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Rasputin 11-22-2012 10:05 AM

Morehead State coach Sean Woods pushes player to tears with bench outburst
 
Morehead State coach Sean Woods pushes player to tears with bench outburst
Rob Dauster
Nov 21, 2012, 11:14 PM EST
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I don’t know the story behind the relationship that Morehead State head coach Sean Woods has with anyone on his team.

And frankly, I don’t care about it.

For all I know, Devon Atkinson could be the biggest pain in the you know what that Woods has ever coached. He could talk back. He could curse out his coach. He might kick puppies. He could even use the last of the milk in his morning cereal and put the empty carton back into the fridge.

I don’t know. And neither do you.

Which is why Woods’ reaction on the bench during Morehead State’s 81-70 loss to is so problematic.

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If you haven’t seen it yet, Woods nearly reduced Atkinson to tears on Wednesday night. During a timeout at the 5:51 mark, Woods shoved Atkinson towards the team huddle and then twice went nose-to-nose with the player, screaming at him.

Personally, I don’t have a huge issue with this. Did Woods go too far here? Probably, yes. Is Woods a guy that I would want to play for? No. Would it be the style that I coached in? Probably not. But this Morehead State team is one that thrives on hustle and energy, and it’s not crazy to think that they thrive on their fiery head coach for that. Every athlete has, at some point in their life, played for a ‘screamer’. You deal with it.

The bigger issue is that this is going to be the topic of conversation coming out of this game. Case in point: this post. I’m 250 words into the post, and I’m just now mentioning the fact that for 30 minutes on Wednesday night, Morehead State took it to Kentucky in Rupp. It was a sensational performance that included a 16-0 run in the first half. The Eagles weren’t able to hold on to complete the upset, but that’s expected.

They’re Morehead State.

And they were playing Kentucky.

But their performance was admirable, to say the least.

And it’s going to get buried by the mountain of criticism that Woods will receive because he pushed a player to the brink of tears on the bench.

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Q? They sure are going off on this on ESPN & Mike & Mike. I didn't see another thread but they were slamming that coach.

Rasputin 11-22-2012 10:06 AM

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phisherman 11-22-2012 10:11 AM

The fact that this is even a problem is a f**king joke. Coaches can't yell at players anymore?

Honestly, put a reporter and a video camera at any high school football practice during the summer and you'll see FAR WORSE. I mean, way worse.

Brock 11-22-2012 10:17 AM

When did football coaches being maniacal assholes become unacceptable?

Rasputin 11-22-2012 10:17 AM

He can sit there and pout our coaches did the same on the high school level too. ESPN just made a big whoopty **** a doo about it is why I made the thread.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-22-2012 10:19 AM

Huhhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh Morehead

SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:19 AM

Sorry but you can't push a player. At that point its a problem
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Ace Gunner 11-22-2012 10:20 AM

no yelling in fantasy football.

lcarus 11-22-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141294)
Sorry but you can't push a player. At that point its a problem
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That wasn't much of a push. It's more like he swept him towards the bench, almost looked like he was trying to pat his ass like coaches and players do sometimes. I don't think it's a big deal. What I wanna know is why he was so angry at the player.

seclark 11-22-2012 10:22 AM

bobby knight laughs.
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9141302)
That wasn't much of a push. It's more like he swept him towards the bench, almost looked like he was trying to pat his ass like coaches and players do sometimes. I don't think it's a big deal. What I wanna know is why he was so angry at the player.

it was a push. the Amer is what convinces me of it. At that point he can't put his hands on a player. if that was my kid we would have had problems, probably right than and there.

Hell me at that age definitely would have punched that ****er, but I have tried to teach my children better than that... Just let Dad handle the stupid idiots.
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lcarus 11-22-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141307)
it was a push. the Amer is what convinces me of it. At that point he can't put his hands on a player. if that was my kid we would have had problems, probably right than and there.

Hell me at that age definitely would have punched that ****er, but I have tried to teach my children better than that... Just let Dad handle the stupid idiots.
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Oh yeah it was a push, just not much of one. He shouldn't do it, but these things happen from time to time. Didn't Bobby Knight strangle a player?

SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9141318)
Oh yeah it was a push, just not much of one. He shouldn't do it, but these things happen from time to time. Didn't Bobby Knight strangle a player?

Didn't Bobby knight get fired for putting his hands on a Player?
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:31 AM

It should never happen. Coaches should never put their hands on a player when angry.

That's like beating your wife and saying "it wasn't much of a shot"
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Lonewolf Ed 11-22-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9141276)
The fact that this is even a problem is a f**king joke. Coaches can't yell at players anymore?

Honestly, put a reporter and a video camera at any high school football practice during the summer and you'll see FAR WORSE. I mean, way worse.

But, but, but... what about the poor darlings' self esteem? He cried all of his out all over the bench! :deevee:

Setsuna 11-22-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141328)
It should never happen. Coaches should never put their hands on a player when angry.

That's like beating your wife and saying "it wasn't much of a shot"
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ROFL you're out of control. These are males. Just stop with the bleeding vag.

SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9141332)
ROFL you're out of control. These are males. Just stop with the bleeding vag.

