I think the term "Franchise QB" gets thrown around too much.

Roethlisberger is a game manager still, a talented one, but a game manager nonetheless.

Another interesting comparison...


Peyton Manning's first year....

W/L 3-13
326 of 575 for 56.7% completions and 3739 yards
26 tds 28 ints
71.2 QB rating



Compared to Brodie's first season starting, he was on about the same pace as Peyton had in his first season minus the 3 Ws



I'm not saying Brodie will turn into the stud that Peyton has. But I do think that it's a little early to give up on him.

Don't put words in my mouth.

I think he has some tools to work with, but I'm not saying he has "it".

I'm saying it's far too early in his development to know, and anyone that says they know is full of shit.

So!

:)


(This thread isn't worth reading the back pages to find out what's been posted).

:D

lol no I'm not saying you said he had "it", I'm saying you're right in that it even if he does, it won't happen here cuz the fans and Carl.

I'm sorry for putting internet words into your mouth.

It was like 5 posts before you, but no harm done. :)

Then again, I have 80 posts per page, so nothing is on the 'back page'. :D


None of it really matters... all of the stats have been compared, and he's right there with most quarterbacks that are worth being compared against. But different people see different things, get good/bad feelings, whatever. A lot of Giants fans hated Eli Manning until he won the Super Bowl, and I'm sure some kept giving him the benefit of the doubt.

If Croyle has Eli-like seasons for the next 3 years, it'll be the same around here... the majority will hate him until the team around him is good enough to win a SB.

Just got home from the game and my impressions were the very few opportunities that Croyle had there seemed to be some mis communication on at least 2-3 throws.

The one long he missed on was because he was about to get drilled and had to let it fly a little early

That's a mixture.....you have to know when it's time to move on aswell. You don't wanna be here 4 years later going "well Brodie Croyle needs more time"

Clearly my evaluative skills are better because I was watching on tv and posting on the Internet.

Herm is trying to build this team in the image of the Bucs. They won a SB, with a game manager.

When they changed head coaches to a coach that was offensive minded...

How long was the chin a HC before he "proved" he was a SB winner?

I missed the game. How did Croyle look?

FAX

Umm. I don't remember the conversation being about coaches. It was about QBs.

Ok that's great I was just sayin it took a change in the philosophy for that team to get over the top because Dungy's wasn't working.