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Mr_Tomahawk 02-20-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9419745)
1990 0-1 Lost to Northern Iowa in first round, 74-71

I'll be damned....

You guys too?

|Zach| 02-20-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9419745)
Not really, Zach. Mizzou flames out in the first round quite often, sorry to say.

I don't think that is quite often but I try not to get in the way of people being obsessed with being angry in this thread.

It is more 'typical" that they win the first game.

|Zach| 02-20-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9419737)
Zzzzzzzz. Check the cheesy cliches at the door dude.

MU is first or second in all time tourney wins w/o a ff appearance as well as tourney berths w/o a ff appearance.

Not to mention some spectacular and inventive ways to get bent over the years in basketball as well as football.

It isn't you are trying to connect it being typical ending a season in loss as being a Mizzou thing. Only one team wins it a year.

Spott 02-20-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9419745)
Not really, Zach. Mizzou flames out in the first round quite often, sorry to say.
Here's the record going back to 1990:

2012 0-1 Lost to Norfolk State in first round, 86-84

2011 0-1 Lost to Cincinnati in first round, 78-63

2010 1-1 Defeated Clemson in first round, 86-78
Lost to West Virginia in second round, 68-59

2009 3-1 Defeated Cornell in first round, 78-59
Defeated Marquette in second round, 83-79
Defeated Memphis in regional semifinal, 102-91
Lost to Connecticut in regional final, 82-75

2003 1-1 Defeated Southern Illinois in first round, 72-71
Lost to Marquette in second round, 101-92

2002 3-1 Defeated Miami (FL) in first round, 93-80
Defeated Ohio State in second round, 83-67
Defeated UCLA in regional semifinal, 82-73
Lost to Oklahoma in regional final, 81-75

2001 1-1 Defeated Georgia in first round, 70-68
Lost to Duke in second round, 94-81

2000 0-1 Lost to North Carolina in first round, 84-70

1999 0-1 Lost to New Mexico in first round, 61-59

1995 1-0 Defeated Indiana in first round, 65-60
Lost to UCLA in second round, 75-74

1994 3-1 Defeated Navy in first round, 76-53
Defeated Wisconsin in second round, 109-96
Defeated Syracuse in regional semifinal, 98-88
Lost to Arizona in regional final, 92-72

1993 0-1 Lost to Temple in first round, 75-61

1992 1-1 Defeated West Virginia in first round, 89-78
Lost to Seton Hall in second round, 88-71

1990 0-1 Lost to Northern Iowa in first round, 74-71

They also lost in the first round in 86, 87 and 88. They were higher seeds in 87 and 88 and lost to Xavier and Rhode Island. The game in 87 was frustrating as hell. Mizzou won the last 9 games of the season which included 2 wins over Kansas to win the Big 8 regular season and conference tournament. Derrick Chievous hit a 3 pointer with about 13 seconds left to pull Mizzou to within 1 and then somehow they weren't able to foul anyone in those last few seconds and Xavier won by 1.

warpaint* 02-20-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9419782)
It isn't you are trying to connect it being typical ending a season in loss as being a Mizzou thing. Only one team wins it a year.

I guess I have to spell it out.

Yes one team wins it each season. Thank you for that tremendous insight.

Mizzou is top 2 all time in tourney wins and appearances w/o a ff berth. Translation: the vast vast majority of other schools that have achieved similar historical success have at some point broken through w/ a ff or championship at some point. In other words, ALL of their seasons haven't ended the same whereas ours have.

The schools all time record in the tourney is 22-25 w/ 25 tourney berths, less than one win a year on avg.

Spott 02-20-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9419778)
I'll be damned....

You guys too?

That's why I never said one single word about the Northern Iowa game 2 years ago. I'm still pissed about the game we lost to them when we were a 3 seed and lost to them on a buzzer beater.

Dr. Gigglepants 02-21-2013 10:46 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21...#storylink=rss

CAMPUS CORNER

What’s next for Frank Haith and the NCAA?

February 21

BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star

COLUMBIA — Now that the NCAA has made formal charges against Missouri coach Frank Haith, where does he go from here?

First off, the timing of the charges — detailed in letters to Haith and Missouri, and the notice of allegations sent to Haith — assures he’ll coach the rest of the season, because he now has 90 days to draft a response to the NCAA and challenge the allegations before the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions, which Haith will hope rules in his favor.

Plus it’s safe to say Haith can breathe a sigh of relief because the most serious charge — unethical conduct — never materialized.