Yeah **** you. I'm a male too. I also have some self respect. That makes me not take shit like that from anyone.

Bitches like you are the reason people like that think they can do and get away with what that coach did.
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lcarus 11-22-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141328)
It should never happen. Coaches should never put their hands on a player when angry.

That's like beating your wife and saying "it wasn't much of a shot"
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Nobody was beaten. It was a light shove to the bench. The coach and player probably already worked things out.

lcarus 11-22-2012 10:44 AM

THis is off the player's twitter page.

"I need for everyone to chill with all that talk about my coach he was tell me some good stuff and he love me he was tell me good stuff. "

SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9141341)
Nobody was beaten. It was a light shove to the bench. The coach and player probably already worked things out.

Putting your hands on someone while angry is never ok.

Sorry if you don't understand. Actually its against the law. What he did is battery by the letter of the law, at least how it was explained to me. Hell you can't even spit in someone's face anymore...
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9141346)
THis is off the player's twitter page.

"I need for everyone to chill with all that talk about my coach he was tell me some good stuff and he love me he was tell me good stuff. "

again sounds like battered wife syndrome.
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Setsuna 11-22-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141338)
Yeah **** you. I'm a male too. I also have some self respect. That makes me not take shit like that from anyone.

Bitches like you are the reason people like that think they can do and get away with what that coach did.
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LMAO Damn I had this whole thing written out. Turns out he's a senior.

lcarus 11-22-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141350)
again sounds like battered wife syndrome.
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Yeah..that player is like a battered wife lol. Holy shit.

SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9141357)
LMAO Damn I had this whole thing written out. Turns out he's a senior.

Yeah this post makes no sense to me...
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9141359)
Yeah..that player is like a battered wife lol. Holy shit.

Obviously you don't get what I'm saying...
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 10:51 AM

Wife gets hit, she takes up for husband. "it was a mistake, it was my fault, he lovesme"

Sound familiar?
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Gary 11-22-2012 10:53 AM

I've got no problem with a coach giving a player an ass chewing. Hell, I got tore into by my high school football coach more times than I can count. I have a problem with a coach getting up nose to nose with me or generally in my face. Chew my ass out all you want, the minute you get nose to nose with me we're gonna have a problem.

Three7s 11-22-2012 10:56 AM

The issue with me isn't the yelling. That's how you instill discipline in certain people. The issue I have is with the push. I feel like that's going too far.

jAZ 11-22-2012 10:57 AM

I've been one of the more outspoken liberals on the board. I even refuse to let me son play with toy guns because guns aren't toys. And I've also been outspoken out the hostility this board permits and generates over the years.

All of that said, even I don't see much if anything wrong with that clip. I'm not clear that the player was near tears. And if he was, I'm not sure that's a problem. And even if it were, I don't see how that confrontation is a problem.

The worst part of the clip was him the coach shoving the player. And that was borderline at worst.

I don't yell at my son unless he's far away, can't hear me or isn't paying attention or is in danger. But I do get in his face and it's a very good way to quietly demand their full attention. I haven't seen many if anyone else in coaching do much of that (getting nose to nose).

I guess if he was saying really shitty things about the kids family or deceased relative or something, maybe that's the problem. Otherwise, I don't much get the issue here.

Iowanian 11-22-2012 10:58 AM

Young men break down in sobbing fits during job performance reviews where the information is delivered in a normal tone too.


That kids was acting like a punk and was back talking his coach. He had an ass chewing coming from what I see.

Having trouble feeling bad about it for that kid who is essentially getting a free ride to college to do what that coach asks him to do. Every person is wired different and some people, particularly those who have never had it, need a boot in the ass once in a while to get results.

demonhero 11-22-2012 11:00 AM

Grown men... nothing to see move on. Some of you jokers want to desensitize everybody and it ain't happening. You can see the black and white guys on the bench look over for a second and then look away.

SAUTO 11-22-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 9141382)
Grown men... nothing to see move on. Some of you jokers want to desensitize everybody and it ain't happening. You can see the black and white guys on the bench look over for a second and then look away.

would you be ok with it if the player had punched the coach?

Grown men and all...


Maybe the other players were embarrassed for the guy.
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SAUTO 11-22-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9141377)
Young men break down in sobbing fits during job performance reviews where the information is delivered in a normal tone too.


That kids was acting like a punk and was back talking his coach. He had an ass chewing coming from what I see.

Having trouble feeling bad about it for that kid who is essentially getting a free ride to college to do what that coach asks him to do. Every person is wired different and some people, particularly those who have never had it, need a boot in the ass once in a while to get results.

the kid was walking off the court. The coach was screaming at him. He went to walk to the bench coach pushes him. ANOTHER coach gets in players face, head coach comes back in screaming while other coach holds kid there to take it.


**** that. Sorry. If that had been my child, grown or not, I've got a ****ing problem.
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Iowanian 11-22-2012 11:12 AM

I wonder what he did? The crowd was booing him.

It looked to me like the coach told him to get his ass to the sideline and he ignored him and back talked and then moped over, and then back talked both of the coaches who got into his face.

demonhero 11-22-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141388)
would you be ok with it if the player had punched the coach?

