I guess I missed the chapter where he shaved Renly's nipples then sucked his cock. oops, spoiler

Seriously. I have this picture of every person pitching a show to HBO, and the studio execs going "it all sounds great, throw in some gays and we have ourselves a show"

I'm no homophobe, but I hate the way gay has become trendy in Hollywood.

It was only hinted at in the book, but it was stated in words and in deeds in the books that he was a great Knight. When you watch the episode you, I venture to say that you will be hard pressed to imagine this Loaras doing anything other than "bending the knee"

Haha. That might be a little over the top and gratuitous.

Watching dis shit. BETTER BE GOOD.

Well I guess the blackfish was cut out of season 1. That sucks because he is the only Tully I can stand.

I kind of missed the ascent to the Eyrie as well - I guess it wasn't in the budget. The background shot sort of reminded me of the Camelot scene from Monty Python in the Holy Grail (all we needed was Patsy to say "It's only cheap CGI!").

And, of course, it was obviously far more important to have Loras go down on Renly, because, you know, shit that WASN'T IN THE ****ING BOOK AT ALL is far more important that SHIT THAT WAS IN THE BOOK.

If this turns into another friggin weekly HBO homo-humpfest, I'll not be watching. I don't care how much I like the books.

It does make sense, even if it was never explicitly stated in the books. It was definitely hinted at.

Despite the ye olde pillowbitergot-ry, that was a great episode.

Yeah, not a big fan of that scene.

But I thought overall, this was the best episode of the series so far. (This coming from someone who's never read the books.)

Enjoyed this episode a lot more. Climax was epic.

And now...shock value cliff notes:

dwarf ****ed that shit UP

penis!

DRAGON SKULL!

EUNUCHS!

BREASTFEEDING!

MANSCAPIN QUEERS!

jesus...that's queer

KNIFE IN YOUR EYE!

it was in the books. Renly's coterie of knights is called the Rainbow Guard. Renly is often mentioned as being the best dressed man in the court. In the books, the Lannisters and others are always insulting Renly by insinuating he is gay. Stannis insinuated Renly was gay too. How did you miss that?

as for Loras, well...

Because I don't look for it or give a shit about it? Not every foppish dandy type is gay, you know. Niles Crane bagged Daphne, not Bulldog.

Had THAT SCENE been in the book, it wouldn't bother me so much. It wasn't. Martin's implications are one thing. This is something different. It is absolute, pure 100% liberal agenda pushing bullshit, and I really don't need it rammed up the ass, so to speak, of my favorite new show.

the actor that played Niles is gay, obviously gay, that's what made the Niles/Daphne dynamic funny. you're not making any sense.

Yes, I'm fully aware of that. But the character wasn't, which is my point. I've known guys who seemed like they might/could be gay that were anything but.

I can honestly say I never once associated rainbow with homosexual in the world these books take place in.

I also never considered Loras or Renly to be gay.