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wazu 07-26-2013 02:02 PM

How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?

-King- 07-26-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9836143)
How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?

Some players just like to work out on their own.11 of San Francisco's 22 starters didn't go to OTAs. If you're familiar with the system and know it's not going to change, it's not that big of a deal if you skip OTAs and train on your own.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archiv...-absences.html

ptlyon 07-26-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9836153)
Some players just like to work out on their own.11 of San Francisco's 22 starters didn't go to OTAs.

And one didn't get paid ROFL

mcaj22 07-26-2013 02:18 PM

i think the agent has a leg to stand on though,

its not like Overstreet is some nobody or Browns cousin brother uncle given an agent job. Overstreet reps a lot of mid tier serviceable NFL players.

So if you think Overstreet didnt have the wording of that contract correct or helps his clients think again.

The guy has to deal with players like Dre Kirkpatrick and Nick Fairley I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt his company told Brown to get the **** to practice soon,

like he probably did any of his other clients with camp escalators.

GloryDayz 07-26-2013 02:27 PM

I find this whole thing funny.... I know the agent should have told him, but he's pretty stupid for A) not thinking that being with his team is better than working out alone (it just sounds very non-team-player'esque) and B) not knowing that such things are a requirement in the industry.

And last, how isolated is this ****. You'd think that at least one team player might have asked him what he's doing during the OTA and maybe they could hang out. If he had friends and they talked, they may have told him that OTA's might not be optional.

Oh well, it's only $2M...

CoMoChief 07-26-2013 02:33 PM

Sorry, I just can't feel bad or have any empathy for this guy.

A lot of people here don't sign an actual contract for work salaries, but I know how much I get paid, and what for, and what my vacation days are and how they work, sick/personal days etc, and how much I make working OT and how many hours of OT I work. I normally know how many hours I've taken for lunch within the week. etc.

I don't see how this is any different for an NFL player knowing what exactly they're getting paid for etc.

-King- 07-26-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9836194)
I find this whole thing funny.... I know the agent should have told him, but he's pretty stupid for A) not thinking that being with his team is better than working out alone (it just sounds very non-team-player'esque) and B) not knowing that such things are a requirement in the industry.

A) For off season workouts, a lot of players work out on their own with their own trainers.

B) OTAs are not a requirement

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And last, how isolated is this ****. You'd think that at least one team player might have asked him what he's doing during the OTA and maybe they could hang out. If he had friends and they talked, they may have told him that OTA's might not be optional.

Oh well, it's only $2M...
OTAs are optional.

-King- 07-26-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9836208)
Sorry, I just can't feel bad or have any empathy for this guy.

A lot of people here don't sign an actual contract for work salaries, but I know how much I get paid, and what for, and what my vacation days are and how they work, sick/personal days etc, and how much I make working OT and how many hours of OT I work. I normally know how many hours I've taken for lunch within the week. etc.

I don't see how this is any different for an NFL player knowing what exactly they're getting paid for etc.

Yes, I'm sure your contract is exactly like an NFL player's contract. No way an NFL contract is more complex and contains more contractual nuances than yours. LMAO

Halfcan 07-26-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9835599)
It's the agents fault. Brown hired his agent to understand the contract. His agents only job is to know the contract. Browns job is to play football.

Also, if I'm the 49ers, I would pay the man. It's not like he was being a rebel for skipping. He was probably working out on his own. Shouldn't the 49ers have at least called him and said 'hey, I don'tknow if you realize this, vbut your contract says you need to be here.' It's a small price for the 49ers play to avoid building a reputation that they're trying to take advantage of their players.

Yeah, he should know his contract. I am guessing many players would have missed this

:doh!: That is why it is a contract. These football players are too busy Big Pimpin' instead of reading their contracts and watching their money.

9ers won't pay him shit- it would probably violate the collective bargin agreement? :hmmm:

kepp 07-26-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9836208)
Sorry, I just can't feel bad or have any empathy for this guy.

A lot of people here don't sign an actual contract for work salaries, but I know how much I get paid, and what for, and what my vacation days are and how they work, sick/personal days etc, and how much I make working OT and how many hours of OT I work. I normally know how many hours I've taken for lunch within the week. etc.

I don't see how this is any different for an NFL player knowing what exactly they're getting paid for etc.

This. He says, "pray for me"...oh, dear God, I hope he can live on that other $925K. If I were set to make almost $3M, I would be darn sure I knew the parameters of the contract.

chiefzilla1501 07-26-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9836242)
:doh!: That is why it is a contract. These football players are too busy Big Pimpin' instead of reading their contracts and watching their money.

9ers won't pay him shit- it would probably violate the collective bargin agreement? :hmmm:

He hired and paid an agent to negotiate a complex contract. He is paying an agent to represent him. My guess is, the contract is so complex that most nfl players lack the education to understand, otherwise they wouldn't pay to be represented.

You're right on the 49ers. But it's just bad practice on their part.

Its possible that brown was told and just didn't show up. If he wasn't told, that's just bad business practice for both the team and his agent not to raise the flag.

GloryDayz 07-26-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9836209)
A) For off season workouts, a lot of players work out on their own with their own trainers.

B) OTAs are not a requirement

OTAs are optional.

Oh, I know, but when the optional costs you a mere $2M for executing the option, regardless of who's job it was to know that, I'm not sure it's a bit not optional.

That being said, there's no way to build a team, especially a sports team, 1,000 miles apart so the clause is awesome because there are idiots out like this **** who'd make this kind of coin and opt-out of being with his team mates. So him thinking that the team would be better-served by working out on his own tends to make me wonder about his commitment to the team. Plenty will schluff it off, but A) some people showed up (maybe not because it'd cost them $2M otherwise), and B) he didn't think it'd help (enough) to be there. Is this clown some Zach and needs his Mommy more than the team? LOL!

I just disagree and think that if he's only worried about the $2M, he was expendable anyway.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-26-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9836326)
Oh, I know, but when the optional costs you a mere $2M for executing the option, regardless of who's job it was to know that, I'm not sure it's a bit not optional.

That being said, there's no way to build a team, especially a sports team, 1,000 miles apart so the clause is awesome because there are idiots out like this **** who'd make this kind of coin and opt-out of being with his team mates. So him thinking that the team would be better-served by working out on his own tends to make me wonder about his commitment to the teamPlenty will schluff it off, but A) some people showed up (maybe not because it'd cost them $2M otherwise), and B) he didn't think it'd help (enough) to be there. Is this clown some Zach and needs his Mommy more than the team? LOL!

I just disagree and think that if he's only worried about the $2M, he was expendable anyway.

Trust falls and bowling outings FTW!

It amazes me how badly some people want professional sports to resemble their own experiences with team sports at the youth and high school level. These are grown men with lives outside of football.

KChiefer 07-26-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 9836290)
This. He says, "pray for me"...oh, dear God, I hope he can live on that other $925K. If I were set to make almost $3M, I would be darn sure I knew the parameters of the contract.

You ever consider that Terrell doesn't have the law degree needed to understand everything in his contract??? THAT"S WHY YOU PAY SOMEONE FOR THAT KNOWLEDGE!!!

Tombstone RJ 07-26-2013 04:01 PM

Yes, I'm sure his agent didn't tell him all these important details (rolleyes). I'd be willing to bet the agent sent said player the contract, maybe even outlined it or highlighted it for this guy, and said player didn't even read it. Now he's all like "see, it's all your fault!"

If I was SF I'd definitel get the agent's side of the story too. And, future note to all agents--when sending important documents to client, send it certified mail.


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