It's no coincidence at all that as soon as he finally got his QB, that he finally won the big one. If anyone knows the importance of the position, it's him.

I know the 90's sucked, but that was the "golden Chief" years. We don't need to forget it and run from it.


We need to embrace it and learn from it.

Hell, look at this years Texans and 9ers. They are basically playing 90's style Chiefs football with one exception. They try to attack you on offense with their franchise QB's.

I know that feeling well, owned it.

But the idea of building a team and then adding a serviceable QB, is not going to work. This team has proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is what the 90s were.

Did Cowher get lucky with Roethlesberger, I think so.

I think anyone on CP would take the 90s with a true franchise QB. But the priority has to be the QB, and keep trying until you get one, even more so now.

If the choice came down to either Cowher or Gruden I would take Cowher every time.

The words that Chiefs fans hang on...

The word "proven" is why this franchise is a "failure" Zero risk ='s Zero rewards...

but hey, dont screw up our party on sunday... 9-7 FTMFW!!!!!!

I would rather vote Aids....

What do you mean by lucky? Because Big Ben fell to him in the draft? According to Ben, Cowher told him that he was his guy and would pick him if available. He was, and Cowher did just as he said. Point is Cowher identified Ben as the guy he wanted going in.

See you aren't getting me. I don't wanna add a serviceable QB. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that we are about to draft a franchise bad ass QB first overal.

Did Cowher get lucky with Rothlesberger? Did Bill get lucky with Brady? Dungy with Manning? Walsh with Montana? Coughlin with Eli?


I don't really see how that is getting lucky?

Give him a franchise QB, you're a contender every year. It's that simple.

Yep. All day long.

The party on Sunday has been over for a while.


If you have this idea of who is the next big thing, I'm all ears.

Oh I get you, and think I was clear. The 90s with a true franchise QB would be awesome, but they weren't with a true franchise QB.

I think everyone of those picks were lucky/risky except Peyton Manning, and Andrew Luck this last year. Guarantees don't come along very often.

But you can't get lucky and hit on a franchise QB like that if you don't try, and that has been this team's problem. 30 years without trying or taking a risk. They have preferred to trade away picks for a mediocre guarantee.

They needed to sell tickets, and build a 10-6 team to sell those tickets after the terrible 70s and 80s, and they did.

I noticed you haven't commented about the obvious burn out that Cowher had gone through. What do you think about that? Has he recovered?

Obvious burn out? Thought he stepped down due to the fact that his wife had cancer?

That is being disengenuous, everyone knows that 10-6 has been the goal.

Well, they are about to take a risk. Because we are drafting a Qb number 1 overall this year.

So then by your thought, our next HC will be "lucky" to win a SB because there isnt' a franchise QB sure thing in this draft?