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'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2008 06:02 PM

Why Turk McBride Sucks
 
Other than the fact that we see him prove it on the field.

The McBride pick was a waste of a prime draft spot

The McBride pick cost us a chance at Ryan Kalil

The McBride pick may very well cause us to pass on Sedrick Ellis and take a less effective player like Jake Long because Herm will think that Turk still has potential.

fuck.

Silock 01-01-2008 06:11 PM

He's a rookie.

I hate the fact that our society is so ingrained with the instant gratification mindset that we lose patience with absolutely everything.

He might turn out to suck, like you say. Or he might be good. He needs more time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2008 06:15 PM

It's not just about McBride, it reflects how our need-based strategy of drafting fucks us continually.

Mr. Laz 01-01-2008 06:15 PM

This thread was very misleading

i thought i was actually going to hear a "why" that Turk McBride sucks ..... and here i am with no proof that he even DOES suck.

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Other than the fact that we see him prove it on the field.

The McBride pick was a waste of a prime draft spot

The McBride pick cost us a chance at Ryan Kalil

The McBride pick may very well cause us to pass on Sedrick Ellis and take a less effective player like Jake Long because Herm will think that Turk still has potential.

fuck.

Alright, Genius. Google the 2007 NFL draft. In the majority of mock drafts, Turk was a high second round choice and Tank was a low second round choice.

The Chiefs based their evaluations of Turk & Tank the same as just about anyone else scouting or drafting. Neither can be considered "reaches".

Additionally, please provide an example of a recent second round DT drafted by ANY NFL team that dominated.

el borracho 01-01-2008 06:17 PM

Well, I would give Turk (and Tyler) more time to develop but he certainly hasn't done anything that would indicate we are set at the position. If Herm and/ or Carl think we are set at DT then they are even less intelligent than I thought.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Alright, Genius. Google the 2007 NFL draft. In the majority of mock drafts, Turk was a high second round choice and Tank was a low second round choice.

The Chiefs based their evaluations of Turk & Tank the same as just about anyone else scouting or drafting. Neither can be considered "reaches".

Additionally, please provide an example of a recent second round DT drafted by ANY NFL team that dominated.

Kris Jenkins, Shaun Rogers to name a couple, fucktard.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2008 06:24 PM

I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

morphius 01-01-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

I looked at it as a way to dump Eric Hicks...

Chiefmanwillcatch 01-01-2008 06:28 PM

Defensive ends need speed and quickness to succeed.

I don't see it.

Tyler showed me some things but we need to see more improvement.

Anyone know of any Dtackles in the draft last season that helped their teams?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius
I looked at it as a way to dump Eric Hicks...


If it was the reasoning, I'd like it a lot more, but it seemed like we wasted a 2nd rounder on a guy to be insurance for a four game window of Jared Allen and to show him that we have another warm body to take his place.

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Kris Jenkins, Shaun Rogers to name a couple, fucktard.

Shaun Rogers had ankle surgery after the 2000 season and slipped to the second round of the 2001 draft because most teams felt he would miss his entire rookie season, making it a blown pick. Had he not broken his leg, he most certainly would have been a first round pick.

In 16 games, Kris Jenkins had 34 tackles in his first season. I wouldn't exactly call that dominant.

FAX 01-01-2008 06:33 PM

I think about the twin turds the same way I think about Croyle. It's really difficult to know if they're going to pan out or not at this point, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins.

The unfortunate fact is that our coaching staff is a gaggle of knuckleheads trying to organize a goat fuck. All we really know is that it's not suitable for small children, pregnant women, or anybody with a pacemaker or a stent.

As for affecting this year's draft, you may be right. Either way, it's going to be interesting to see what our brain trust does. If the reports are true that we're not planning to be very active in FA, they better draft their asses off.

FAX

Messier 01-01-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

It was a pick at a need position in the spot where he was projected to go. If he doesn't work out he can join the other 1/3 or so of other picks that don't.

Silock 01-01-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
It's not just about McBride, it reflects how our need-based strategy of drafting fucks us continually.

You won't get any disagreement from me there. However, I think this year, we're in a position to just go BAA on all picks.


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