno Smith. I don't see any way he is still available at #10. If that were the case, then HELLS YEAH!!!!

But honestly, if Geno is the guy you would want at #10... don't take the chance, just get him at #1.


Stanzi and Tanney will be cut.

I don't think that there will be a clear cut guy. That being said, I absolutely see them moving down.

tyton75 01-04-2013 11:37 AM

I really think the 1st overall pick will be a LT. Esp with the sub-par QB class this year. QB pick is going to be 2nd round.

Bump 01-04-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marada (Post 9280041)

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.
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DeezNutz 01-04-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280088)
Based on what?

You've literally got nothing to go off of, other than "well clearly if he didn't play, he must be bad". Which could be one of the most idiotic comments ever spoken.

Based on the fact that I thought he was a shit prospect coming out of college. Based on the fact that most 5th-round QBs end up being shit in the NFL, and based on the fact that almost every report out of training camp this past season stated that he, definitively, didn't look like an NFL QB.

the Talking Can 01-04-2013 11:40 AM

reid will take one look at our QBs and shit his adult diaper with laughter...

BlackHelicopters 01-04-2013 11:40 AM

Complete house cleaning. Replacements? Don't know.

DMAC 01-04-2013 11:40 AM

Why would anyone want any current QBs to stay on?

Blow them all up.

Geno
Veteran
Other draft pick

Red Beans 01-04-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9280147)
Why would anyone want any current QBs to stay on?

Blow them all up.

Geno
Veteran
Other draft pick

Logic prevails!

The Franchise 01-04-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280088)
Based on what? This last pre-season where he was given a jailbreak every snap, or the one before that where he was our best QB?

The year before last, when he was a rookie, Crennel was going to start Stanzi. Pioli picked up Orton and Stanzi didn't get his chance.

You've literally got nothing to go off of, other than "well clearly if he didn't play, he must be bad". Which could be one of the most idiotic comments ever spoken.



Yeah, I do. He's the best QB on the roster. More importantly, you're talking about a regime that was deadset at having Cassel as their guy and wanting nothing to do with a legitimate QB competition.


No he isn't.

You don't think that Pioli would have jumped at the chance of starting Stanzi if he was any good? Pioli would have looked smart as **** for finding a starting QB in the 5th round. He didn't start because he sucked in camp and practices.

Chief Roundup 01-04-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marada (Post 9280041)
1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

I just don't see how the most important position on the field will last that long.
There are too many teams having success with their rookie or 2cd year QBs to ignore the position if you are at the top of the draft.
There are several teams right behind us that are in desperate need of a QB.
Even if a team views the top 3 equally there is a very low probability that one of those guys makes it to 10.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-04-2013 11:43 AM

Geno
Fitzpatrick
Stanzi/Renfree

mr. tegu 01-04-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280088)
Based on what? This last pre-season where he was given a jailbreak every snap, or the one before that where he was our best QB?

The year before last, when he was a rookie, Crennel was going to start Stanzi. Pioli picked up Orton and Stanzi didn't get his chance.

You've literally got nothing to go off of, other than "well clearly if he didn't play, he must be bad". Which could be one of the most idiotic comments ever spoken.



Yeah, I do. He's the best QB on the roster. More importantly, you're talking about a regime that was deadset at having Cassel as their guy and wanting nothing to do with a legitimate QB competition.


No he isn't.

All we need to know about Stanzi and why is sucks, even if we look at nothing else, is that he was drafted by Pioli. That tells you everything you need to know.

bevischief 01-04-2013 11:45 AM

I don't as long as Cassel/Quinn aren't on the team and Geno is here. If Stanzi and Tanney make it, it doesn't bother me yet. Let's see what a real coaching staff can do with them.

htismaqe 01-04-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9280151)
You don't think that Pioli would have jumped at the chance of starting Stanzi if he was any good? Pioli would have looked smart as **** for finding a starting QB in the 5th round. He didn't start because he sucked in camp and practices.

First you'd have to assume that Pioli and his band of tards knew how to evaluate QBs.

htismaqe 01-04-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9280147)
Why would anyone want any current QBs to stay on?

