The simple explanation is that the SEC wants to improve it's non-con basketball scheduling (Slive even talked about it recently, I'm sure you missed it because it was basketball related). The ACC-BIG already have a "challenge" so it's pretty much the Big 12 left sitting at the bar for last call.


And of course, the Big 12 wants to attach itself to the SEC as often as it can so we'll always put out.

The money isn't in 'rivalry games', its in TV packages. If you were correct then schools wouldn't be leaving their rivalry games left & right, but they did. Besides only a few rivalries have nationwide TV appeal anyway.

While I don't quite dismiss KU/MU as having no national appeal as much as you do your core point is correct. Kansas Basketball has ascended to a level where they simply can't be bothered by lower rung teams. Just look at the non-con KU is playing already. Kansas is out for huge ratings and huge money and from the SEC really only Kentucky and Florida can bring that at this time.


Nov. 8 (Friday) – LOUISIANA-MONROE, Lawrence, Kan.

Nov. 12 (Tuesday) – Duke, Chicago, Ill. (Champions Classic, United Center)

Nov. 19 (Tuesday) – IONA, Lawrence, Kan.

Nov. 22 (Friday) – TOWSON, Lawrence, Kan.

Nov. 28-30, Battle 4 Atlantis (Three games), Paradise Island, Bahamas

The field: Villanova, Tennessee, Iowa, UTEP, Xavier, USC and Wake Forest.

Dec. 7 (Saturday) – at Colorado, Boulder, Colo.

Dec. 10 (Tuesday) – at Florida, Gainesville, Fla.

Dec. 14 (Saturday) – NEW MEXICO, Kansas City, Mo. (Sprint Center)

Dec. 21 (Saturday) – GEORGETOWN, Lawrence, Kan.

Dec. 30 (Monday) – TOLEDO, Lawrence, Kan.

Jan. 5 (Sunday) – SAN DIEGO STATE, Lawrence, Kan.

PRISON BITCH AND SAUL GOOD..Could you please not turn this into another KU/MU pissing match!!!
I think this concept of playing other conferences for non-com is a great idea, it reminds me of the NFL...For example:
The AFC WEST have games against another AFC Divisions AND also play a couple of games against an NFC Division, the following years it switches to other divisions.
We could have the makings of something like that starting in the College ranks, SEC plays BIG12....Next year SEC plays PAC12, BIG12 plays BIG10..AND SO ON, AND SO ON.
This would eleminate playing CREAM PUFFS for NON-COM games, the only people getting hurt would be the Smaller Conferences and Schools.

MODS, if possible, could you please change the PREFIX so it doesn't reflect MIZZOU, just change it to BASKETBALL.

I suppose another way to look at it is that this brings us one (tiny) step closer to Slive's vision of a world without mid-majors. It will be interesting to see if he tries to put together an alliance with multiple conferences.

It would be cool if all of the major conferences did this with each other...maybe even x 2. Each major conference team would play two games against teams from each of the major conferences; one home game and one road game each season (not the same team for both games).

That would make for some great games and would still only take up 8 non-conference games per season.

**** off. I haven't done any of that here. It's not like you were having some discussion, anyway. You pasted an article to start thread and disappeared until your nearly unintelligible follow-up bitching about something that isn't even happening.

Looks to me like you did...I wanted to see what everybody thought of it, before I posted anymore, and I did....Whatever!!

I know arguing with you is pointless, so I'll make it brief.

The KU/MU rivalry is important to both schools. Regardless of what has been said, it's going to happen again and eventually, it will end up a yearly thing - at least in basketball. Although I'd love to see KU football take some huge steps and make football part of the equation as well. Might as well get used to the idea of it now.

I apparently misinterpreted all of your initial posts Saul, consider us back at odds.

You're severely overestimating the value of the Border War. Esp to KU basketball. Our fanbase tunes in to watch KU play, not MU play. You haven't explained how renewing the Border War makes KU additional revenue over playing non-cons at home. I'd like to see your math here.



Each year it goes without being played, the less attached people are to it. In 5-10 years, our students that will be on campus will be old enough that they won't even remember it being played.

The Colorado bball game on KU's schedule says hi......CU did leave the Big XII, remember?

So, in 5-10 years people won't even remember it? Are you sure you aren't talking about Nebraska? Colorado?

We already went through this once. I believe the reasons for this are laid out in the re-alignment thread, so do a search on it and you'll find out what htey are. I believe you were already in on it though, so it might just be a project you can do solo.

Tell Plow more about what KU fans want since, being a KU fan himself, he has no idea.

Don't look now, but I too misinterpreted all of my initial posts. Whereas I thought I was saying that the groundwork was being laid for some rivalries to be renewed, I was actually starting a pissing match...which can only mean...we're back in agreement...how meta...