Grown men and all...


Maybe the other players were embarrassed for the guy.
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Yes, and I would bet on the other players making him regret throwing the punch.

SAUTO 11-22-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 9141432)
Yes, and I would bet on the other players making him regret throwing the punch.

Lol. Yeah right. His teammates? Ok
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Iowanian 11-22-2012 11:25 AM

I once mouthed off to a ref in a fit of anger and then some people in the crowd got on me and I said something to them.

I was pulled off of the competition area by a 2 hand throat choke, lifted off the ground and screamed at like the Macho Man. I had every bit of it coming and I learned a lot about a better way to respond.

demonhero 11-22-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141434)
Lol. Yeah right. His teammates? Ok
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Yep.... probably hold him up, so the coach can open up his ears and take that dazed wtf did I do coach look of his face. :hmmm:ROFL

In58men 11-22-2012 11:27 AM

What's the deal ****ing deal?

Rausch 11-22-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9141288)
When did football coaches being maniacal assholes become unacceptable?

This type of posting is unacceptable on Chiefsplanet.

We have the team name in the url and my daughter could click on this.

Shame.

FOR SHAME!

:shake:

ROYC75 11-22-2012 11:47 AM

From a coaching point of view, you never lay hands on a player in a hostile manor, " NEVER". It's bad policy, there are ways to get the kids attention, benching, running laps, game suspensions, etc.

Was the kid disrespectful to the coach, yes, but that happens and you can't stop this on the court yet you can handle it in house. The assistant coach started to step in and then stopped, but he handled it wrong. He should have be engaged in a way to defuse it, not add fuel to the heated exchange.

I was taught that as a HC or an Ass. coach here in some of the Jr Pro, MS,& HS I have worked is to separate the HC & the player, allow the HC to address the team, let things cool off and an assistant can handle the player or the coach can address him after the TO. It's how we did things here at the HS level, kids attitudes fuel quicker now days than when I went to school.

Always defuse the heated exchange and handle it in house, doing it on the court allows the world to see what type of asshole you are.

Rausch 11-22-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9141505)
From a coaching point of view, you never lay hands on a player in a hostile manor, " NEVER".

This I'll agree with.

I've been called everything but Christian as a HS athlete but never touched. Not once, and I'd argue I had a very unstable coach who got away with a ton of shady $#it.

At the next level you should expect to hear more (you're an adult) and you better be able to take more.

That said, laying your hands on a kid even in a soft manner is crossing the new line...

Setsuna 11-22-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9141360)
Yeah this post makes no sense to me...
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I had a whole paragraph written out to refute your words then I looked him up realizing he is a senior. If he was a freshman than I would have posted what I had.

ROYC75 11-22-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9141525)
This I'll agree with.

I've been called everything but Christian as a HS athlete but never touched. Not once, and I'd argue I had a very unstable coach who got away with a ton of shady $#it.

At the next level you should expect to hear more (you're an adult) and you better be able to take more.

That said, laying your hands on a kid even in a soft manner is crossing the new line...

This is true Brad, as an adult you have to take the high road.

ROYC75 11-23-2012 03:13 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...tball/21106654

1 game suspension.

Predarat 11-23-2012 03:37 PM

Kids need to watch more cowboy movies and shit and learn to be men. I have been balled out much worse then that by Assistant Mangers in 4.25 min wage jobs when I was 16-17 years old. It sucked but I didn't even bat an eyelid.

ROYC75 11-23-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9144373)
Kids need to watch more cowboy movies and shit and learn to be men. I have been balled out much worse then that by Assistant Mangers in 4.25 min wage jobs when I was 16-17 years old. It sucked but I didn't even bat an eyelid.

He got the 1 game for putting his hand on him while angry like he was. He was very livid, you never lay hands on someone when angry like that.

Predarat 11-23-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9144461)
He got the 1 game for putting his hand on him while angry like he was. He was very livid, you never lay hands on someone when angry like that.

Then he should have punched him back and bloodied his nose. Better then crying about it.

Goldmember 11-23-2012 04:36 PM

If the coach was a white guy and did that to a black kid, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be leading protests on campus for the removal of the coach.

Predarat 11-23-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 9144487)
If the coach was a white guy and did that to a black kid, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be leading protests on campus for the removal of the coach.

And if a Black Coach did that to a White kid, they would be doing the same things except trying to spin it as the White kids fault somehow.

ModSocks 11-23-2012 05:08 PM

I guess i missed the part where the player cries. I didnt see any tears, just some puffing, which could be from anger or from....you know, playing basketball.

Dave Lane 11-23-2012 05:20 PM

Hire him. Yelling coaches are good, unless they are named Haley.

BWillie 11-23-2012 05:24 PM

You guys are honestly defending this guy? His actions were unacceptable. I played HS and a sport in college. Yelling at a kid right in his face and Grabbing a kids arm is one thing. pushing him like that is another. If a coach treated me like that he better be ready to get shoved back, and to the ground.

Al Bundy 11-23-2012 05:34 PM

Maybe he could publicly berate Scott Pioli into a sobbing mess?


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