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Sac's Latest Mock
Since we don't have any announced trades as of yet, and Dorsey has said he'll draft the best player available, here's the most recent incarnation of my mock:
1. Geno Smith, QB; West Virginia: 6'3", 220 lbs. - Yeah, they traded for Alex Smith. But he's 29 years old and coming off of a concussion injury. Alex represents the best potential starting QB for the Chiefs in 2013 prior to the draft. Which is what Dorsey/Reid have tried to accomplish in free agency - setting the Chiefs up with the potential for winning right out of the gate. However, there also has to be long term potential at the QB position. As well, Dorsey has stated he'll take the best player available. That guy is Geno. http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/G...87OMGQoD6l.jpg 3. Phillip Thomas, FS; Fresno State: 6'1", 210 lbs. - Thomas was the only non-BCS player to make all five official First Team All-American lists after the 2012 season after posting other-worldly numbers for the Bulldogs. Incredibly instinctive with a high football IQ, Thomas is superb in the open field showing excellent feet and hips, as well as going after ball carriers with authority. http://d3vs4613l1445x.cloudfront.net...abacc9262c.jpg 3. John Simon, DE/OLB; Ohio State: 6'1", 257 lbs. - John Simon is an absolute animal. Relentless. He's the terminator - he never stops, never quits. He's strong like bull and is thickly muscled. The best pass rusher on the Buckeyes squad for the past two years leading them in both sacks and tackles for loss. A former five star prep recruit, Simon does not know any other speed than full tilt relentless destruction. Think of linebackers like Bill Romanowski - that's how this kid plays. http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/0701/n...mon_ps_400.jpg 4. Joe Kruger, DE/DT; Utah: 6'7", 280 lbs. - The younger brother of Ravens DE/LB Paul, Joe is a physically bigger version of him. A workout warrior with a nose for the ball and a nasty streak, he'll play through the whistle. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012. Big frame and good athleticism. Anyone wanting SMU's Margus Hunt, this is a more polished, more experienced version that's been well coached and played against top level competition. Plays a lot like current Denver Bronco Derek Wolfe. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...e74zo1_500.jpg 5. Kevin Reddick, ILB; North Carolina: 6'2", 245 lbs. - Downgraded by some scouts/draftniks saying that he ran "hot and cold," however, from what I've seen, he's very instinctive and was able to find the ball/play through traffic. Shed blocks extremely well in addition to being able to fight through them. Pretty impressed with Reddick at this point. http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/b...01/6706678.jpg 6. Ricky Wagner, OT; Wisconsin: 6'6", 310 lbs. - A former prep basketball star, he ended up playing both sides of the offensive line and was named First Team All-Conference his senior year. Experienced and from a system that consistently puts out quality pro prospects. Has the athletic ability to play either side of the line in a pinch, but should be a natural right tackle at that next level. http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/wis/blo...y_IND_2011.jpg 6. Jeff Baca, OG; UCLA: 6'4", 305 lbs. - Agressive and physical, Baca started his career at offensive tackle and moved inside for his junior and senior year. Has also filled in at center. Second team All-Conference and was voted most outstanding senior on offense by his Bruin teammates. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1358525962 7. Rex Burkhead, RB; Nebraska: 5'10", 215 lbs. - Excellent hands and a crafty first step, Burkhead is a multi-dimensional threat. Plays hard and tough - will immediately contribute on special teams and has potential as a third down back or fullback. http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...-69565-mid.jpg |
This draft is an A+ if Pioli isn't here. :)
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I would switch Barkley for Geno, but the first 3 are spot on who I would take. I hope Andrew Jackson from Western Kentucky declares. He is a beast of a middle linebacker.
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I expect Washington to rise a bit.
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I can't believe you don't have us drafting an OL, especially with Albert having 1 foot out the door.
Someone hacked this dudes account. |
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Not bad dude. I really like Lester. No complaints here.
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Ryan is better than any qb the chiefs could put out there let alone Geno.
I would love to go forward with those 2. |
I like this draft.
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I like this mock.
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Not bad at all. Would like one of those WRs from WV too to go with Geno.
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I think this team has plenty of talent at WR, personally.
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I'm not sure where this powerful arm talk of Nassib comes from. I still do like him as a project QB though.
