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Originally Posted by chiefsfan4life1978 (Post 10294187)

Given Guthrie's age, I think a decline is very likely. I'd be surprised, albeit pleasantly, if he gives us 200 innings again. You're probably right on the ERA and WHIP though.

He'll be 35 at the start of the season, but he also has shown no signs of age/wear and tear. He's maintained an average fastball velocity right at 92.5 for several years (his AVG last year was the same as it was in 2010, for example).

He takes good care of himself, has good mechanics, and has never really been a flamethrower. I don't think we'll see his mid-30s destroy him like it does some pitchers.

And the dude is just an awesome guy.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10294207)

Sounds good to me. I hope you're right!

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10294192)

Problem with extending Shields is that anything KC can really afford to offer (which basically means a 3-year deal around $18-20 MM) is something he can likely surpass quite easily on the open market.

I think he's going to age well... he's got the frame to hold up to the innings load he has handled, his arsenal is one that should age well (fastball-changeup usually does), and he's a smart pitcher. But there's also a chance he turns into a Jeremy Guthrie sort before a 5 or 6 year deal is over.

Can't afford to take that risk if you're KC.

Pretty much. If we could even get a little crazy and go 3 for 66-75, I'd be great with it. But the Royals simply cannot risk having potentially $40M+ in dead money because of age.

Naturally, the risk of injury is always there for everyone.

Everytime the royals lose. Kirpatrick punches you in the stomach.

Coming from a Cardinals fan who's become a pseudo Royals fan from living in KC.

In regards to Shields, like the Cards have done with their young pitching and the influx the Royals have coming on, I'm not sure you go overboard any bit to sign Shields.

I would think the way to go is let him play it out, may the offer Deez just suggested and if he doesn't take it, probably let him walk, using this year to develop guys in the pipeline.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>FSKC will air a Christmas Eve marathon of 4 Royals games, condensed to 2 hours each, beginning at 2pm next Tuesday.</p>— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/statuses/413774157814300674">December 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2pm May 30 Royals come back in the 9th in a game that ends at 3:14am on day George Brett is named interim hitting coach.</p>— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/statuses/413774365893722112">December 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>4pm June 26 Braves at Royals, Alex Gordon homers to start the game and wins it with an RBI single in the 10th.</p>— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/statuses/413774427151552512">December 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>6pm July 24 Orioles at Royals Eric Hosmer’s home run ties it in the 8th, Alcides Escobar wins it in the 9th.</p>— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/statuses/413774673369776129">December 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>8pm home finale Sept 22 Rangers at Royals Justin Maxwell clubs a memorable walk-off grand slam. Enjoy everyone!!!</p>— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/statuses/413774877741424640">December 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If we dealt Hoch, Davis, and Bonifacio we'd have $13.8 million to pay Santana. If the draft pick does kill his market a la Lohse, that would be doable.

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10294372)

LMAO

**** it, I'll watch.

Dealing Hoch and Davis for prospects and using the proceeds to sign Santana for another one year deal? I am good with it. That would make our rotation look a lot better. Shields/Santana/Vargas/Guthrie/Duffy and if Ventura is just lighting the world on fire in AAA we can deal Santana at the break.

Great start to the thread. Like most of you, I'm a fan of most of what the team has done so far this offseason. Can't wait to see how the team comes together come the beginning of the season!

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 10294483)

If we dealt Hoch, Davis, and Bonifacio we'd have $13.8 million to pay Santana. If the draft pick does kill his market a la Lohse, that would be doable.

Not a chance in hell.

The last thing Santana is going to do is sign a 1-year deal. He will take the longest contract he can get. They all do.

I can't wait for the 2014 season.

I'm glad they could find four games that are worth watching again! Heh...progress, right? I've got a fever, and the only prescription, is eight hours of Royals Baseball! I'm sure Hud will be stoked!