If REid doesn't get a QB with our 1st round pick...
 

I know this is a topic of blasphemy at the moment, and without a doubt we all want a franchise QB for once. But let's face it folks, it is a possibility. . . So let's say Reid decides not to pick a QB in the first round. What should we do with our #1 pick? Linebacker? Receiver? Lineman? Trade down?


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Reif!

There IS no other option.

Every other possibility is wrong and will be frowned upon.

If they don't take QB, I hope they shove the pick right up your ass and out your mouth

Jeeze, of course... auto-correct at it's best. Mods please feel free to change "Reif" to Reid

I really wish someone would wipe out a majority of this ****ing fanbase.

Without a doubt I would be disapointed if we don't pick up a QB. But it's indeed a possiblity. And I trust Reid will make the best decision for our Chiefs...even it means doing something else with our once in a lifetime #1 pick.

Hes not saying its right, hes saying its a possibility.

It's really not an option. QB is a must for this team, everyone knows it. Despite what Clark & reid said, I firmly believe that we will get a QB with the #1 pick

How many times has this type of thread been started? Exactly.

REID

And 80% of this fanbase think that it's right.

Reif

Reed

LOL

Trade down for picks. But I doubt Reid won't see a QB he likes.

If he thinks a guy like Barkley is the best option, I bet he will try to trade down and get Barkley with extra picks to build the team.

Sorry... Better?

ROFL Read

LMAO

Pass the Reif..reed..read...Oh nevermind.

Much LMAO

There we go... I before E, right?

Thanks Mods, I owe you my soul.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Gonzo: REid... ;)

No ones trading up. There are no "cant miss" prospects worth trading up for.

Aww shit. Ok, l fix it.

Weed

Ok. All fixy.

Joeckel is pretty close to can't miss. But not worthy trading up for IMO. Philly will love him.

Gonzo, You can do no wrong in my eyes! :D

Doesn't mean a team won't fall in love with one of these guys though.

Waaaaay too early to make that call

Of course we are picking a QB

You think a LT will make the fans run in and fill arrowhead stadium

If we draft a Joeckel AND sign Vick, think about how much sense that would make.

He's an offensive tackle coming out of a true dump down spread system with Fran Tarkenton Jr. as his QB.

This guy hasn't pass blocked for shit. He hasn't had to work on his kick step, his slide, his back peddle, his what the **** ever.

He's not the prospect that Okung, Long, Thomas or Kalil were. Not even close. And it's going to take this guy three years to bring his game up to the NFL level.

To tell you the truth, the Matthews kid looks better, and he's going back to school.

They had their chance with Okung. They took a safety.

They better sign Albert and get a QB.

****ing taking a tackle in this draft is insanity.

IMO Matthews is better. He can play right or left. And will likely play left next year.

But Joeckel is a true technician. His technique is second to none in this class, and only gave up 1 pressure to Adrian Hubbard when they played Alabama. He had issues against Sam Montgomery, but even then he was outstanding. I think he is right on par with Kalil. He does a great job of getting to the second level and is a smart player. He doesn't have many flaws.

Blocking for Tannehill and Manziel helped him out a lot. Manziel in particular was terrific at avoiding pressure and allowing himself to buy time.

Joeckel could easily have a season just as successful as Kalil's. But he's not on the same level as Joe Thomas, or Okung from THIS year. Joe Staley was the best tackle in the league this year according to PFF.

Joeckel is effective in screens and has great footwork in pass protection.

He's a solid LT that should be in the pro bowl within 3 years.

But at the end of the day, I don't care. We don't need a waste of time LT. We need a QB. Geno.

I think Geno Smith will remind Reid alot of McNabb so I think he takes Geno. Only thing stopping Geno from being the kc pick is if he screws the pooch at the combine and even then, I think kc still takes him.

Did you see Cam Newton pass at the Combine?

no, at least I don't remember watching him throw at the combine.

