Excellent article for the anti-Croyle crowd.
 

It makes some good points and gives insight to why we have so many chicken littles on this board.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...leinart/1.html

Yes, Trent Dilfer is a shining example of the best QB ever...... BLAH

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meaning we are afraid that Croyle could turn into Trent Dilfer?

Meaning that 6 starts behind a crappy O-line is hardly enough evidence to make a decision on the guy's future potential.

But but but he sucks!!!! :rolleyes:

"If you get to start your career with a couple years on the bench before you have to play, like a Tony Romo or a Steve McNair or a Chad Pennington, then you can judge them quickly when they get their chance to play. But to be thrown in the fire as a rookie quarterback in this league, and be judged on just your body of work for your first 16 games or so, that's ludicrous.''

Croyle falls between Pennington and McNair.

Croyle deserves the whole year (seriously doubt he makes it though 16 games anyways)

But if this team only wins 1-3 games, how could you not want to draft a QB next year??

Bash Dilfer if you want, but he's been to the probowl, and won a SB.

I don't have a good feeling about Croyle or any of our other QB's. I do think Croyle needs more time to prove to me he that sucks though.

Even Lenny Dawson got bounced around before finally developing for us.

Depends on why we only win 1-3 games.

Are we losing games by less than 7 points every week?

Is the defense giving up 24+ PPG?

Does Croyle (and the rest of the offense) improve on a week-to-week basis?


IMO, it's not as cut and dried as saying, "well, we went 3-13, it MUST be all Croyle's fault."

This is going to be a bad TEAM.

Regardless of record, or a player's position, you should be looking for progression from week-to-week, not regression.

Those who progress, should be assured a spot in 2009. Those that don't?

Well, bye.

Payton Manning

1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 331 533 62.1 4,135 7.8 26 15 14 116 90.7 35 73 2.1 2 6 3
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 326 575 56.7 3,739 6.5 26 28 22 109 71.2 15 62 4.1 0 3 1

Brodie Croyle
2008 ???????????????????????
2007 Kansas City Chiefs 9 6 127 224 56.7 1,227 5.5 6 6 17 101 69.9 7 18 2.6 0 4 3

Is 2800 yards.......60% completions......and more TD's than Interceptions to much to ask of Croyle?

He deserves the full season for evaluation (health permitting). But I have not liked what I've seen so far this preseason. Protection issues and dropped balls aside, Brodie has twice missed wide-open receivers when he's had decent-to-good protection. With all the other problems we have, he CANNOT miss those rare opportunities to score when everything has lined up perfectly.

The numbers are a lot closer than people give credit for.

Same completion percentage.

Almost the same passer rating.

Peyton had a 1 yard advantage in yards per attempt. Based on the averages, had Croyle attempted the 575 passes that Manning did, he would have thrown for 3162.5 yards.

The big difference is in TD's. Manning threw a TD pass every 22 attempts, while Croyle threw a TD every 37 attempts. Again based on an equal amount of attempts, Croyle would project at 15TD/15INT.