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BossChief 05-13-2014 09:51 PM

LNBS: trying to gauge roster cuts that might be of interest to the Chiefs
 
I don't work tomorrow and am bored, so I figured a good topic to have a discussion about would be what possible cuts from other teams might be able to help us out to add another piece or two before the season opener.

I had a discussion a month or two ago on how this draft is so deep and talented that I see some BIGTIME talents falling to teams that "just can't pass up the value" and how those types of picks will probably lead to a good amount of teams parting ways with some aging vets that still have gas in the tank, but high cap numbers. Those guys want to play, but some of these rookies are gonna take their jobs.

This is gonna be a thread I'll bump and try to do one team per post breaking down the position groups and how the rookies create logjams on each teams depth charts.

From there, I'll try to look at cap numbers of the vets to try and gauge which players might possibly be cut or traded before the start of the regular season.

Feel free to offer your own breakdowns of individual teams and maybe we can get a called shot somewhere in this thread of a guy were able to add through a trade (possibly player for player trade) or signing after being cut.

I'm gonna start with our own division and think the first team I'll do is San Diego.

Here was there draft class.

1) Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
2) Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, GT
3) Chris Watt, OG, Notre Dame
5) Ryan Carrethers, NT, Arkansas St
6) Marion Grice, RB, Arizona St
7) Tevin Reese, WR, Baylor

They have 10 corners (inluding Verrett) on their roster and the only guy over 26 is Richard Marshall. I'm not sure i see anything shaking loose there.

They have 8 OLBs on their roster and can see a couple guys I wouldn't mind picking up.

Melvin Ingram
Jeremy Attachuo
Larry English
Jarrett Johnson
Dwight Freeney

I would guess Freeney would be the first guy out, but he just renegotiated his contract with them in march. I'd love to add any of the other guys on that list, if its possible to do so. Highly doubtful they would trade with us, but if they want to cut one of them, I'd expect KC to be active in perusing any of them.

They were thin at guard as is, so I don't see their guards as possible cut we would have interest in. Same goes with NT.

Marion Grice is a very nice receiving back and I was hoping we would take him with one of our seconds.

Donald Brown
Ryan Matthews
Danny Woodhead
Marion Grice

I wouldn't think a pick like Grice would really push any of those guys out and even if it does, the only guy I could see us having interest in would be Woodhead.

WR was a position of need from them and I like the Reese pick. That kid can flat out fly and even though e is small has shown the ability to break a game open.

This is a position I could see us going after scraps

Ajirotutu
Allen
Brown
Floyd
Royal

They also have 7 rookies on their roster...Floyd would cost them over a million to cut so he's out and he is the only vet making good money.

All in all, them moving up to take Attachuo probably means they either cut or trade either

Jarrett Johnson would cost them 1.5 million to cut... Larry English is in the last year of his contract and would save SD 1.5 million to cut...Melvin Ingram would cost them almost 2 million to cut.

So...I'm not sure the draft class of SD is gonna really cause them to move on from anyone that they would save anything with, but I could see them trading Larry English if anybody offered them a ham sandwich for him.

jjchieffan 05-14-2014 05:40 AM

You said they have 10 cb on their roster and none shake loose? I assume you meant 10 db. I can't see any team keeping 10 cb on a 53 man roster.

cabletech94 05-14-2014 06:33 AM

we also didn't have two 2nds.....

/just bustin' your bawlls



p.s. i really enjoy lists like these. and could never assemble anything like it. like a bauce.

planetdoc 05-14-2014 06:40 AM

Before the chiefs can sign anyone they have to cut some people. Who is vulnerable to being cut?

J Diddy 05-14-2014 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10629079)
You said they have 10 cb on their roster and none shake loose? I assume you meant 10 db. I can't see any team keeping 10 cb on a 53 man roster.

You've never heard of the infamous 1-9-1 defense? It's Bartee tested and Robinson approved.

BossChief 05-14-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10629079)
You said they have 10 cb on their roster and none shake loose? I assume you meant 10 db. I can't see any team keeping 10 cb on a 53 man roster.

Nobody worth a damn, anyway.

I think we have an excellent position group of corners and don't see anyone they have there as worth adding to our roster even if they get cut and come straight to 1 arrowhead dr asking to mow lawns for a living.

