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ChiTown 04-21-2006 11:47 AM

Allright, you KU fans, what's the latest on the NCAA Violations?
 
Haven't seen anything in print, but a buddy of mine says that most of the allegations are with FB and MBB.

Anyone?

Eleazar 04-21-2006 11:52 AM

They don't exist. It's only other schools that get violations.

Skip Towne 04-21-2006 11:55 AM

There are none. We never cheat. Maybe you meant Mizzou. :shrug:

ChiTown 04-21-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise
They don't exist. It's only other schools that get violations.

Heh.

Not this time. When your head football coach gets caught cheating on his Certification Exam, that's a problem - and a violation .

It will be interesting to see how our feathered friends try and talk their way out of this. The squirming should be fun to watch.

:)

redbrian 04-21-2006 11:59 AM

Well it's only about academic fraud so it’s not like it's a real violation that means anything.

Eleazar 04-21-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Heh.

Not this time. When your head football coach gets caught cheating on his Certification Exam, that's a problem - and a violation .

It will be interesting to see how our feathered friends try and talk their way out of this. The squirming should be fun to watch.

:)

Take your pick from some of the likely ones:

-It's no big deal
-Yeah, well, your violations are worse than our violations
-We self-reported so they don't matter
-Every school does it, we just got caught
-Compare self to Missouri in some way (oops! That one already got run out there!)

Skip Towne 04-21-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise
Take your pick from some of the likely ones:

-It's no big deal
-Yeah, well, your violations are worse than our violations
-We self-reported so they don't matter
-Every school does it, we just got caught
-Compare self to Missouri in some way (oops! That one already got run out there!)

Yeah, I'm down with #2 and #5.

Braincase 04-21-2006 12:11 PM

Yep look our problems are rearing their ugly heads... just like Mizzou had their problems, and eventually (inevitable with Huggins) KSU...

greg63 04-21-2006 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
There are none. We never cheat. Maybe you meant Mizzou. :shrug:


Yep!


Jay Hawkers don't cheat; your thinking of Sooners. :D

Pitt Gorilla 04-21-2006 12:21 PM

Academic fraud is just about the worst violation there can be (in terms of the NCAA).

jidar 04-21-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
Academic fraud is just about the worst violation there can be (in terms of the NCAA).

worse than raping strippers?

Oh shit. I went there

Saulbadguy 04-21-2006 12:24 PM

I think it's mainly the FB program who is ****ed.

redbrian 04-21-2006 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
Academic fraud is just about the worst violation there can be (in terms of the NCAA).

The NCAA may care about academic fraud but Kansans don’t, but then what would you expect from a state more interested in forcing pseudoscience down children’s throats and forcing the suburbs to under fund their school districts.

Brock 04-21-2006 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbrian
The NCAA may care about academic fraud but Kansans don’t, but then what would you expect from a state more interested in forcing pseudoscience down children’s throats and forcing the suburbs to under fund their school districts.

Ha haaa. A Missourian putting down Kansas schools. Taken a look at KC schools recently?

Saulbadguy 04-21-2006 12:30 PM

THE NCAA'S ALLEGATIONS AGAINST KU

10 major, one secondary -- made against the Kansas athletic department from 1997-2005. KU self-reported most allegations to the NCAA in June 2005. Unnamed players and coaches have been redacted by KU.

FOOTBALL

1. Unethical conduct

In August 2003, a graduate assistant football coach arranged to receive a Math 110 exam (a correspondence course from Brigham Young) for a prospective player from the player's proctor. The exam was provided to the player with the understanding that he could take it without a proctor present.

2. Unethical conduct

In August 2003, a graduate assistant football coach provided answers to questions for a Geology 101 exam (a correspondence course from Brigham Young) to two prospective players while they completed the exams in the coach's dorm room during fall football camp.

3. Recruiting

In the summer of 2003, athletic department staffers provided impermissible assistance to seven prospective football players who lived on campus in order to work out and complete online correspondence courses prior to enrollment. That includes using support services facilities, hiring local high school teacher Jama Crady as a proctor, impermissible transportation between campus and Crady's high school, training table meals, use of workout facilities and nutritional supplements following workout sessions.

4. Recruiting

In the spring of 2003, assistant football coach Tyrone Dixon provided prospective player Monroe Weekley a KU rain jacket, sweatshirt and baseball cap while on a recruiting visit in Aliquippa, Pa. (Weekley played for KU in 2003.) In August 2003, Dixon provided Weekley with about 16 casual collared shirts that Dixon had owned and worn so that Weekley could be in compliance with the team's dress code.

5. Recruiting; contact and evaluation of prospects

On Nov. 23, 2003 and Dec. 12, 2004, graduate assistant football coaches had impermissible off-campus contact with prospective players while they drove them from campus to the prospects' homes before their official paid visits.

