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htismaqe 02-24-2005 05:36 PM

Looking for good multi-purpose video card...
 
OK, I'm looking for a solution that can do PC-TV, some basic DVR, and most importantly I want to capture video from my VHS-C camera and put it on my PC to be burned to DVD's.

This is what I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-307&depa=0

Saulbadguy 02-24-2005 06:01 PM

Well, buy it already. Except thats not a video card, its a tuner card only. I'm assuming thats what you need though.

htismaqe 02-24-2005 06:34 PM

Yeah, I already have an nVidia video card, guess I should have said that... :D

It the ATI card a good one? It's rather inexpensive compared to AverMedia and Pinnacle. I know that ATI makes good video cards, but I've never used them.

Saulbadguy 02-24-2005 06:43 PM

Well, I use an ATI AIW 9800, so i'm assuming it includes similar hardware and software for the TV portion of the product, and I love it.

htismaqe 02-24-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Well, I use an ATI AIW 9800, so i'm assuming it includes similar hardware and software for the TV portion of the product, and I love it.

From the looks of it, it's basically the same card, without the video accelerator...

Pants 02-25-2005 02:42 AM

I'm a big nVidia fan (read: dislike ATI), but All-In-Wonder is pretty much as good as it gets. Also, make sure it'll be compatible with your video card, I don't think ATI and nVidia drivers mix together well.

htismaqe 02-25-2005 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike
I'm a big nVidia fan (read: dislike ATI), but All-In-Wonder is pretty much as good as it gets. Also, make sure it'll be compatible with your video card, I don't think ATI and nVidia drivers mix together well.

Well, as far as I can tell, the ATI isn't a video card at all...

I don't want to deal with driver issues...

Saulbadguy 02-25-2005 07:39 AM

You won't have driver issues.

fbodyman 02-25-2005 10:50 AM

I'm looking at this one. It's about $100 at CompUSA, but they have in the past rebated it to $70. It uses a hardware MPEG-2 encoder instead of the computer processor. Also lets you pause, rewind etc.

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/produ...ta_pvr150.html

Baby Lee 02-25-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Well, I use an ATI AIW 9800, so i'm assuming it includes similar hardware and software for the TV portion of the product, and I love it.

Have you tried MCE yet? It's the shiznit. Almost exactly like TiVO, where you can keep it on the lookout for episodes of shows, wherever they pop up. Wish I could integrate with my Satellite somehow, but my new sat receiver is HD, and thus only puts out S-Vid, Component and DVI. No more running an R-6 line back to the office. If I learn enough about girder to run my satellite from the computer, I'm playing with getting rid of the office/desk atogether and putting the computer into the home theater.

Baby Lee 02-25-2005 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodyman
I'm looking at this one. It's about $100 at CompUSA, but they have in the past rebated it to $70. It uses a hardware MPEG-2 encoder instead of the computer processor. Also lets you pause, rewind etc.

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/produ...ta_pvr150.html

If you are at all interested in Windows Media Center Edition, either get the hardware encoder types, or get ready to fiddle. MS wants a hardware encoder in MCE, and is poo-poohing any driver development for software decoding cards in MCE. I got around it with my AIW9800 and HDTV Wonder, but not with ATI's help.

Baby Lee 02-25-2005 11:58 AM

Also, I don't know what level of quality you're wanting, but ATI just came out with a TV Wonder Elite that, for the first time, carries ISF licensed software and hardware, what the pros use to get the most out of displays.

Think Sony KV -v- XBR, or Mitsu -v- Mistu Elite.

http://www.ati.com/products/tvwonderelite/
http://www.ati.com/products/tvwonderelite/features.html

Thig Lyfe 02-25-2005 08:19 PM

Is it just me, or did the title of this thread sound like a personal ad?

htismaqe 02-28-2005 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee
If you are at all interested in Windows Media Center Edition, either get the hardware encoder types, or get ready to fiddle. MS wants a hardware encoder in MCE, and is poo-poohing any driver development for software decoding cards in MCE. I got around it with my AIW9800 and HDTV Wonder, but not with ATI's help.

You're talking about the MPEG-2 encoder? ATI's "Wonder" chipset is a hardware-based MPEG-2 encoder. I was just using it yesterday.

That being said, I have Windows XP Pro, not MCE. I used the TV Wonder for about 20 minutes before I realized that with my older Nvidia graphics card and the TV Wonder, I have no hardware DVD DECODER. I'd been using a software codec from Intervideo to watch DVD's in Windows Media Player. (didn't even realize it I guess)

So I took the TV Wonder back, and bought the AIW9800.

Baby Lee 02-28-2005 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
You're talking about the MPEG-2 encoder? ATI's "Wonder" chipset is a hardware-based MPEG-2 encoder. I was just using it yesterday.

That being said, I have Windows XP Pro, not MCE. I used the TV Wonder for about 20 minutes before I realized that with my older Nvidia graphics card and the TV Wonder, I have no hardware DVD DECODER. I'd been using a software codec from Intervideo to watch DVD's in Windows Media Player. (didn't even realize it I guess)

So I took the TV Wonder back, and bought the AIW9800.

Sorry, I should have specified. It's the TV tuner encoder that is software for the AIWs.

Not totally related, but in a strange bit of irony, the HDTV Wonder has both a Digital Tuner and an Analog Tuner on it, so you get OTA HDTV and regular OTA TV [no QAM], and PiP from one card if you know your way around graphedit. BUT, the digital tuner is HW and the the analog tuner is SW. Not a problem under XP, but again, MCE requires a HW tuner, AND the Digital Tuner needs an analog tuner to set itself up, finding channels and the TiVO [Zap2It] guide.

I have the AIW9800Pro and the HDTVW. It took some research and some fiddling, but I can now, if I wish, view or record 3 seperate sources at a time, one of them being HiDef. Worth the work, natch.


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