RealSNR 05-14-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10629095)
Before the chiefs can sign anyone they have to cut some people. Who is vulnerable to being cut?

Eric Fisher

milkman 05-14-2014 09:15 AM

Looking forward to the research on GB, cause my ass is too lazy to do it myself.

But with 3 WRs in this draft, there almost certainly has to be one that shakes loose there.

The Franchise 05-14-2014 09:17 AM

Current Green Bay WRs

Jordy Nelson
Randall Cobb
Jarrett Boykin
Davante Adams (R)
Jared Abbrederis (R)
Kevin Dorsey
Jeff Janis (R)
Chris Harper
Alex Gillett
Myles White

Nelson, Cobb and Boykin are all FAs after this year.

ct 05-14-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10629258)
Looking forward to the research on GB, cause my ass is too lazy to do it myself.

But with 3 WRs in this draft, there almost certainly has to be one that shakes loose there.

Exactly what I'm looking for...WR Jeff Janis, 7th round flyer for the packers. May not make the 53 over obvious keepers Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, and higher drafted Abbrederis, so he's battling for the 5th WR spot on active roster. More likely they try to sqeeze him on the PS, and think we should pounce!

ct 05-14-2014 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10629261)
Current Green Bay WRs

Jordy Nelson
Randall Cobb
Jarrett Boykin
Davante Adams (R)
Jared Abbrederis (R)
Kevin Dorsey
Jeff Janis (R)
Chris Harper
Alex Gillett
Myles White

Nelson, Cobb and Boykin are all FAs after this year.

Damn totally forgot Adams too!! thanks Pestilence

milkman 05-14-2014 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 10629265)
Exactly what I'm looking for...WR Jeff Janis, 7th round flyer for the packers. May not make the 53 over obvious keepers Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, and higher drafted Abbrederis, so he's battling for the 5th WR spot on active roster. More likely they try to sqeeze him on the PS, and think we should pounce!

We are not at the top of the waiver claims list this year, so any hope of picking up a young guy with potential on the waiver wire is virtually non-existent.

We have to be looking for veteran cuts that won't be required to go through the waiver process.

OldSchool 05-14-2014 09:27 AM

How about focusing on possible WR cuts?

Only team I see that might cut someone worth bringing in is GB or SF. Everyone else who drafted multiple WRs had bad WR cores to begin with.

milkman 05-14-2014 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10629271)
How about focusing on possible WR cuts?

Only team I see that might cut someone worth bringing in is GB or SF. Everyone else who drafted multiple WRs had bad WR cores to begin with.

Or safety cuts?
Or ILB?

What about OL?

This team still has a shit ton of holes.

saphojunkie 05-14-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10629258)
Looking forward to the research on GB, cause my ass is too lazy to do it myself.

But with 3 WRs in this draft, there almost certainly has to be one that shakes loose there.

Here you go...




Quote:

Originally Posted by GREEN BAY DRAFT PICKS
RD PLAYER
1 H. Clinton-Dix - S
2 D. Adams - WR
3 K. Thornton - DT
3 R. Rodgers -TE
4 C. Bradford - OLB
5 C. Linsley - C
5 J. Abbrederis - WR
6 D. Goodson - CB
7 J. Janis - WR

Right now, the Packers are in no need to ditch a wide receiver. The ones on their roster are:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CURRENT ROSTER
JORDY NELSON - 4.35M
RANDALL COBB - 1.0M
CHRIS HARPER - 495K
MYLES WHITE - 495K
KEVIN DORSEY - 420K
JARRETT BOYKIN - 570K

Jordy Nelson has the NINTH HIGHEST cap number at only $4.35M. There isn't a single other receiver making 7 figures on the team, including Randall Cobb, whose cap number is 1M but his base salary is 800k.

The rest of those guys are all under 3 years in the league, a few of them UDFA, and almost none of them have any real game experience. Jarrett Boykin caught 49 passes last year - his third in the league.

Additionally, the Packers are $15M under the cap right now with no big contracts that need to be redone. All of their top 30 players are locked into TOTALLY AFFORDABLE deals through 2015.

So, in summation, anyone who "shakes loose" from the Packers will do so, less like money shaking loose from your pocket, and more like a crumbly turd shaking loose from your asshole.


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