The problem with this draft is that the only other players who experts deem locks are at positions we don't need. It's not like Calvin Johnson is out there. If there are no other reasonable options you weight your needs more. This team needs a S, CB, ILB, DE, TE, FB, QB. None of the players at those positions are worthyof the first pick. All things being equal, unless the QB options just can't play, what other direction do you go?

Like you need a separate thread for this. Everyone has already volunteered this information at nauseam.

Ring leader has the point of the year.

And even with that said, it's not like Geno is a reerun that should be last option. He's completely worthy of being selected #1 overall. He's a top 8 talent IMO. I haven't created a "big board" yet. I save those for after the combine. I typically rank my top 100 guys. But at this point Geno is right around 3rd, or 4th overall. Maybe even 1st after further review. That's just me though. But I know of 3 scouting services that rate him #1 overall.

It's time for Geno Smith fans: Part II

I disagree. The Bills owner has basically said they will be after a QB. If they fall in love with either Geno or Wilson, they might trade up to make sure that they get him...

Geno #1 no question. Now i would also like to draft DeAndre Hopkins.

Would not mind us taking BPA at 1 and trading back into the first round for our QB if it's a guy that Reid truly feels is the guy and we know he'll be there around the 20-30 range.

I mean this in jest but do me a favor. If you fly to New York for the draft, do not boo the non-Geno Smith selection lustily in front of a national TV audience, especially if it's not a QB. Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams with Reid's first ever draft pick in 1999. McNabb never forgave the entire fanbase for the Dirty Thirty radio stunt. Reid doesn't often do the popular thing if he doesn't think it's right. You guys have the same Pre-draft mentality we did 14 years ago. Be careful.

I will predict if we do pick first it won't be a QB, if we trade back to say 10th, then we will pick AJ McCarron :D

Yep - This EXACTLY. Johnny Football makes him look better than he is.

He's staying at Alabama

That would be pretty dumb since McCarron is going back to school.

Beat me to it.

Clark will draft McCarron's girlfriend because KC hasn't had a franchise cheerleader in 40 years.

I agree with others. QB is the only option. If for whatever reason KC doesn't go QB #1, I would say it would be a DL with the pick. Reid values and loves DL and depth at the position.

That being said, at this point I really don't care if it is Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, etc. I don't care if they trade down and then pick one. Just draft a QB, any QB, in the first round. I will trust Reid to know which QB is the best pick for his system.
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I would booo if not Geno Smith or any other top QB prospect.


This maybe a once in a life time opportunity to get our QB with the first pick of the draft. It's huge & no way would I be happy with any other position. I have no reason to trust or believe that we would be better off skipping a QB with our first pick of the draft. I don't curr if Andy Reid thinks he made the right decision for the better of the team or not. He would have to prove it to earn that trust just because he did it in Philly doesn't mean he should do it here.

I don't really trust Reid in picking QBs. I have some trust in Pederson and a ton of trust in Dorsey.

Sending in the midgets.

Gross

Drafting Jekyll is so full of fail. We just suffered through a 2 win season to let our good LT go, draft a guy that might make it a push, and go retread at QB again for the eleventy billionth time....awesome.

It'd be like buying a BMW for a squirrel...

QB or bust with the pick

QB
 

Everyone saying this has just gone full reerun in the other direction. The draft is fluid and who knows what can happen.

I want the RIGHT QB. If we can get him by trading down or trading up from #33, then what the hell do I care? I hope Geno Smith blows people away at pro days and combine. I hope there's no doubt that he is the #1 QB in the draft and we take him first overall.

But if he isn't the right guy, then **** him. I want the QB who is going to make this team a Super Bowl contender. If the rest of the league believes this is a weak QB class, then maybe we can take advantage of that perception and land a really talented guy others have ignored.

Regardless, this is a HUGELY pivotal time for this franchise, and this decision needs to be right. It can't simply be "Derp take a QB no matter wut or GTFO." It needs to be a carefully calculated, perfect decision.

