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warpaint99 12-22-2004 03:11 PM

DRAFT. Corner, Def-end will be the position. You can find MLB free agent...
 
Do you agree. I hear all you talking about MLB but we can't keep throwing picks at that position. Kawika and beisel might be able to handle it there.

OLB might be needed in the draft but I want Corner or Defensive end.

Agree ?

nascher 12-22-2004 03:36 PM

yes

Lbs via Free Agency

htismaqe 12-22-2004 03:44 PM

Corner and DE are the two biggest needs IMO.

Hoover 12-22-2004 03:47 PM

Yes, I've been saying that for a while. We still need to draft LBs, but we can find a starting MLB in FA.

Chiefnj 12-22-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint99
Do you agree. I hear all you talking about MLB but we can't keep throwing picks at that position. Kawika and beisel might be able to handle it there.

OLB might be needed in the draft but I want Corner or Defensive end.

Agree ?

Other than Mitchell how many MLB's have the Chiefs drafted in the last 5 or 6 years? I don't see them throwing picks at the position.

I think they need a dominant MLB, a DE and a CB (in that order).

HC_Chief 12-22-2004 03:51 PM

Mitchell and Beisel cannot 'handle' MLB... they've proven that much.

MLB = the defense's QB. If there's a stud MLB available in the draft, you take him. If not, Corner. RDE would be nice, but it's the least of our defensive weaknesses right now.

Hoover 12-22-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Other than Mitchell how many MLB's have the Chiefs drafted in the last 5 or 6 years? I don't see them throwing picks at the position.

I think they need a dominant MLB, a DE and a CB (in that order).

Is there a MLB worth Drafting in the 1st round?

I say go with Hartwell from the Ravens.

Chiefnj 12-22-2004 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover
Is there a MLB worth Drafting in the 1st round?

I say go with Hartwell from the Ravens.

Probably not. I was just commenting on the mistatement that the Chiefs have thrown picks at that position in recent years.

I think pursuing a free agent MLB is probably the best approach, but two of the better guys - Hartwell and Bell play in a 3-4 and I think there would be a problem in adjusting to a 4-3 early in the season.

HC_Chief 12-22-2004 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover
Is there a MLB worth Drafting in the 1st round?

I say go with Hartwell from the Ravens.

Hartwell would be great. I'd actually prefer a vet MLB at this point (considering our recent track record in the draft).

That kid out of Virginia, Ahmad Brooks, would be a nice fit IMO.

Rain Man 12-22-2004 04:05 PM

I'd love to draft a dominant MLB, but realistically I don't see it happening as they give Mitchell another year or two to learn how to play football.

If we don't draft an MLB, I'd vote for an OLB. Is Barber going to be back? Is he a good answer anyway? If not him, then who's going to be our SLB next year? Unless someone steps up and seizes the job, I see a gaping hole at that position.

Hoover 12-22-2004 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Probably not. I was just commenting on the mistatement that the Chiefs have thrown picks at that position in recent years.

I think pursuing a free agent MLB is probably the best approach, but two of the better guys - Hartwell and Bell play in a 3-4 and I think there would be a problem in adjusting to a 4-3 early in the season.

I'm sick of this "they play in a 3-4" crap. Hartwell is a playmaker and has had the best mentor one could have. Singleterry and Lewis, I say give the dude a chance, whats the worst that happens? He doesn't make it at MLB but replaces someone at OLB.

He's played inside linebacker and has the size.

tk13 12-22-2004 04:08 PM

Same thing as last year for me... I want a CB, but I don't want to rely on all our secondary improvement coming from rookies... I'm all for drafting a CB or two but don't stop there, we've got to bring in a veteran because of the more "touchy feely" contact enforcement plus the speed of the game adjustment a college CB will have to make in the pros.

LiL stumppy 12-22-2004 04:12 PM

There not going to get a MLB.Kawika will get better with more time with Gun.I still do belive he will be good.He isn't the reason we are losing football games.Its our corner and maybe the DE position.I say get a Corner,DE,and let Kawika develop.

HC_Chief 12-22-2004 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Same thing as last year for me... I want a CB, but I don't want to rely on all our secondary improvement coming from rookies... I'm all for drafting a CB or two but don't stop there, we've got to bring in a veteran because of the more "touchy feely" contact enforcement plus the speed of the game adjustment a college CB will have to make in the pros.

Unless he's your top pick. I HATE it when we draft a player high, then sit him behind some shitty 'vet'. You made the guy your #1 pick for a reason. Now put him on the field and let him do his job.

HC_Chief 12-22-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy
There not going to get a MLB.Kawika will get better with more time with Gun.I still do belive he will be good.He isn't the reason we are losing football games.Its our corner and maybe the DE position.I say get a Corner,DE,and let Kawika develop.

He's had enough time... he's "developed" into a non-tackling, slow, poor angle-taking, give up on plays MLB. He is backup material and ST fodder at best.

Time to move on.


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