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Really like the first four picks. We have no depth at center/guard. What about Uzzi of GT in the fourth?
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Stats for the 2012 season:
Geno Smith 350/490 71.4% completion 4004 yards 40 TDs 6 Ints 164.6 Rating David Amerson 45 Tackles 5 Ints 1 TD 11 Passes Defensed Robert Lester 42 Tackles 4 Ints 1.5 Sacks 3 Passes Defensed Shane Skov 72 Tackles 2.5 Sacks 8 Tackles for Loss Ryan Nassib 283/448 63.8% Completion 3619 Yards 24 TDs 9 Ints 144.69 Rating Cornelius Washington 22 Tackles 3 Tackles for Loss .5 Sacks 1 Pass Defensed Michael Williams 21 Receptions 166 Yards 3 TDs Nigel Malone 5 Ints 47 Tackles 8 Passes Defensed 1 Forced Fumble Right now, I'm thinking that Washington has all the physical tools but just can't play the game. Will look for another rush end in that round, but I still like the rest of the picks/players. |
I'm not sold on Lester, he was abused the times I watched them this year.
Besides, I think Berry a year removed from the ACL, is fine at SS. We need a FS back there. |
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Berry is starting to worry me. While everyone thinks that he should be moved over to free safety (including me when I originally put this mock up) I'm beginning to think that he doesn't have the ball skills to play the free safety position at this level. He is routinely losing tight ends in coverage. However, he's been a terror at coming up in the box from Day 1. I really think that he should be used as the strong safety versus free safety, particularly if we go to a more modernized defense once Crennel and Pioli get canned after this season. A lot of people don't know him because he plays out West at Fresno State, but Phillip Thomas is, IMO, the best safety at the college level. He recently got named to everybody's first team AA (AP, Walter, Sporting News, etc.) and is incredibly instinctive. Has basically been a one man wrecking crew for the Bulldogs in 2012. In fact, I think I'm changing the mock right now to Thomas instead of Lester due to the fact that Thomas is a natural in the pass game with the size to effectively play the run. |
I like Thomas alot.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Eric Reid fall into the second, in which I'd grab him in a heartbeat. |
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And I still have high hopes for Jalil Brown. He is constantly flashing in games, but hasn't put it all together. I'm thinking that a change of coaching staff is going to do a lot of players on this roster a world of good. |
So tank Carradine is a first round pick if he comes out. Just saying.
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Sac, waht are your thoughts on Kevin Minter and Gholston from MSU?
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Minter is a load, but I'm not sure if that's because there is just so much talent at LSU that he gets to clean up after/through the rest of the guys or that he's just that good. His numbers this year were, with the exception of the interceptions, better than Te'o's, and he did stand out during the games, though not as much as Mingo did - at least to me. He's going to be a second rounder at worst, and he's probably more suited to play the middle in a 43 versus a Mike position in a 34. I'd rather have Skov in the third versus Minter in the second as Skov is as good a run plugger as he is a pass rusher and coverage guy. You could plug him in next to DJ and get terrific run support from him as well as not lose anything anywhere else. |
I like Minte, but would he not play the TED?
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And I'm just not sold on Mingo.
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In a 34, the SAM is your strong side outside linebacker, the WILL is your coverage inside linebacker, the MIKE is your QB/run middle linebacker and the JACK is your dedicated pass rush end linebacker. Or at least that's how I remember it. |
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I don't see Mingo in the 34, though.
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Newly modified reflecting the need for better wideouts to support Geno.
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Liking the mock sac except for one thing. I think David Amerson is a better fit at safety, so the Chiefs would still need a corner. Put a corner in for their 3rd round pick and I'd be liking this thing fo sho.
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I was looking at 2nd level QBs to draft later and looked at that Sorensen kid.
There's one video up on youtube of him and he looked a lot like Lindley going something like 12/30 with 0 TDs and 1 INT. Then you look at his stats and he's gotten worse every year. I'd rather draft a 2nd QB in the 3rd and get Murray, Jones, Manuel, or Dysert. |
I like the idea of taking a flyer on someone like Logan Thomas with tools you can dream on. But I also really like Dysert. This obsession of mine with QBs is getting a little unhealthy, I think.