Dude, that's not the point. There is a group of hardcore fans here that have done our homework on guys like Geno and Wilson. I trust their judgment and my own eyes since I see the same thing. We aren't like "HERP HE'S GOT A CASSELESQUE DEEPBALL, BUT HE'S A QB!!!". We've seen the accuracy, mobility, work ethic of Geno, and came to the conclusion he's absolutely worth the pick.

People who say we should draft Joeckel should get a one week ban.

I miss Trent Green :(

Yep ! The pimping hasn't begun yet:rolleyes:

I agree he is worth the pick from what I have seen, and I think there are many many many posts that back that up. But I am withholding fanaticism until we have at least gone through off the off the pre-draft process. Can you honestly say that there isn't a single quarterback in this draft that is nearly as capable? There isn't one other guy that could become a franchise QB capable of winning multiple playoff games?

If there is that guy, and we are able to get him without using the first overall pick, then that changes the situation. That's all I am saying.

I would rather have Jarvis Jones AND a franchise QB than just a franchise QB. Now, maybe that's ****ing impossible and there is no earthly way you are going to land a top flight QB without taking one with the first overall pick. Maybe.

But we don't know that yet, so it's silly to be so declarative at this point. It's just silly.

I don't believe this is a weak QB class, not the way the talking heads do. But if that becomes the rhetoric, then the Chiefs might be able to take advantage of it.

Two years ago I wanted Kaepernick. Last year I wanted WIlson (once the RG3 trade possibility was gone). This year I want Geno.

Let's just say that we can get Geno in the 2nd round. Let's say he struggles at the Combine. He tests positive for marijuana. He falls and we draft him at 33rd overall.

Are you going to freak out because we didn't take a QB at #1?

They should have to clean Brandon Albert's ass hole during their time away.

How about having a Trent Green without all those peski INTs? That is what Geno Smith can bring to the table. He can put up TDs in bunches during a game and he doesn't throw a bunch of INTs. He had something like 44 TDs and only 6 INTs this year.

Why wouldn't we want a QB who gives us the best chance of winning by scoring a lot of TOUCHDOWNS?

Didn't we learn anything from last years draft? Washington traded its soul to the devil to move up. Miami traded up to take a chance on a QB that everyone said should go in the 2nd round. If a guy looks pretty good and a team needs a QB they are gonna move up to get him. If we wait until the 2nd round the good ones will be gone. So do we trade away our pick and end up missing what we need the most (QB) so we can have lots of picks and take a loser in the 2nd? Figure out which QB you want and take him. If he sucks then take another one when his rookie contract is up.

Too risky. He's not Luck.

His stats mean next to nothing. Seth Doege has virtually the same stats. (INTs being the difference - which is truthfully a big difference, but you get the point).

The argument for Geno is the eyeball test. You watch the kid play, and he just has patience, vision, touch, accuracy. I LOVE how he never tucks the ball and runs unless it is absolutely the last option for positive yards.

He actually reminds me more of Roethlesberger in that regard - extending plays and extending plays and then finding an open receiver. Beautiful.

Your right we should take a TE to replace our FHOF Tony Gonzalez.

I was thinking trade down so we can take a TE AND Guard

Yes. I have actually made that comparisment before on here. I brought up the difference between Trent Green was about the INTs & lack there of that Geno Smith has.

No no no havn't you heard Mel Hairkiper say we need a DT or DE..

I think there is one from LSU we can get.

I don't want Smith to be compared to Big Ben, nor do I want him to ever try to play like Big Ben.

I see where you're coming from in terms of skill set. But Geno has to has to has to learn to become a pocket passer that only extends plays as a last resort. He can't try to be Big Ben.

ROFL The Chiefs are not drafing Jarvis with the #1 pick then getting Geno or Wilson in the 2nd round. Are you ****ing high?

If you guys say Geno is beyond a doubt the choice then I am sold.

Maybe they decide Quinn was being held back by stupid play calling or receivers not running routes correctly. They may go with Quinn and draft a development QB in the 3rd. Dunno. I just know that this decision has to be right or we are screwed. Which means it was epically important that Scot Peephole didn't make that decision.