San Diego could easily have won this division even with a healthy Peyton in Denver if they fired Norv.

Instead they're being talked about as the second banana to both Denver AND Kansas City.

I'm giving Romeo a chance this year, but if I even smell the faintest WHIFF of Norvesque failure on him, I'll demand he get fired.

Clay's statement is misleading because this franchise has already turned a corner. We came out of nowhere to win the division two years ago.. last year we were decimated by injuries and still found a way to be in the division race up until the final week of the season.

NFL people who are in the know recognize that Pioli has gone about his business and assembled one best rosters in the league. Quarterback or not, the roster is legitimate. We're going to be highly competitive for a while whether the self-loathing fans like it or not.

in the West we have:
Manning
Rivers
PalmerCassel

Manning has proved greatness and Rivers is the other QB in this division thats capable of greatness.

i'm just saying QB's are the most important players on offense that's needed for greatness from the team, Cassel and Palmer are excluded from the word "greatness".

Yep. The Chiefs will slide into 3rd place when all is done. I believe fans just expect Poe to be an all pro & Charles/Berry/Moeaki to just pick up where they all left off. The Chiefs just aren't that talented they can bounce back like that.

Peyton Manning owns this division. Now that he is part of it, he will put forth even greater effort to pummel the AFCW. Any fool believes he doesn't is not playing with a full deck.

Only thing KC has on Peyton is Romeo and without the right personnel, he isn't gonna be able to miff Mainning per usual. Makes it even harder when RC has to play Manning twice during the same season, too.

But, I didn't read the article - I don't follow women for sports/football news. That'd be lame.

Next year is the year, amirite?

yeah, i didn't read the article either, i said the day Manning announced he was going to Denver, the division is his unless he's not healthy.

he'll make their WR's look like all pros.

We found five ways.

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Not making any bold predictions about my team but I am just not seeing one old washed up fragile QB taking the AFC West by storm... THEY had this dude once named Elway and he even had a losing record as a starter vs my beloved Raiders..

Don't drink the Koolaid, Denver is not built to protect Manning as the Colts were and he is one good pop from standing over there holding a clipboard for the next 2 years.

Interesting.

The QB who was near the top of almost every statistical category was a liability, but not San Diego's 22nd ranked defense or 16th ranked running game.

I agree totally. With Matt at the helm why should we be feared to do anything but pull out a few wins. I think we can win the division if our ground game returns and we play tough defense but if this offense at any point has to fall on Matt then it's over.

Just like you expect Manning to pick where he left off? With a new team?

And I still think people are underestimating how much Manning's players around him helped him out. Especially the offensive line being able to adjust at the line of scrimmage correctly every time Peyton changes the blocking scheme 5 seconds before the play clock expires. He will get hit significantly more based on that fact alone, then you add the fact that Indy's offensive line was just better in general.

All of which are better than Palko.

Cassel or Orton started in 4 of those 5 wins.

Even if they didn't, those shitty QBs made our defense look better than it actually is.

Your point?

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Tyler Palko is not part of this equation.