According to the Associated Press, the infractions committee isn’t scheduled to meet until July unless all parties agree to a shortened response time. But even if the NCAA does find Haith guilty of failure to monitor, it appears he’s looking at no worse than a short suspension at the start of next season or some recruiting restrictions, the same punishment handed to UConn’s Jim Calhoun and Baylor’s Scott Drew, two notable coaches who have faced the same charge in the last three years.

After reviewing the documents the NCAA sent to Missouri, Montgomery, Ala., based attorney Don Jackson — who has defended clients against the NCAA for 23 years — is confident that is the worst-case scenario for Haith.

“I don’t see any factual or procedural elements here that would justify a show-cause,” Jackson said, referring to the NCAA’s “show-cause” penalty that has ended the college careers of some coaches.

In fact, Jackson sees plenty of flaws in the NCAA allegations that Haith’s lawyers can attack when they go before the infractions committee.

The first is the nature of the allegations themselves. According to the notice, imprisoned booster Nevin Shapiro threatened to claim he paid a Miami recruit unless Haith or Miami assistant Jake Morton provided money to Shapiro. Haith failed to alert the athletic department, failed to ensure that Shapiro’s claim lacked merit or disclose Morton’s financial dealings with Shapiro and instead, the NCAA claims, Haith gave money to Morton that he then provided to Shapiro.

“It looks like they’re holding this head coach responsible for violating NCAA legislation because he was a victim of an extortion attempt,” Jackson said. “Are they saying not having reported an extortion attempt is a violation of NCAA legislation? If so, that’s crazy.”

The second problem Jackson sees is the NCAA’s recent admission of misconduct by its enforcement staff on the case, which resulted in 20 percent of the evidence being thrown out.

Jackson, who says he has found the infractions committee to be fair in the past, says this is a major problem for the NCAA. On Thursday, Florida Rep. Joe Abruzzo called on his state’s attorney general to investigate what he called a corrupt probe by the NCAA.

“The committee’s first obligation is to evaluate the credibility of the evidence,” Jackson said. “That’s their primary responsibility. Tell me who is credible here: a convicted felon and the NCAA’s enforcement staff? There is no credibility whatsoever in any of this.”

Jackson added that the lack of specificity in Haith’s notice — look at it compared to the one sent to former Miami assistant Jake Morton — is also an issue in the NCAA’s case.

“If you’re on the Haith’s side of the fence, how can you respond if they don’t put more information in it?” Jackson said. “How can you walk in and defend yourself against an allegation as vague and ambiguous as this is? It’s too vague.”

Jackson also noted that while the failure-to-monitor charge is clearly less severe than unethical conduct, a conviction, of sorts, by the infractions committee would serve as a black mark on Haith’s record, which to Jackson hardly seems fair considering the concerns that have been raised regarding the way the NCAA investigated the case.

“It could impact a career, it’s just not a death knell like a show cause,” Jackson said. “In light of the issues in the case, how can you find this coach guilty of anything when all this evidence had the potential to be tampered with?”

Of course, Jackson knows from his battles with the NCAA over the years that its far too early to predict what will ultimately happen. But it’s apparent, to him, that Haith has some good arguments to make in his own defense.

“I feel comfortable saying the attorneys involved in the case will represent Haith well,” Jackson said.

To reach Terez A. Paylor, send email to tpaylor@kcstar.com or call 816-234-4489. Follow him at Twitter.com/TerezPaylor.

Dr. Gigglepants 02-21-2013 10:48 PM

Looks like Haith might be looking at no more than a suspension at the beginning of next season and some recruiting restrictions, if this doesn't get thrown out.

Saul Good 02-22-2013 10:55 AM

I don't even think he gets a suspension. This is going to get tossed out. It's reprehensible of the NCAA to threaten this guy's livelihood over a case as flimsy as this.

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9425220)
I don't even think he gets a suspension. This is going to get tossed out. It's reprehensible of the NCAA to threaten this guy's livelihood over a case as flimsy as this.

I agree. The NCAA somehow thinks that by continuing to press the case, they can somehow save face, when in reality it is just showing how much of a joke the NCAA actually is.

PackerinMo 02-22-2013 06:16 PM

The beaker chick just wants to nail Mizzous balls to the wall. Its all BS.

warpaint* 02-22-2013 06:21 PM

House of cards
All it is

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-22-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 9426470)
The beaker chick just wants to nail Mizzous balls to the wall. Its all BS.

Sense of entitlement from watching a team that gets calls because of the name on the jersey? :)

stonedstooge 02-22-2013 06:29 PM

Nothing biting today?

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9426489)
Nothing biting today?

Just waiting for the game with UK tomorrow. It is the 8 pm game. ESPN I think?


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