clady's deal is done
 

5 year 57.5 33 guaranteed
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Albert is going to want that, and he's not getting it.

I'd be surprised if he's back next year.

We NEED two LT's.

The pro football dude called this one, he also said expect Alberts deal done tomorrow.

Who?

Clady
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My bad I meant that towards OC who is profootball dude?

Would you guys give Albert that deal?

I don't know, I'll try and find the tweet.

ProFootballCentral ‏@PFCentral 58m
Clady deal will be official in morning. Albert as well


I think he's full of shit, but he's got some things right.

Honestly, no.

If Fisher is the LT he's supposed to be we don't need to be paying Albert that kind of coin.

He has. Isn't that the guy penbook our what ever he calls himself pimps?
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I disagree.

While Albert currently has the upper hand in the negotiations, he knows (like Clady and everyone else too) that if you play on a one year deal and get hurt the Brinks truck isn't going to show up for your next contract. I think he will sign a long term deal, not as big as Clady's. Look if he's a beast at LT they will keep him there, if not, they probably move him, which he will be fine with because he got PAID.

No

No I wouldn't give Albert that deal. Not when we drafted Fisher.

I dont' think Reid wants to relive his last few OL years in Philly, so it wouldn't surprise me.

No way do I give Albert that coin.

The 50 number is irrelevant, the 33 mil guaranteed is all that really matters. That deal with a little less guaranteed money might get Albert.

I can't find it, but what did Jake Long get?


IIRC, thats about the deal Albert should be looking for.

Why would he agree to less money than Clady got?

I woudln't give Albert that money now, but if he's plays well on the tag and shows that he's in that class, I woudln't have a problem giving it to him.

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 4m
Chiefs and Branden Albert's people have been talking, but the team still hasn't presented a formal offer. Could happen tomorrow

Because he's not as good?

He is as good.

I'd rather trade Albert

This.

Can we tag him again next year and then trade him?

Clady is a 3 time all pro. That's why

Why would you guys not rather just sign him?

Because we drafted a LT.

Teams are always looking for LTs...get something for him next year.

Broncos, Ryan Clady agree to five-year contract extension

Posted by Michael David Smith on July 14, 2013, 8:42 PM EDT
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Ryan Clady and the Broncos have a deal.

A league source tells PFT’s Mike Florio that Clady, the team’s franchise left tackle, has agreed to a five-year contract extension with a base value of $52.5 million and a maximum value of $57.5 million. Clady will need to be an All-Pro twice during the next five years to earn the maximum incentives.
The contract includes $33 million guaranteed, meaning about 63 percent of the base value is guaranteed.

Monday at 4 p.m. Eastern is the deadline for franchise players to sign long-term contract extensions, so assuming everyone’s fax machines are in proper working order, this deal will get sent into the league office with several hours to spare. And Clady will be handsomely rewarded for developing into one of the league’s top left tackles, while Peyton Manning will know who’s protecting his blind side for years to come.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...act-extension/

I don't think Albert is in Clady's league right now, but I'd rather keep him.


Of course I don't have a problem drafting a RT at 1.1 either.

Clady has had the luxury of playing on a good team his entire career. If you switched the two around, there would be little to no difference between them.

I agree but that's hard to use in a deal making situation
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I would offer Albert a 5 year deal worth 43 million with 21 million guaranteed.

Staley will be a LT and you don't pay a RT that kind of money when you arent a contender

I think RT is becoming just as important as LT.

I can't believe some of you are fine letting a good player of ours walk over an insignificant amount just because we drafted an offensive tackle first overall.

If the market value for a quality left tackle is Cladys deal, sign Albert and focus on areas of need instead of creating more needs.

Good franchises let players walk all the time and find cheaper alternatives.

Albert definently deserves a long term deal but not like Cladys. Clady has never missed a game. Albert has only had 1 full season.

Not at cornerstone positions.

Fisher isn't going to be a career right tackle unless he sucks. It would be absurd to pay Albert like Clady if you think Fisher is a franchise LT.

If they did infact draft Fisher to be the LT, then yeah, I'd probably move Albert. But if they're ok keeping him at RT, sign Albert.

Teams are starting to view the RT spot more and more important than just a run blocker.

Been that way for a while now.
Do you want to only be able to rush the passer from one side?
Do you want to only to protect One side?
The premium on pass rushers has elevated the positional value of the RT to barely below LTs.....and pass rushers.

Welcome to 5 years ago.

The only RT that I can think of that got paid well were Winston who was cut after 1 year and Clabo who was cut after 2 years. I can't think of a team that has ever drafted a RT #1 overall.

no way, they are gaining balance but the prototypical RT isn't like the prototypical LT. You got to be a faster player at LT. faster feet, everything.

before we drafted Fisher this place is sucking Albert balls on daily basis. he's a good left tackle.
He would be a better left tackle than a right tackle.
Fisher would beast on either side..