Blow them all up.

Geno
Veteran
Other draft pick

This.

Rasputin 01-04-2013 11:58 AM

I think trading back five spots is too risky too lose out on Geno Smith. I'd take him with the first pick of the draft to make sure we get him. His value is there if people would wake the **** up.

BlackHelicopters 01-04-2013 11:58 AM

The Washington model worked out well. High pick, third(?) rounder, and a veteran.

DTLB58 01-04-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9280147)
Why would anyone want any current QBs to stay on?

Blow them all up.

Geno
Veteran
Other draft pick

Doing this is just the final phase of the change ie. (RAC and Pioli gone) It must be done to move forward! :clap:

L.A. Chieffan 01-04-2013 12:01 PM

Vick and Charles lining up in the backfield? Sign me up p fellas

Exoter175 01-04-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9280130)
Based on the fact that I thought he was a shit prospect coming out of college. Based on the fact that most 5th-round QBs end up being shit in the NFL, and based on the fact that almost every report out of training camp this past season stated that he, definitively, didn't look like an NFL QB.

If you thought he looked like a shit prospect coming out of college, I'm glad you aren't an evaluator lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9280151)
You don't think that Pioli would have jumped at the chance of starting Stanzi if he was any good? Pioli would have looked smart as **** for finding a starting QB in the 5th round. He didn't start because he sucked in camp and practices.

No, I don't. He staked his reputation on Casshole. I don't think for two seconds he would have let Stanzi challenge Casshole for the starting position on this team because Scott's Ego is larger than Crennel's stomach. Having Stanzi turn out to be a gem of a prospect, would have hurt him because he'd have to deal with the aftermath of paying Casshole billions and throwing a thousand draft picks at New England for him and Vrabel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9280172)
All we need to know about Stanzi and why is sucks, even if we look at nothing else, is that he was drafted by Pioli. That tells you everything you need to know.

We will find out soon enough. I honestly don't believe Quinn nor Cassel will be back, and I believe Reid will retain Stanzi on the fact that he's young and extremely talented alone. If Andy Reid can coach players like you all believe, then why the hell wouldn't he keep Stanzi around at the beginning of his career, having been such a good, winning college Quarterback?

That would make no sense to me. The guy has all the intangibles you can't coach up.

htismaqe 01-04-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9280275)
Vick and Charles lining up in the backfield? Sign me up p fellas

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/960734_o.gif

CoMoChief 01-04-2013 12:12 PM

Tyler Wilson
Matt Flynn
Landry Jones

Rasputin 01-04-2013 12:14 PM

The thing that would piss me off more than anything is if we trade back and the ****ing raiders take Geno Smith. **** that.

DeezNutz 01-04-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280279)
If you thought he looked like a shit prospect coming out of college, I'm glad you aren't an evaluator lol.

Obviously scouts loved him. That's why he went in the 5th.

L.A. Chieffan 01-04-2013 12:22 PM

Fonz was the man

Exoter175 01-04-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9280337)
Obviously scouts loved him. That's why he went in the 5th.

Scouts had him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds, then the combine happened.LMAO

Shox 01-04-2013 09:12 PM

I think Vick will be the last guy in Chiefs uniform. Reid has had enough Vick saga and I don't think he will want to bring to a new team.

Geno Smith
FA not named Vick
Tanny

I think Tanny will do enough to keep a roster spot.

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:14 PM

Stanzi becomes the veteran on the team... ROFLROFLROFL

:shake:

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:17 PM

-Tyler Wilson
-Cassel (eh...say what you want, he is a good BACKUP and already under contract.)
-UFA

Bump 01-04-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shox (Post 9283110)
I think Vick will be the last guy in Chiefs uniform. Reid has had enough Vick saga and I don't think he will want to bring to a new team.

Geno Smith
FA not named Vick
Tanny

I think Tanny will do enough to keep a roster spot.

I am very curious to see Tanney as a 3rd string, would like to keep him around. But no to Vick and we can whoever to back him up, not Cassel and not Quinn and that's what matters most lol. **** Stanzi too, if he couldn't see the field with those other 2 QBs, then **** that shit.

