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ghak99 11-09-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9102041)
On a side note, my second choice would be a 7mm. I can drill nails with that thing as well. I have never been a 30-06 fan and I have owned a few of them. With that being said, some guys love it.

You couldn't give me a 30-06. If you ask me, it's one of the most over rated rifles of all time.

demonhero 11-09-2012 05:31 PM

Go with a .30-06 for first rifle then .308

Shop places online.. as wally world, Dicks, and similar stores get crapped down versions sent by the manufactures and that's why they are cheap (cheap sometimes..deals are online).

Exoter175 11-09-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9102060)
That's cool, that's why gun manufactures make numerous calibers. All I can say is I have pulled off some 700 yard plus shots with the 300 and I love it.

My only issue with .300 ultra mag is the cost really, in my opinion there are better calibers out there for the money in terms of ammunition, like a 7MM RUM. But it all boils down to distance. If I've got to take something down at anything past 300 yards, I'd definitely opt for a .300 Ultra Mag over the .30-06 for sure, but I don't do much shooting past 300 yards to be honest.

Someone had some guns listed prior to this point, and I'd advise against the second one posted. You don't want to go hunting with a .223/5.56 :hmmm:

LiveSteam 11-09-2012 06:22 PM

243,25-06,270. I like rifles that you can make up or buy loads for whacking anything from P-dogs on up to Elk.

Dnt sell your self short either with the good old trusty American lever actions. Today's new lever action ammo in 30/30 has changed the game quite a bit

http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...775/775263.jpg



I seen this ammo take a 40lbs coyote & turn it inside out I bet the gut shot dog weighed less than 25lbs dead

R8RFAN 11-09-2012 06:30 PM

I always liked a .270 for a good flat shooting Deer Gun

LiveSteam 11-09-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9102189)
I always liked a .270 for a good flat shooting Deer Gun

Savage is going to start necking down the 22 hornet to .177. 3600 to 4000 fps
I cant wait to own one & blowup my first Crow. POOF & a big black cloud of feathers

R8RFAN 11-09-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9102210)
Savage is going to start necking down the 22 hornet to .177. 3600 to 4000 fps
I cant wait to own one & blowup my first Crow. POOF & a big black cloud of feathers

isn't .177 a pellet?

R8RFAN 11-09-2012 07:07 PM

Oh and Livesteam you are 100% correct, the 30/30 is not given the respect it deserves... I may go buy me one now..

Mizzou_8541 11-09-2012 07:12 PM

Remington 700. Learn to shoot with open sights first, then purchase your scope. You will be a better shooter that way.

Iowanian 11-09-2012 07:16 PM

I think a Winchester Model 70 .243 or .270 would be something to consider.

stonedstooge 11-09-2012 07:22 PM

First high powered rifle? Can't go wrong with a .243. Unless you plan on hunting something larger than whitetail right off the bat

rad 11-09-2012 07:31 PM

You can get a decent Savage in whatever caliber suits your hunting terrain for about 350. If you live in Bwana country, shooting mountain to mountain, a 7mm Rem Mag would be the ticket. In the dense forests where most shots on game are <100 yds, 30-30 or 06 is good enough. Personally I use my Remington 700 XHR in 7mm 08 for deer.

As far as optics, I'm happy with my Nikon Prostaff that cost around 160 bucks. Leupold snobs have given props to it, if that means anything.

Bwana 11-09-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9102100)
My only issue with .300 ultra mag is the cost really, in my opinion there are better calibers out there for the money in terms of ammunition, like a 7MM RUM. But it all boils down to distance. If I've got to take something down at anything past 300 yards, I'd definitely opt for a .300 Ultra Mag over the .30-06 for sure, but I don't do much shooting past 300 yards to be honest.

Someone had some guns listed prior to this point, and I'd advise against the second one posted. You don't want to go hunting with a .223/5.56 :hmmm:

Yeah I hear what you're saying, but a lot of my shots have been well over 300 yards and the 300 is flat and has a lot of knock down power when it hits. As far as the cost of ammo heh, one shot one kill. ;)

Bwana 11-09-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rad (Post 9102312)
You can get a decent Savage in whatever caliber suits your hunting terrain for about 350. If you live in Bwana country, shooting mountain to mountain, a 7mm Rem Mag would be the ticket. In the dense forests where most shots on game are <100 yds, 30-30 or 06 is good enough. Personally I use my Remington 700 XHR in 7mm 08 for deer.

As far as optics, I'm happy with my Nikon Prostaff that cost around 160 bucks. Leupold snobs have given props to it, if that means anything.

I have a Sako in a 7mm-08 and it is a good deer gun. I don't know if I would take it after elk though. If you get into a situation where you have a long shot, you could screw yourself.

I also agree with some other posts. It all depends on how far your average shot is where you're hunting. A 30-30 would work great for a 100 yard shot, but it it's a 400 yard shot, good luck.

seclark 11-09-2012 08:27 PM

30/30 for me.
i got some kinda shit that makes me shake like a whore in church...always have. so, i hunt in the thick timber, where i can hunker down and wait for something to come past me. gotta be close and big.

for just blasting shit, i got a sks w/a shitload of shells. it's fun.

have about 20 rifles and pistols handed down from my dad and grandfather. a lot of them i haven't shot in years, since they passed on. lots of stories.
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