Right now Albert is a better Tackle than Fisher

Why is that?
The fastest blitzer in the league goes over the RT the majority of the Time IIRC.
Do sacks not count on that side?

I hate to say it, but I disagree.

What? How can you say that? At this point, Fisher isn't even close. He's never played a single snap.

Tyler Bray is going to love this line.

I can't say Fisher is better just yet.

How the **** can you determine who's better when there hasn't even been a down played yet?

This.

I'm excited to see what Albert can do with actual coaching and a solid QB behind him.

I read that wrong. Thought it said Albert is better than Clady and I disagreed. It's been a long day.

Albert isn't better than Clady, but Albert also didn't have Manning behind him.

NFL_DRAFT_Bites ‏@NFLDraftBites
Prospective deal on #Chiefs Brandon Albert 3 Years 24.0 M (15.0 M Guaranteed). Could be 4 year deal to finagle/manage salary cap.

Found this on Twitter, not sure how credible, but those numbers are pretty specific to just be making up. Also says he talked to his agent Todd France, so there's that.

I don't know about that, seems low. I'd obviously sign him to that though.

Yeah, right.

I'm not saying it is reliable or credible, but if it ends up being true, I get the credit :D

Also, if Albert agrees to that, we got a ****ing steal.

Guys, this team is ready to win now. That's why Reid and Dorsey were hired.

A dominant Oline will do wonders for this team. There are very good players on this team that before you know it, will be on the downside of their careers with nothing to show for it.

A proven coach that wins. A change in atmosphere and personality on defense. Give out defense some rest with long drives that lead to scores, stop the turnovers...that shit is ****ing contagious. This team wil be a lot better....similar to when Marty first came over. We wont beat Denver, but we may contend for a WC if some things fall our way. This will be a readjustment year as most are w/ new coaches and QB etc. As the season goes a long they'll gel and get better. By next season everyone will know the playbook and whats expected from one another in meetings etc. I think next season is when Manning breaks down and we take advantage and take over division crown and make a deep run in the playoffs.

strong side gets help from TE .. your consistent defensive pressure is designed to go after your blindside. gotta have your best there.

B/c he is widely perceived as being as good.

Albert's not a multiple Pro Bowler nor has he ever been an All Pro.

The love Albert receives in this forum is ridiculous and unwarranted. He's anywhere from the 11th to 14th best tackle in the league.

Not even close, Dude.

His technique is just short of horrible. His footwork is average to below average. If it weren't for his strength and leverage, he'd be Damion SackIntosh.

Why would you sign a nearly 29 year old tackle that to date, hasn't played at a Pro Bowl level, let alone All Pro level, to a similar contract as Clady?

No way. No ****ing way.

While I do agree that he isn't as good as Clady, does he not get any slack for the situation he's been in compared to Clady?

Duh. Of course that is how most teams scheme out of necessity, bit if you don't have to leave a TE in to help block, you can be much more versatile...

What situation? Look at a guy like Will Shields. He blocked for Montana, Bono, Grbac, Gannon, Green, Huard and Croyle. Outside of his rookie year with Montana, not exactly the "Murderer's Row" of QB's. Yet he went to 13 Pro Bowls and he's a Hall of Famer in waiting.

Albert's just a guy. Hell, at this point, he's not even a John Alt, let alone a Ryan Clady.

Well, I was referring to the coaching staff and general organizational structure since he's been here.

Albert will never be confused for a HOF'er thats for sure, I'm not arguing that.

But I don't know how much structure and teaching the guy has got from actual credible coaching.

At this point, it's irrelevant. The guy is nearly 29 years old and hasn't even come close to his potential. Find me a 33 year old starting left tackle in this league and I'll show you that guy is on his last legs, getting his QB killed while said team looks to the upcoming draft/free agency period.

If Albert's signed, it should be a small deal for no more than 3 years, tops.

He's a stop gap.

If thats the case, I would rather not pay him what we're paying him this year frankly.

They should have just traded him during the draft.

They couldn't trade him. If they could have received decent value, he'd have been gone.

Sign him to a 3 year deal and move his ass to RT.

Why would you give a guy $8 million a year to play a position he's never played before?

But that begs the question. Whats decent value for say the 13 or 14 best LT in the NFL who's been an underachiever?

It was rumored the Dolphins offered a 4th, (or maybe a late 3rd or something). I'd have probably taken that.

Clady averages 5.2 sacks allowed per season.
Albert averages 5.45 sacks allowed per season.

He's played as well as Clady with worse QBs to protect.