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I think he'd fit in quite well opposite of Flowers. |
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I just don't know if you can take another guy as high as the third round at this point. The Chiefs are going to need a MLB and safety and that's the round where there is some really, really good talent sitting there for those two positions. If we could get players like Skov and Thomas, who should be immediate starters at MLB and FS on this team, then you have got to take them versus a backup at QB. 5th or 6th round I'd spend on another QB if Smith is taken in the first. |
I'm sure there is someone that can be found later in the draft to play safety.
Chiefs have 3 openings at QB and I'd rather not waste a pick on a Lindleyesque QB. |
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Thomas is an All-American. McDonald and Rambo are very solid. It gets a little iffy after that. If either of those guys are there in the third, you definitely take them over a backup at QB. That's what free agency is for - getting a vet who knows the league and can fill in and do an okay job when required. Wasting a third round pick on a backup is wasting a pick when you can get a starter at a position of need. The Chiefs need starters at the following out of this draft: 1. Quarterback 2. Cornerback 3. Free Safety 4. Middle Linebacker Everything else is filler/special teams/backup. If they get the compensation for Carr and it's a third rounder as expected, they can get all of this by round three and all of them can be high level guys. (See above.) |
I guess I'm not worried about drafting a FS. Ya, we "need" a FS but its not some pressing need. The defense will be just fine and dandy with a quality #2 CB and a replacement for Belcher.
On the other hand we have an all time terrible offense because of 1 position. I'm not ready to throw all of the eggs in 1 basket. Geno wouldn't be the first highly touted QB to bust, if he were to bust, meanwhile a 2nd tier "Russell Wilson" could have been had but we passed on because we drafted Geno. Give me 2 QBs and a FA vet like Campbell or Moore. Won't see me crying over a S if we have a "problem" like the Redskins. |
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It's a pass first league and the safety position has become substantially more important to the defense than it was in the past. And it's a hard position to fill. You've got to have guys stout enough to play 265 lbs. tight ends and fast enough to cover wideouts and fast running backs. At this point, to get an NFL starting level safety, you've got to go earlier rather than later in the draft. And while I really like Kendrick Lewis and his ball skills, I don't know if he's ever going to be healthy at this point. The shoulder is perpetually tweaked and it's kept him off the field the past two seasons. They need a new guy at free safety and between the three guys - Thomas, McDonald and Rambo, they can get a top flight prospect with that third round pick. That has to be a better option than some guy who is going to end up holding a clipboard the majority of his career. Quote:
That's why, IMO, you take a late round flyer on a guy who has the potential versus starter level material. A guy like Sorensen (who I have above) or Duke's Sean Renfree, who both have the size, arm and poise for the next level, but will need repetitions in an NFL practice setting to become acclimated to the speed. I think that they should make an effort to pick up Jason Campbell, who's the best of the free agent QB's in 2013 and is markedly better than either Cassel or Quinn, and snag either Renfree or Sorensen in the 5/6 range. Geno Smith Jason Campbell Brad Sorensen is a pretty nice QB situation in 2013 after having to endure Cassel and Quinn in 2012. |
Officially nom-nom-nom'd at your updates.
Additionally, you can expect probably 2 more late comp picks, IIRC |
so, as a hypothetical, let's say the Chiefs aren't going to draft smith (for whatever reason)....how would that change your draft...or how would you proceed with that limitation?
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- Geno Smith + Tyler Wilson/Matt Barkley |
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yeah, it's not as interesting a question as it seemed when i was high... |
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I really don't see another option other than Geno. However, here's a hypothetical: I believe that Alex Smith is going to be the major veteran QB acquisition this off-season for teams thinking that they need a guy sooner rather than later or that don't feel that the talent level is available in the draft equal to what Smith offers. He's got a two years left on a three year deal worth $24 million that has $7.5 million on it for 2013 & 2014. Bonus aren't anything to worry about. It's not a ridiculous contract for a starting QB who was leading the league in completion percentage and QB rating in 2012. He won't stretch the field but he's an accurate short and mid guy who is capable of spreading it around quickly. Good athlete as well. Arizona NY Jets Jacksonville Buffalo Cleveland Kansas City Would have to be considered as teams that will take a look at Smith. If the Chiefs went that route, and kept the 34 defensive alignment that they are currently set up to run and they have to keep the pick, my mock would potentially look like this: 1. Dee Milliner, CB; Alabama 2. Justin Hunter, WR; Tennessee 3. Lance Jones, QB; Oklahoma 4. Margus Hunt, DE; SMU 5. Kiko Alonso, ILB; Oregon 6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama 7. Brad McDougald, S; Kansas |
Chiefs have gotten the plug in QB for their entire history. It needs to stop.
