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Tribal Warfare 05-31-2014 01:10 AM

Paylor: Demetrius Harris trying to catch on with Chiefs at tight end
 
Ex-basketball player Demetrius Harris trying to catch on with Chiefs at tight end
By TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star

At one point in his life, as recently as 14 months ago, basketball came first for Chiefs tight end Demetrius Harris.

For Harris, a 6-foot-7 power forward who averaged 9.1 points and 5.3 rebounds per game as a senior in 2012-2013 for Wisconsin-Milwaukee, the sport was clearly his first love, even after the Chiefs signed him as an undrafted free agent last spring.

Now, even one year later, Harris still admits he still hasn't quite eradicated basketball from his system. When he's not learning the finer points of being an NFL tight end, he even likes to hop over to a basketball court behind a church near his town home and get a few shots up.

“Every once in a while, just to shoot around,” Harris said,” I still have love for the game.”

But all it takes is a glimpse of him during the Chiefs ' practices to see that these days, football may slowly be winning out — with a huge assist to hoops.

“It helps a lot,” Harris said of his basketball background. “It's the reason for my ability to come in and out of the cuts, and in basketball, you've got to stay down and then go up the highest point you can (when rebounding).”

Though Harris dropped a few passes the first few days of rookie camp last week, he's since caught his coaches' eyes during the first three practices of organized training activities with a handful of impressive catches, including several over the middle in which he's reached high to pluck the ball out of the air over much-shorter defensive backs.

“I always used to catch (alley) oops,” Harris said. “So I love those high balls.”

He very clearly is relishing the opportunity to show it after spending all of last season on the practice squad. Any football player knows that playing on the scout team is no fun, but Harris understood that he needed time to develop, both mentally and physically, since he hadn't played football since his senior year at Jacksonville (Ark.) High School, where he caught 47 passes for 738 yards and nine touchdowns as a receiver his senior season and was all state.

“I was just waiting my turn and picking the veterans' brains, from (Anthony) Fasano) to (Sean) McGrath and even (Travis) Kelce,” Harris said. “They were helping me with the little details. Those guys are great because they always give me tips every time I need one. I lean on them.”

But while Harris admits his quest to master Andy Reid's intricate West Coast playbook is an ongoing battle — “it's reading the defense, knowing how to set up faster, just thinking quicker,” he said — it appears he's already made a significant transformation physically.

“I was at 225 (pounds) when I first got here, now I'm at 257,” Harris said. “It's big, because all offseason I was here working out with Barry (Rubin), our strength coach, and he's been getting me right with my upper body strength and keeping my speed up at this weight. It's been good — I feel a lot stronger.”

That's good, because Harris admitted he realized he certainly had a ways to go in that area when he first arrived in Kansas City.

“Whatever it took — my biggest downfall was my strength,” Harris said. “Basketball, we hardly lifted weights … we lifted, but it wasn't that heavy because we had games every two days.”

Now Harris, who could barely bench-press 225 pounds once when he began with the Chiefs, said he’s repping that regularly.

Reid said he can see the physical transformation.

“Oh absolutely,” Reid said. “First of all, he did a great job in the weight room. He and Barry became one there. They joined hips there and started working that son-of-a-gun to where he felt strong, and so far he’s been able to transfer that on the field, which is a good thing.”

The key for Harris, he said, will be making sure he continues to perform when the pads come on for training camp. So far, he's been starring in non-padded practices in helmets and shorts.

“It’s not live,” Reid said. “So we have to see that part of it as we go.”

But there's little doubt in Harris’ mind that he's closer to being able to do that than ever, thanks to his bright future and a budding love for the game.

“Yeah, I'm a football guy now,” Harris said. “Strictly football.”

milkman 05-31-2014 07:10 AM

We really need his guy to step up, because Kelce isn't likely to be healthy, and Fasano and McGrath are scrubs.

Just another sad example of pinning our hopes on a prayer.

Mike in SW-MO 05-31-2014 07:25 AM

My question is whether he can block. He needs at least some ability in that area if he wants to be a successful TE.

TRR 05-31-2014 07:49 AM

He'll be lucky to make the team. Although I would say goodbye to Fasano before I said goodbye to McGrath. McGrath does everything Fasano can do at a cheaper price, and is 4 years younger.
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BlackHelicopters 05-31-2014 08:21 AM

Kelce may never see the field. We need this guy to step up big time.

