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Stewie 11-10-2012 05:15 PM

The SEC... REALLY?
 
This conference is head and shoulders above all others?

SPchief 11-10-2012 05:15 PM

Because this needed another thread

lewdog 11-10-2012 05:16 PM

The Guardian Mult?

Stewie 11-10-2012 05:17 PM

**** the million post thread.

KCUnited 11-10-2012 05:18 PM

Sarbanes or Oxley for Heisman?

Stewie 11-10-2012 05:18 PM

SEC! SEC! SEC! We can suck, too!

MMXcalibur 11-10-2012 05:19 PM

Please win, Texas A&M.

lewdog 11-10-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 9104049)
Please win, Texas A&M.

Doesn't matter. SEC still gets one in the NC game no matter what.

Bugeater 11-10-2012 05:23 PM

Well, in recent history they have been.

lewdog 11-10-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butteater (Post 9104061)
Well, in recent history they have been.

Do you like big butts?

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 05:31 PM

Uh, yeah. By far.

NC games:
2007 Florida 41, Ohio State 14
2008 LSU 38, Ohio State 24
2009 Florida 24, Oklahoma 14
2010 Alabama 37, Texas 21
2011 Auburn 22, Oregon 19
2012 Alabama 21, LSU 0

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 05:33 PM

Isn't Stewie a KU fan?

Lzen 11-10-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104079)
Uh, yeah. By far.

NC games:
2007 Florida 41, Ohio State 14
2008 LSU 38, Ohio State 24
2009 Florida 24, Oklahoma 14
2010 Alabama 37, Texas 21
2011 Auburn 22, Oregon 19
2012 Alabama 21, LSU 0

I don't buy that the SEC is superior by far. OU was a pretty close game. Texas was also a close game until McCoy got knocked out. And I don't even know why you posted last year's game. It was 2 SEC schools. Yes, the SEC is the best conference. But they are not far superior to everyone else. Well, far superior to the Big 10. I'll give you that.

DeezNutz 11-10-2012 05:46 PM

Last six national championships and this is even debatable?

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 05:48 PM

Are you on crack?

Saul Good 11-10-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9104138)
Last six national championships and this is even debatable?

Yeah, but some of them weren't big enough blowouts.

Stewie 11-10-2012 05:52 PM

Alabama can beat NFL teams! They're God's gift to football!

Saul Good 11-10-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9104164)
Alabama can beat NFL teams! They're God's gift to football!

The SEC is weak because Alabama is losing to an SEC team?

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9104123)
I don't buy that the SEC is superior by far. OU was a pretty close game. Texas was also a close game until McCoy got knocked out. And I don't even know why you posted last year's game. It was 2 SEC schools. Yes, the SEC is the best conference. But they are not far superior to everyone else. Well, far superior to the Big 10. I'll give you that.

They win every NC, they win a huge portion of their bowl games every year, and they certainly pass the eye test. I'm not sure what more one needs to show that it's significantly better than everyone else.

Stewie 11-10-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9104176)
The SEC is weak because Alabama is losing to an SEC team?

Yeah, a middling Big 12 team.

DeezNutz 11-10-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9104187)
Yeah, a middling Big 12 team.

They wouldn't be a middling Big 12 team this year, since they're a top-20 team, playing in a superior league.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 05:57 PM

They escaped from the Big Leftover and were rewarded handsomely recruit wise. Don't know why you still claim them.

Stewie 11-10-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9104188)
They wouldn't be a middling Big 12 team this year, since they're a top-20 team, playing in a superior league.

But Alabama can't lose to anyone! The SEC media told us so!

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 05:58 PM

OK, now that was Big Tex defense

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9104187)
Yeah, a middling Big 12 team.

Statistically, A&M has been one of the top 10 teams in the country this year.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9104193)
But Alabama can't lose to anyone! The SEC media told us so!

Nebraska has won a Big 12 conference game more recently than Kansas, and Kansas fan is talking shit on Alabama. Alabama wins National Championships about as often as Kansas wins games.

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:02 PM

TD Bama

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9104211)
Nebraska has won a Big 12 conference game more recently than Kansas, and Kansas fan is talking shit on Alabama. Alabama wins National Championships about as often as Kansas wins games.

You don't need to talk shit on Kansas to make Alabama football look good. LMAO

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:04 PM

Wow, Bama is looking like a champion right now.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 06:04 PM

...and this is why they play 60 minutes

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104220)
You don't need to talk shit on Kansas to make Alabama football look good. LMAO

ROFL

Bewbies 11-10-2012 06:05 PM

Everyone knows the Big 10 is the best...

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104220)
You don't need to talk shit on Kansas to make Alabama football look good. LMAO

I'll stick to talking shit on Stewie. 1st and goal for Bama.

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:08 PM

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KCBOSS1 11-10-2012 06:08 PM

Uh, yes. Check the SEC's record over the last 5 years against other conference opponents.

LoneWolf 11-10-2012 06:08 PM

**** you, Alabama. TheDouchian can suck it.

Stewie 11-10-2012 06:09 PM

Alabama can beat NFL teams!

