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petegz28 12-22-2008 12:38 PM
Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense"
 
On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.


Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.

suds79 12-22-2008 12:42 PM
Sure I don't think anybody is purely faulting the offense after Sunday's game.

The defense blew it. No doubt about that. This one is on them.

But it would be nice if for once the offense didn't choke again in the 2nd half.

1st half - 28 points (At that rate they should easily score in the 40s and probably 50s)

2nd half - 3 points.

Out-coached by halftime adjustments again. :shake:

Reerun_KC 12-22-2008 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5320285)
On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.


Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
R U sure that wasnt a replay from 2003 and the Circus Offense?

Herm Herm Herm, how you look foolish now for running your mouth...

dirk digler 12-22-2008 12:44 PM
We score so fast our awesome D never gets a break /Herm

Reerun_KC 12-22-2008 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5320301)
Sure I don't think anybody is purely faulting the offense after Sunday's game.

The defense blew it. No doubt about that. This one is on them.

But it would be nice if for once the offense didn't choke again in the 2nd half.

1st half - 28 points (At that rate they should easily score in the 40s and probably 50s)

2nd half - 3 points.

Out-coached by halftime adjustments again. :shake:
3 points in the second half is just amazing.. Our failure to adjust has cost this team at least 7 games this year... We should be at least 8-8 or better...

Bowser 12-22-2008 12:44 PM
Not only has the game passed Gunther by, offenses around the league have effectively learned to counter the en vogue Cover 2. And, it doesn't help the Chiefs any by starting a number of guys who wouldn't even be on other NFL rosters.

petegz28 12-22-2008 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5320301)
Sure I don't think anybody is purely faulting the offense after Sunday's game.

The defense blew it. No doubt about that. This one is on them.

But it would be nice if for once the offense didn't choke again in the 2nd half.

1st half - 28 points (At that rate they should easily score in the 40s and probably 50s)

2nd half - 3 points.

Out-coached by halftime adjustments again. :shake:
We had the ball for 3 minutes in the 4th quarter. Hard to score without the ball.

Mecca 12-22-2008 12:45 PM
We're just a really bad team...

Bowser 12-22-2008 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5320318)
We're just a really bad team...
Are you baiting KCJohnny here?

petegz28 12-22-2008 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5320318)
We're just a really bad coached team...
FYP...:D

Hootie 12-22-2008 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5320285)
On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.


Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
actually only QB's for the Chiefs have a stat called 'near INTs'...no other team's QB ever almost throws an INT.

Bowser 12-22-2008 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5320321)
FYP...:D
And YOU'RE baiting SensibleChiefsFan. Bunch of shit stirrers in here.

Reerun_KC 12-22-2008 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5320320)
Are you baiting KCJohnny here?
KCJohnny is like our special ed superhero.... YOU really feel sorry for him, but his dedication to the cause makes you have goosebumps...

Hootie 12-22-2008 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5320318)
The Chiefs are just a really bad team...
FYP.

Don't try to lump yourself in with the actual fans.

Mecca 12-22-2008 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5320329)
FYP.

Don't try to lump yourself in with the actual fans.
I'd rather not be lumped with you, after that whole "I'd rather have Thigpen than Carson Palmer" thing I'd like to be thought of as far away from you as possible.


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