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smith and jones would depress the hell out of me |
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And you could get him a lot cheaper than Smith's 7.5 million dollar salary. And while Wilson is good, I'd be a little scared to draft him in the first round due to his injury history as well as his somewhat erratic performance this season. The concussions scare the hell out of me, especially when this guy is going to be the teams QBOTF. And he's basically the same guy as Geno (size, tough guy, got a little fire in him, good arm, etc.) and I think that Geno has better touch, delivery, accuracy and awareness. (Wilson takes some huge hits in the pocket a lot.) And there isn't a defensive player or skill position offensive guy (LT, WR, RB) that is as good at their position as Geno is at his. No, it's Geno and it's not close. |
Newly updated to reflect the near guaranteed move up the charts by Stedman Bailey, who most likely won't be available with the Chiefs fourth round pick.
Kruger gets the fourth round nod as Dorsey is most likely gone and Jackson has been less than stellar. As well Pit and Bailey haven't shown much over the 2012 season for the Chiefs. Kruger has the bloodlines, size, drive and skill. Also re-added Blaize Foltz as the seventh rounder with the retirement of Lilja and the lack of progress by Asamoah and Allen during the 2012 season. Foltz is a beast and struggled with injuries the past two seasons, but when healthy, he can take over the point of attack. |
Well it certainly addresses our positions of need, in the order I would if all things are equal.
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This is the best mock draft you've ever done.
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Shayne Skov is returning to Stanford for his Senior year.
http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-...rning-stanford |
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No WR?
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Goddammit. I really wanted him as a Chief this next year. He's looking for first round money obviously. Redo. |
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If they pick up a comp pick in the later rounds (and a guy like Utah's DeVonte Christopher, who is a Breaston clone or Arizona's Dan Buckner would be ideal), then sure, but right now it's not the biggest position of need on the roster. |
Change from Skov to Bostic at the ILB position.
Both very similar in playing style, build. |
Added a seventh rounder for a comp pick for Richardson. (Though, that we get anything from him - a used jock, a worn hockey puck, etc., is going to be a bonus.)
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What do you think of AJ Klein at MLB?
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This is gonna sound weird... But Geno has a long "fate" line on his hand.
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Geno has big hands? That's good.
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A good special teams guy. He's not thick enough or fast enough to play starter in the NFL. Probably better at a MLB in a 43, and most likely not quick enough to play that position. A guy has to be very special in terms of instinct to play that, a guy like Laurinaitis for the Rams, but I don't see that in Klein. Later rounds guy who will make it at the next level on special teams. That's about it. |
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http://hardcoreharry.files.wordpress.../06/palm_1.jpg http://pickuplabs.com/blog/wp-conten...-reading-8.jpg |
No change for this list for the Senior Bowl this past week.
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What are you guys opinion of Wreh-Wilson?
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love that draft
****IN 10!!!! A ****IN 10!!! Instead of Sorenson, I'd draft RB Marcus Lattimore. Think his inj would make him drop that far? |
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Changes forthcoming...
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Modified for the Alex Smith trade/post combine.
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Love your mock, Sac. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
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New mock for the just announced compensatory picks.
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You're misinformed on Kruger.
Kruger is actually 6'6", 269 lbs. That's eleven pounds lighter than you list him, and that's over twenty pounds lighter than the DT you compare him to, Derek Wolfe. Kruger is a tweener in our defense, and probably doesn't belong on it. |
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Kruger is a couple of Sunday dinners away from 300 lbs. He's got a big frame and isn't anywhere close to maxed out. And he played at about 280 during the year. He dropped weight to run a better 40 at the combine. From NFL.com: Quote:
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Have you watched Malliciah Goodman, at all?
Guy has ridiculous measurables. All right right stuff that translates to the field -- kinda blah on the field, though. Wonder how he'd translate to the NFL as a 3-4 DE. |
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