-King- 05-31-2014 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 10661945)
He'll be lucky to make the team. Although I would say goodbye to Fasano before I said goodbye to McGrath. McGrath does everything Fasano can do at a cheaper price, and is 4 years younger.
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He can't block.
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OldSchool 05-31-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 10661941)
My question is whether he can block. He needs at least some ability in that area if he wants to be a successful TE.

I don't care if he can't block if he can line up in the slot and be something close to what Jimmy Graham is as a receiver. The TE position has changed a lot, blocking is now second to receiving in a lot of systems.

jd1020 05-31-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10662009)
I don't care if he can't block if he can line up in the slot and be something close to what Jimmy Graham is as a receiver. The TE position has changed a lot, blocking is now second to receiving in a lot of systems.

Thank god the bar is set so low.

Harris, all you have to do is get close to a guy that puts up WR numbers.

Dunerdr 05-31-2014 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10662011)
Thank god the bar is set so low.

Harris, all you have to do is get close to a guy that puts up WR numbers.

Aj Jenkins bar is jerry rice what's the problem.

milkman 05-31-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 10661945)
He'll be lucky to make the team. Although I would say goodbye to Fasano before I said goodbye to McGrath. McGrath does everything Fasano can do at a cheaper price, and is 4 years younger.
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Almost anyone with any desire to work can be taught to adequately block.

Athletic ability can not be learned.

OldSchool 05-31-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10662011)
Thank god the bar is set so low.

Harris, all you have to do is get close to a guy that puts up WR numbers.

He has the physical ability to do it, now it's time to see if he has the fearlessness to fight through contact and make contested catches over the middle; also need to see what his football instincts are like in a real game, it'll probably take him at least another year before he gets a decent feel for how to get open consistently. I want to see if he can maintain his focus through the process of the catch when he knows that he can be lit up at any minute; Alex Smith is one of the QBs in this league who does a good job of preventing his receivers from getting lit up, so that might not be too much of a problem.

OldSchool 05-31-2014 09:13 AM

Is it bad that I've got more hope in Demetrius Harris than I do in Travis Kelce right now?

RealSNR 05-31-2014 09:47 AM

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mcaj22 05-31-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10662011)
Thank god the bar is set so low.

Harris, all you have to do is get close to a guy that puts up WR numbers.

lol seriously

"all you have to do is be Jimmy Graham and save our season"

thabear04 05-31-2014 10:12 AM

Hope he like a Julius Thomas he broke out last year.

SAUTO 05-31-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10662060)
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Wrong thread
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Chief_For_Life58 05-31-2014 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10662100)
Hope he like a Julius Thomas he broke out last year.

he would be if we had someone named Peyton manning throwing to him

Chief_For_Life58 05-31-2014 10:20 AM

what's up with kelce?

O.city 05-31-2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 10662108)
what's up with kelce?

He's a broke dick

ChiefsCountry 05-31-2014 10:24 AM

Next great NFL player
/Jesse Haynes, Ted White, Rich Scanlon, etc.

Dunerdr 05-31-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10662100)
Hope he like a Julius Thomas he broke out last year.

Shut your ****ing whore mouth. He's a Peyton prop.

thabear04 05-31-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10662131)
Shut your ****ing whore mouth. He's a Peyton prop.

Excuse me you forgot to say dirty whore.

Rausch 05-31-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10662116)
Next great NFL player
/Jesse Haynes, Ted White, Rich Scanlon, etc.

This.

The season is saved.

Everyone relax...

Mr. Laz 05-31-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10662004)
He can't block.
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He can learn


Blocking is about effort, he's big enough

Dunerdr 05-31-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10662179)
Excuse me you forgot to say dirty whore.

My apologies good sir!

thabear04 05-31-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10662552)
My apologies good sir!

Haha its all good. I know Manning could make any decent WR/TE/RB look good.

Dunerdr 05-31-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10662559)
Haha its all good. I know Manning could make any decent WR/TE/RB look good.

That's true. See all colts wr/te/rb prior to Curtis painter fiasco

OldSchool 05-31-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10662586)
That's true. See all colts wr/te/rb prior to Curtis painter fiasco

Uhh, Wayne and Garcon are still great Wrs and still put up good numbers even when Painter was throwing them the ball.

KCChiefsFan88 05-31-2014 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10661932)
Just another sad example of pinning our hopes on a prayer.

This is the basis for the Chiefs offseason strategy.

Fat Elvis 05-31-2014 04:28 PM

Eff all you guys. Demetrius Harris is my Adopt-a-Chief.