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283130)
Cassel (eh...say what you want, he is a good BACKUP and already under contract.)

Good backups don't throw 2x more INTs than TDs and fumble 9 times. And he's not going to get paid 7.5M to be a backup so **** off.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283137)
Good backups don't throw 2x more INTs than TDs and fumble 9 times.

I disagree...but I'm not even going to put forth the effort to defend him.

I will just say, I believe his place in the league is on the bench. And if he was #2 on our roster...I would have no problem with that.

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:22 PM

At least you admit you can't defend your dumbassery.

stonedstooge 01-04-2013 09:23 PM

Vick would rape if you could protect him. Still has a cannon

Molitoth 01-04-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283130)
-Tyler Wilson
-Cassel (eh...say what you want, he is a good BACKUP and already under contract.)
-UFA

Cassel would be a cancer to the fans and the locker room.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9283171)
Cassel would be a cancer to the fans and the locker room.

I'd rather have Cassel mentor a rookie than Vick....

If we draft a QB in the 1st rnd...the fan base wouldn't give a shit if Cassel was sitting on the bench...

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:27 PM

I bet RG3 wishes he had someone as well experienced as Cassel teaching him the ins and outs of the fetal position.

Dave Lane 01-04-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marada (Post 9280041)
The Chiefs recognise that there needs to be a shakeout at the QB position. I'll go out on a limb and predict that the QB roster for 2013 will be, in no certain order.

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

2- Ricki Stanzi The guy must have some talent to remain on the roster. There is a history of skill position players blooming when they actually get a fair chance.

3- Alex Tanney Just on the strength of his arm he can make it in the NFL. Best part is we already have him.

IF we trade down 10 spots from #1 and only get one extra pick I will kill the then current GM and you.

JFC the morons on this board.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283194)
I bet RG3 wishes he had someone as well experienced as Cassel teaching him the ins and outs of the fetal position.

Why waste money on a backup when you already have one on the roster?

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283204)
Why waste money on a backup when you already have one on the roster?

No idea. Maybe because Cassel is set to make 7.5M ****ing dollars?

He's terrible. He's not even backup material. He's overpaid. He's made his guarantee. Cut him.

cosmo20002 01-04-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280088)
You've literally got nothing to go off of, other than "well clearly if he didn't play, he must be bad". Which could be one of the most idiotic comments ever spoken.

A more idiotic statement: "He couldn't get playing time despite two shitty/injured QBs on team, so he's probably pretty good."

cosmo20002 01-04-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283181)
I'd rather have Cassel mentor a rookie than Vick....

Mentor him on what? That is just unbelievable.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283209)
No idea. Maybe because Cassel is set to make 7.5M ****ing dollars?

He's terrible. He's not even backup material. He's overpaid. He's made his guarantee. Cut him.

Restructure his contract.

Then again...you are right. We are Kansas City. This franchise has such a rich history of bringing in good QBs...we will have no problem drafting a franchise QB and going out and picking up another good QB to back up our drafted QB.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9283226)
Mentor him on what? That is just unbelievable.

I'm defending him more than I wish...kinda feeling ill.

But...again...would rather have Cassel mentor him...not COACH him.

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283227)
another good QB to back up our drafted QB.

"Another" would mean we actually have a good QB on the roster... Hint: We don't.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283249)
"Another" would mean we actually have a good QB on the roster... Hint: We don't.

"Another"....as in our starter would be good. Hint: We would have TWO good QBs.

keg in kc 01-04-2013 09:38 PM

They'd be nuts to trade down. First, the guy you want might not be there. Second, staying with the first pick is a much, much bigger statement. And they need that perception as part of the rebuild. It's every bit as important a thing as hiring their coach and filling out his staff. That first pick is going to be the face of the franchise moving forward. Whoever it is.

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283261)
"Another"....as in our starter would be good. Hint: We would have TWO good QBs.

You're ****ing stupid.