Stewie 11-10-2012 06:09 PM

SEC SEC SESUCK!

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 06:10 PM

INT A&M.

"Great news for the future of KU football"/Stewie

Ceej 11-10-2012 06:14 PM

Almost as bad as a RunKC thread.

well done.

Stewie 11-10-2012 06:14 PM

Hahaha... SEC SEC SEC

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9104268)
INT A&M.

"Great news for the future of KU football"/Stewie

Lol, you're trying to hard.

beer bacon 11-10-2012 06:15 PM

ITT KU fans talk trash...about football??

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 06:16 PM

'Grats Beakers

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:16 PM

So to follow this logic: the SEC is weak because one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team, just beat another one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team.

LMAO

Stewie 11-10-2012 06:16 PM

SEC SEC SEC! Alabama can beat NFL teams!

Ceej 11-10-2012 06:18 PM

Someone is ****ing high.

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104305)
So to follow this logic: the SEC is weak because one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team, just beat another one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team.

LMAO

And it took a goal line stand to do it...

Stewie 11-10-2012 06:19 PM

Steve Spurrier told me so! He's a genious!

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9104295)
Lol, you're trying to hard.

I'll give that nod to Stewie, heh

Tribal Warfare 11-10-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104305)
So to follow this logic: the SEC is weak because one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team, just beat another one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team.

LMAO

Well technically A&M was from the Big 12 before

Mr_Tomahawk 11-10-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9104313)
And it took a goal line stand to do it...

Are you referring to the last possession by Alabama when they got picked on the goal line...?

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9104322)
Well technically A&M was from the Big 12 before

Which would be entirely relevant if they weren't a SEC team right now.

Coach 11-10-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104326)
Which would be entirely relevant if they weren't a SEC team right now.

True, but they are considered a Big XII Reject.

Saulbadguy 11-10-2012 06:28 PM

Garbage conference.

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9104329)
True, but they are considered a Big XII Reject.

Reject? Weren't they the ones who willingly left the B12 to join the vastly superior conference? Credit to them for having this kind of great success in their first year unlike MU.

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9104324)
Are you referring to the last possession by Alabama when they got picked on the goal line...?

Yes

tk13 11-10-2012 06:35 PM

You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-10-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9104354)
Yes

Oh.

I don't know if I would call that a goal line stand...

There was still about 2 minutes left in the game on that 4th down play. If AL would have punched it in...it would have left a couple of minutes for A&M to drive the field...hell, if not for the offsides, AL was going to get the ball back again...


If that 4th down play came with 10 seconds left in the game, I would agree with you.

LoneWolf 11-10-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104326)
Which would be entirely relevant if they weren't a SEC team right now.

Unless they have a significant number of freshman/sophomores that are contributing to their success this season, then the point is entirely relevant. A&M's team that just beat Alabama is the exact same team that would have been playing in he Big XII this season if not for conference realignment. Everyone needs to face the fact that while the SEC has been the class of college football for the past several years, they aren't as dominant this season. Are they still the best conference? Yes, but they are not head and shoulders above everybody else.

And please save me the whole "Alabama got beat by another SEC team so how does that show weakness in the SEC" crap. Major conferences top teams rarely play against other top teams from other conferences during he regular season.

|Zach| 11-10-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104357)
You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

Cough

Coach 11-10-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104342)
Reject? Weren't they the ones who willingly left the B12 to join the vastly superior conference? Credit to them for having this kind of great success in their first year unlike MU.

I was being sarcastic. Heh. :D

Coach 11-10-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104357)
You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

I don't know about that. Alabama did not have to play Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida. Granted, they did play LSU, but other than that, (besides the A&M game) they didn't play really anybody, outside of a overrated Michigan team.

tk13 11-10-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9104362)
Unless they have a significant number of freshman/sophomores that are contributing to their success this season, then the point is entirely relevant. A&M's team that just beat Alabama is the exact same team that would have been playing in he Big XII this season if not for conference realignment. Everyone needs to face the fact that while the SEC has been the class of college football for the past several years, they aren't as dominant this season. Are they still the best conference? Yes, but they are not head and shoulders above everybody else.

And please save me the whole "Alabama got beat by another SEC team so how does that show weakness in the SEC" crap. Major conferences top teams rarely play against other top teams from other conferences during he regular season.

I would actually agree with you, I don't think the SEC is as strong as previous years.

However, I don't think any of the other conferences are as strong as previous years. Most of the teams in the Big XII literally can't play defense. It's Greg Robinson bad. The Pac 12 has some strong teams but it also has teams like Colorado who are horrifically bad. The Big Ten is a dumpster fire.

ArrowheadMagic 11-10-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9104055)
Doesn't matter. SEC still gets one in the NC game no matter what.

Maybe, maybe not. Be difficult to leap frog 3 undefeated teams. Provided all 3 win out.

tk13 11-10-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9104371)
I don't know about that. Alabama did not have to play Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida. Granted, they did play LSU, but other than that, (besides the A&M game) they didn't play really anybody, outside of a overrated Michigan team.