Demetrius Harris, bitches.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2014 05:08 PM

If he's 6'7" he needs to be weighin around 265-280

RealSNR 05-31-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10662741)
If he's 6'7" he needs to be weighin around 265-280

Ideally he shouldn't break 270.

He's already bulked up an extra (good) 25 pounds in the past year. That's pretty damn good. Reid said he's at 250 or 255 or so.

If he's as talented and athletic as people hope he is, that's a suitable playing weight. I mean, Jimmy Graham is 6'7 and 265. Harris could stand to bulk up a bit more, but not if it slows him down.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2014 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10662748)
Ideally he shouldn't break 270.

He's already bulked up an extra (good) 25 pounds in the past year. That's pretty damn good. Reid said he's at 250 or 255 or so.

If he's as talented and athletic as people hope he is, that's a suitable playing weight. I mean, Jimmy Graham is 6'7 and 265. Harris could stand to bulk up a bit more, but not if it slows him down.

I want him to be like Antonio Gates.
any idea what he weighs, he looks big.

planetdoc 05-31-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10662754)
I want him to be like Antonio Gates.
any idea what he weighs, he looks big.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=antonio+gates+weight

Deberg_1990 05-31-2014 05:34 PM

Cut around August 22nd
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thabear04 05-31-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10662761)

:clap::clap::clap::hmmm:

Pasta Giant Meatball 05-31-2014 07:09 PM

Julius Thomas clone only without Peydaton. JT shit star is a bum without jughead.

Mother****erJones 05-31-2014 07:11 PM

Hope he can become a playmaker. Worth a shot

InChiefsHell 05-31-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10662741)
If he's 6'7" he needs to be weighin around 265-280

Gonzo is less than 250. Just sayin...

Chiefshrink 05-31-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10662559)
Haha its all good. I know Manning could make any decent WR/TE/RB look good.

Yep ! Just watch Decker in NY !:rolleyes:

Pasta Giant Meatball 06-01-2014 06:01 AM

Delirium Tremens is overrated as **** too

Simply Red 06-01-2014 06:38 AM

Who? Again - no clue who this is - fitting we like him.

Pasta Giant Meatball 06-01-2014 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10663380)
Who? Again - no clue who this is - fitting we like him.

U no nuttin Simple Read/ Smed

Aspengc8 06-01-2014 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10663126)
Gonzo is less than 250. Just sayin...

gonzo not one of the better known blocking TE's. Just sayin...

SAUTO 06-01-2014 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10663126)
Gonzo is less than 250. Just sayin...

Only 6 5 though too
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Baby Lee 06-01-2014 07:15 AM

Quit overreacting people, he's a mild offseason interest story. Could produce, could be JAG.

unlurking 06-01-2014 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10663364)
Delirium Tremens is overrated as **** too

Never!

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Hog's Gone Fishin 06-01-2014 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10663126)
Gonzo is less than 250. Just sayin...

But he's not 6'7"

At 6'7" you should be 280 IMO

Can someone google up Antonio Gates height for me ?

SAUTO 06-01-2014 08:21 AM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Antonio+ gates+height
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planetdoc 06-01-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10663453)
Can someone google up Antonio Gates height for me ?

http://bit.ly/tGCzoW

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-01-2014 09:52 AM

I'm scared to click on those links. Can someone just tell me ?

Baby Lee 06-01-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10663619)
I'm scared to click on those links. Can someone just tell me ?

Ahh googluh, velly dangaroos!!

gonefishin53 06-01-2014 10:28 AM

As long as Harris maintains his speed and agility, it shouldn't make much difference how much weight he gains. If more weight compromises his 4.52 forty speed or his ability to get separation on his pass routes, he's less useful as a matchup problem and downfield threat in Reid's offense.

DTLB58 06-03-2014 08:49 AM

I liken Harris to this guy.

@NFL_ATL: Philip Rivers: 'Sky is still the limit' for TE Ladarius Green http://t.co/Ra70h461km

I think they are both up and coming, Ones ahead of the other obviously, but just goes to show you don't have to be drafted in the 1st rd. Again.

tecumseh 06-03-2014 09:15 AM

Yeah, yeah. Just keep bringin' it kid. There should be a spot for you. Dump Fasano.

rtmike 06-03-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10662009)
I don't care if he can't block if he can line up in the slot and be something close to what Jimmy Graham is as a receiver. The TE position has changed a lot, blocking is now second to receiving in a lot of systems.

That's what Bowes for.

Gadzooks 06-03-2014 01:09 PM

Wow, it must suck to have 0 decent TEs...


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