MEN'S BASKETBALL

6. Recruiting; benefits, gifts and services

From 2003-05, Don Davis, a representative of KU athletic interests, provided Darnell Jackson and Jackson's family with improper benefits while Jackson was being recruited by KU and after he enrolled. Among the allegations:

• Davis provided Jackson and Jackson's family transportation to games, gifts and lodging while Jackson was being recruited.

• Davis drove Jackson from Oklahoma City to six KU home games (valued at $534).

• Davis drove Jackson's mother and grandmother to a summer all-star game (valued at $28).

• In 2003 and 2004, Davis drove Jackson's younger brother to restaurants and purchased his meals; to movies and junior high football games, paying for his admission.

• Davis drove Jackson to St. Louis for KU's third and fourth NCAA Tournament games in March 2004 (valued at $140). He also paid for meals and hotel (valued at $89). He also provided Jackson free admission into the games.

• In June 2004, upon Jackson's high school graduation, Davis bought three shirts and three pairs of shorts for Jackson from Burlington Coat Factory (valued at $120).

• In June 2004, Davis drove Jackson and his mother to KU for Jackson's initial enrollment. He drove Jackson's mother back to Oklahoma City (total value of $90).

• In December 2004, Davis made arrangements for Jackson's mother to purchase Jackson's 1996 Chevrolet S-10 pickup for $2,500, with the agreement that Jackson's mother would make a $500 down payment and pay Davis $150 a month with no interest to pay off the balance.

• In February 2005, Davis provided Jackson's mother with a $2,400 loan so she could buy a 1995 Honda Passport ($4,900) for Jackson. Jackson's mother traded in the pickup truck for $2,500 and needed Davis' assistance to play the remaining $2,400.

• In 2004 and 2005, Davis at least eight times drove Jackson's mother or younger from OKC to Lawrence for games (value of $712). He also allowed Jackson's mother to drive his vehicle to at least two games.

• Between 12-15 times in 2004 and 2005, David bought meals for Jackson and/or his family after games (valued at $120).

• On multiple occasions in 2004 and 2005, Davis bought groceries and toiletries for Jackson (valued at $100).

• In November 2004, Davis bought a $100 Wal-Mart gift card for Jackson as a birthday gift.

• At least five times in 2004 or 2005, Davis gave Jackson cash, typically $5 each time (value of $25).

• After Jackson's initial enrollment in 2004, David bought a fan for Jackson (value of $20).

• At least five times in 2004 or 2005, Davis allowed Jackson to drive his vehicle around Lawrence (value of $17.50).

7. Benefits, gifts and services

In 2003-04 and 2004-05, Davis provided J.R. Giddens and Giddens' family improper benefits while Giddens was enrolled at KU. Among the allegations:

• During the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons, Davis drove Giddens' mother to four KU games: at Texas Christian, Missouri, and two games in Lawrence (total value of $367).

• At least twice during the summer of 2005, Davis drove Giddens from his home to Wichita so that Giddens could see a doctor about his leg injury. Davis also drove Giddens back home from Lawrence to collect his belongings (total value of $90).

• During the summer of 2005, Davis allowed Giddens to use his vehicle once.

• During the summer of 2004, Davis bought a meal for an unnamed player at a restaurant near KU with an approximate $25 value. The next summer, Davis bought meals for Giddens and Jackson worth $7 each. Davis drove the players from campus to the restaurant and back. Davis also bought a meal for an unnamed player for $10.

8. Benefits, gifts and services

From 1987-88 through 2003-04, at least three people (Dana Anderson, Joan Edwards, Bernard Morgan) with interest in the KU athletic department provided gifts, including cash, to graduating men's basketball players. Gifts ranged from $25-400, lifetime alumni association memberships, and suits.

WOMEN'S BASKETBALL

9. Recruiting

In the fall of 2002, former assistant women's coach Tim Eatman provided impermissible transportation to an unnamed prospective player by driving her from an off-campus dormitory to an on-campus testing facility.

MULTIPLE PROGRAMS

10. Secondary violations

From 1997-98 through 2002-03, there are 26 allegations of secondary violations. Those violations are not uncommon, though in this case they went unreported by KU for some time. Allegations range from an assistant baseball coach recruiting before he has passed a certification test to overpaying a prospective track athlete mileage money by $20.

ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT

11. Lack of institutional control

From 1997-98 to 2002-03, the NCAA alleges that the KU athletic department "demonstrated a failure to exert appropriate institutional control and monitoring in the conduct and administration of its athletics program... "Among the allegations:

• KU left its compliance auditor position vacant for 20 months between August 1997 and December 2002, even though members of the compliance staff had complained of a lack of manpower in the program.

• The department failed to report secondary violations in a timely manner from December 1997 to March 2003.

• The department failed to provide NCAA rules education to "representatives of athletics interests" from at least 1997-98 to 2002-03.

• Football staff and support services staff were aware that prospective football players were living on campus from May-August 2003, yet they didn't attempt to determine what services were available to those prospects.


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