I agree Alabama's schedule isn't as hard as it could be in the SEC. At the same time, Kansas State is probably going to the national championship game, and they have pretty much played one really good team, Oklahoma, and even that's questionable. Notre Dame punched them in the mouth. Plus they won't have to play a conference title game.

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9104362)
Unless they have a significant number of freshman/sophomores that are contributing to their success this season, then the point is entirely relevant. A&M's team that just beat Alabama is the exact same team that would have been playing in he Big XII this season if not for conference realignment. Everyone needs to face the fact that while the SEC has been the class of college football for the past several years, they aren't as dominant this season. Are they still the best conference? Yes, but they are not head and shoulders above everybody else.

And please save me the whole "Alabama got beat by another SEC team so how does that show weakness in the SEC" crap. Major conferences top teams rarely play against other top teams from other conferences during he regular season.

Yeah, the SEC only has five teams in the top 10 this year and six in the top 15. It's a down year.

Saul Good 11-10-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104375)
I would actually agree with you, I don't think the SEC is as strong as previous years.

However, I don't think any of the other conferences are as strong as previous years. Most of the teams in the Big XII literally can't play defense. It's Greg Robinson bad. The Pac 12 has some strong teams but it also has teams like Colorado who are horrifically bad. The Big Ten is a dumpster fire.

The SEC has six top fifteen teams. No other conference has more than two (when the rankings come out tomorrow).

KC_Connection 11-10-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104357)
You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

And troll threads are still entertaining.

BourbonMan 11-10-2012 06:50 PM

WOW..Look at all the BIG12 peeps jumping on ATM'S bandwagon, just because they beat Alabama..If I remember right this same BIG12 Conference basically told ATM.."See Ya, Don't let the door hit you in the ass"

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104305)
So to follow this logic: the SEC is weak because one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team, just beat another one of the best teams in the country, an SEC team.

LMAO

Yep. Except that aTm is basically a Big 12 team. They surely haven't turned into an SEC team over night. Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the recruiting boost they got for moving to the SEC. Whether that's true or not, I doubt any of those recruits is making much of an impact this year. Just sayin'.

And I'm not talking trash. I'm just providing some logic in all this SEC hyperbole. MU fans, especially, have pushed this silliness. Again, yes the SEC is the best conference. They are not, however, head and shoulders above the Big 12, IMO. The Big 12 is actually pretty close.

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9104342)
Reject? Weren't they the ones who willingly left the B12 to join the vastly superior conference? Credit to them for having this kind of great success in their first year unlike MU.

Vastly superior? ROFL You should stick to talking hoops.

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104375)
I would actually agree with you, I don't think the SEC is as strong as previous years.

However, I don't think any of the other conferences are as strong as previous years. Most of the teams in the Big XII literally can't play defense. It's Greg Robinson bad. The Pac 12 has some strong teams but it also has teams like Colorado who are horrifically bad. The Big Ten is a dumpster fire.

The problem I have with this argument is that I'd like to see how well the SEC defenses would look in the Big 12. I don't think they would be as dominant as they are now. JMO.

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9104390)
Yep. Except that aTm is basically a Big 12 team. They surely haven't turned into an SEC team over night. Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the recruiting boost they got for moving to the SEC. Whether that's true or not, I doubt any of those recruits is making much of an impact this year. Just sayin'.

And I'm not talking trash. I'm just providing some logic in all this SEC hyperbole. MU fans, especially, have pushed this silliness. Again, yes the SEC is the best conference. They are not, however, head and shoulders above the Big 12, IMO. The Big 12 is actually pretty close.

ROFL

Lzen 11-10-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9104397)
ROFL

Tell me, oh wise one, what part of my argument do you disagree?

Bearcat 11-10-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9104357)
You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

Here? On ChiefsPlanet?

Lzen 11-10-2012 07:01 PM

I guess I should have just said billay is obviously still butthurt by Texas. ROFL


Thinking of the fact that Kevin Sumlin took over aTm I would conced that one could make the argument that they aren't really the same team that left the Big 12 after last season.

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9104399)
Tell me, oh wise one, what part of my argument do you disagree?

The part about A&M being a Big 12 team. They got a brand new coaching staff dude and yes the SEC is head and shoulders above the Big 12 just like the SEC is head and shoulders above every other conference. The big reason being the talent in that region.

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9104405)
I guess I should have just said billay is obviously still butthurt by Texas. ROFL


Thinking of the fact that Kevin Sumlin took over aTm I would conced that one could make the argument that they aren't really the same team that left the Big 12 after last season.

Butthurt by Texas? My team has a good shot at making the Rose Bowl yours hasn't won a conference road game since the Bush Administration.


Good luck in the future.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-10-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9104407)
The part about A&M being a Big 12 team. They got a brand new coaching staff dude and yes the SEC is head and shoulders above the Big 12 just like the SEC is head and shoulders above every other conference. The big reason being the talent in that region.

We will see how the SEC does in the NC game...


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