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KC_Connection 01-12-2012 07:04 AM

KU up to #2 on KenPom. Quite the "rebuilding year" so far.

Silock 01-12-2012 07:11 AM

Wisconsin was up there, too.

Just sayin'.

KC_Connection 01-12-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8287759)
Wisconsin was up there, too.

Just sayin'.

That's what happens when you completely blow out horrible teams like TTU. Wisconsin has had like seven of those types of games against worse teams than Texas Tech (as hard as that is to believe considering the team we watched last night), hence their inflated ranking.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/web...onsin_the_faq/

Sagarin's Predictor rating also has KU #2 behind Ohio State, he seems to use a similar formula to Pomeroy for that: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt1112.htm

KC_Connection 01-12-2012 07:33 AM

BTW, do you still think this team is an #8 seed? At least I think it was you who said that. I lose track of which doubter is which sometimes. :)

Silock 01-12-2012 07:34 AM

I did say that. Glad to say I was wrong, as it looks right now.

noa 01-12-2012 08:00 AM

I wouldn't take too much away from that game last night. Texas Tech was absolute garbage. It was like watching a preseason game.
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sedated 01-12-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8287759)
Wisconsin was up there, too.

Just sayin'.

Wisconsin is always up there. Their style of play seems to skew the stats.

Lzen 01-12-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8287054)
What a terrible game to watch as a fan...Tech's style of play is just garbage.

I hate it. Dribble around until the shot clock is under 10 seconds. Ugly version of hoops. Didn't matter in the end as KU took charge in this game.

Lzen 01-12-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8287773)
BTW, do you still think this team is an #8 seed? At least I think it was you who said that. I lose track of which doubter is which sometimes. :)

Of course there is a lot of season left to be played, but I never thought KU would be worse than a #3 or 4 seed. Seems people always want to believe KU is worse than they are. Self is too good a coach to allow that. He's got some talent. May not be as deep, but this team is talented. I absolutely love the fact that Releford and Withey have really stepped up this year. I also see Young and Wesley coming along and improving, albeit slowly. Good stuff.

eazyb81 01-12-2012 08:53 AM

So I take it Gillispie doesn't have Tech on track yet? That is one ugly boxscore.

Lzen 01-12-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8287883)
So I take it Gillispie doesn't have Tech on track yet? That is one ugly boxscore.

No, not at all. They looked like poop. But I have no doubt he will get that program turned around and being a regular NCAA tourney participant.

eazyb81 01-12-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 8287894)
No, not at all. They looked like poop. But I have no doubt he will get that program turned around and being a regular NCAA tourney participant.

Agree, if he stays. He's too good of a coach.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-12-2012 09:19 AM

Tech played very hard the first 15 minutes of the game. In fact I was a bit worried... After the third technical (and ejection) it really felt like the air was let out of their tires.

Buehler445 01-12-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8287898)
Agree, if he stays. He's too good of a coach.

I didn't see it. They had 3 Ts in the game. And TT absolutely quit with 12 minutes left. That team was shit.

Gillespie's aTm teams were tough. This team had no toughness. No discipline on either end of the floor. This looked nothing like aTm teams billy coached.

BWillie 01-12-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8287759)
Wisconsin was up there, too.

Just sayin'.

Wisconsin may be a type of team that is exaggerated by Kenpom due to the way they value possessions and slow the game down immensely. I wouldn't put KU as the same type of ugly team. TBH, I think this KU team has a ton of holes. All it takes is TROB to go into foul trouble and we are done, that is why I don't have a huge problem with him being a shitty defender this year just standing there with his arms up and ppl just driving by him constantly. He's too valuable on the offensive end and for rebounding.


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