Exoter175 01-04-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283130)
-Tyler Wilson
-Cassel (eh...say what you want, he is a good BACKUP and already under contract.)
-UFA

Already under contract to be paid nearly three times as much as Geno, the future starter.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9283136)
I am very curious to see Tanney as a 3rd string, would like to keep him around. But no to Vick and we can whoever to back him up, not Cassel and not Quinn and that's what matters most lol. **** Stanzi too, if he couldn't see the field with those other 2 QBs, then **** that shit.

This is the power of social media right here. Tanney is not an NFL QB, his prospects are atrocious at the NFL level and it isn't worth the time to even try to develop him. Wouldn't mind seeing him in Stanzi's role from this year though.
Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9283215)
A more idiotic statement: "He couldn't get playing time despite two shitty/injured QBs on team, so he's probably pretty good."

There was only one chance this season, if I am not mistaken, that Stanzi could have played. You are acting as if both QB's were hurt the entire year and we ran the wildcat year long with McCluster.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283265)
You're ****ing stupid.

You're acute. (Dumb)

jd1020 01-04-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283270)
You're acute. (Dumb)

Funny, coming from the moron who thinks Cassel is good in any capacity.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9283277)
Funny, coming from the moron who thinks Cassel is good in any capacity.

Yup. Acute.

Pin Head 01-04-2013 09:42 PM

The 2012 QB crop was considered top heavy, strong and deep. This 2013 version is none of those things.

RealSNR 01-04-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9283130)
-Tyler Wilson
-Cassel (eh...say what you want, he is a good BACKUP and already under contract.)
-UFA

The Chiefs would save so much money by cutting Cassel it's not even funny. There would be zero contract-eating. Zero. Only $$$ to gain.

No way they keep him as a backup. He represents a decent veteran CB. Or RB. Or OL. Whatever you want him to be.

farmerchief 01-04-2013 09:47 PM

Tyler Wilson
Jason Campbell
Ricky Stanzi

RealSNR 01-04-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9283288)
The 2012 QB crop was considered top heavy, strong and deep. This 2013 version is none of those things.

The 2013 class isn't deep? And it's not as top heavy as 2012, but it's still pretty ****ing top heavy.

You're a reerun.

Thig Lyfe 01-04-2013 09:47 PM

1. Tyler Thigpen

2. Mike Glennon

3. Peyton Manning

Exoter175 01-04-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9283305)
The Chiefs would save so much money by cutting Cassel it's not even funny. There would be zero contract-eating. Zero. Only $$$ to gain.

No way they keep him as a backup. He represents a decent veteran CB. Or RB. Or OL. Whatever you want him to be.

Cheerleaders. I want him to represent more attractive cheerleaders.

BossChief 01-04-2013 09:48 PM

I'm anxious to see what Reid does with Stanzi.

I think he will be the perfect backup to Geno, but it will be interesting how he looks in preseason with a real coaching staff that knows up from down with quarterbacks.

BigRedChief 01-04-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280053)
I was with you until the Alex Tanney bit.

The guy will go nowhere in the NFL.

WTF Stanzi? ROFL

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9283323)
I'm anxious to see what Reid does with Stanzi.

I think he will be the perfect backup to Geno, but it will be interesting how he looks in preseason with a real coaching staff that knows up from down with quarterbacks.

Here we gooo...

Tombstone RJ 01-04-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marada (Post 9280041)
The Chiefs recognise that there needs to be a shakeout at the QB position. I'll go out on a limb and predict that the QB roster for 2013 will be, in no certain order.

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

2- Ricki Stanzi The guy must have some talent to remain on the roster. There is a history of skill position players blooming when they actually get a fair chance.

3- Alex Tanney Just on the strength of his arm he can make it in the NFL. Best part is we already have him.

who would want to trade with kc?

ClevelandBronco 01-04-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9280057)
Stanzi will undoubtedly be there.

Tebow beat out Quinn. Quinn beat out Stanzi.

O.city 01-04-2013 09:52 PM

I just don't feel comfortable trading down, if we are set on a Qb and still hope to draft him.


If you like him at say 4, just take him at 1 and move on.

BigRedChief 01-04-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9283195)
IF we trade down 10 spots from #1 and only get one extra pick I will kill the then current GM and you.

JFC the morons on this board.

Not if I get to him first. :rolleyes:


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