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petegz28 10-05-2008 08:18 PM

This has gone beyond "rebuilding"
 
After Sunday's drubbing at the hands of the Panthers, the Chiefs are faced with some cold hard realities. They are going backwards. They have gone so far backwards that they have taken this team to the lowest in it's history.

It is more than obvious Herm has no ****ing clue of how to coach a football team and win. I seriously think that our practices are giant excuse making parties.

Not 1 part of this team has improved from the time Herm has arrived. Not 1. The defense showed promise last year only to take 3 steps back this year.

And Carl is not without blame in all of this. He knew the situation that would be created with our D line when we traded Allen. So from the draft on we didn't make any effort to sign a DE worth a shit. Instead we got suckered into another one of his bullshit schemes where we move the LE to the RE and the DT to DE and pretend it will all work. MLB was not addressed and our O line was improved by 1 player only.

Instead this team wasted time with the likes of BJ Samms ala Eddie Drummond, Devard Darling ala Gardner and still have yet to sign a kicker worth a shit since Stoyo.


It will suck when the blackouts hit. I can't remember a blackout since the Deberg days.

Deberg_1990 10-05-2008 08:21 PM

Here is an ugly thought:

Would any other NFL team retain a HC whos working on his third 4 win or less season in the past 4 seasons? (remember Herm went 4-12 with the Jets in 2005)



Only the Chiefs.......

Bob Dole 10-05-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5086425)
Here is an ugly thought:

Would any other NFL team retain a HC whos working on his third 4 win or less season in the past 4 seasons? (remember Herm went 4-12 with the Jets in 2005)



Only the Chiefs.......

Or a president and general manager that hasn't taken his team to a Super Bowl...well...ever?

MIAdragon 10-05-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5086425)
Here is an ugly thought:

Would any other NFL team retain a HC whos working on his third 4 win or less season in the past 4 seasons? (remember Herm went 4-12 with the Jets in 2005)



Only the Chiefs.......

and we TRADED a pick for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cuss:

chiefs1111 10-05-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5086425)
Here is an ugly thought:

Would any other NFL team retain a HC whos working on his third 4 win or less season in the past 4 seasons? (remember Herm went 4-12 with the Jets in 2005)



Only the Chiefs.......

Nope just us cause we are dumb...............

The Bad Guy 10-05-2008 08:32 PM

The Falcons, Dolphins and Bills are teams that could say they are rebuilding.

Rebuilding would imply they are building toward something.

The Chiefs don't have a longterm play at QB, or MLB, which are the 2 most crucial positions to have players at during a rebuild.

They don't have a DE worth shit, 2nd WR or right side of an offensive line.

What we have been sold is a bad bill of goods.

Herman Edwards has won TWO games in a years time and he still parades around like his job is locked up regardless of performance.

Seriously, **** this whole team.

Deberg_1990 10-05-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5086454)
and we TRADED a pick for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cuss:

Good Lord...i had forgotten about that.


I need a gun....

teedubya 10-05-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5086473)
Good Lord...i had forgotten about that.


I need a gun....


How could you have forgotten? The thread gets bumped after each loss.

luv 10-05-2008 08:39 PM

Up until last week, everyone was expecting 0-16. After the game last week, I actually read where people thought we could go anywhere for 5-11 to 8-8. Now, we're back to never winning again (this season anyway). I haven't been a Chiefs fan for very long, but I knew better than to expect great things from one good game. We're too inconsistent and our coaching sucks.

morphius 10-05-2008 08:39 PM

It is pretty simple, you need one of two things to win consistently, superior talent or superior coaching. With so many rookies and QB issues we obviously don't fall into the superior talent, and we don't have a coaching staff strong enough to make up for any of the deficiencies. I truly believe the coaching staff thinks that we will go into the game and run our offense, without putting any effort into seeing where the real weaknesses in their D are and how best to take advantage of them.

You never hear Herm talk about how they had saw some things earlier in the week that they thought they could take advantage of, not that it means that they are not and just not talking about it, but I don't think any of us see it.

I'll never forget that we brought in the guy that DV's guy out coached in every single phase of the game.

banyon 10-05-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28
He knew the situation that would be created with our D line when we traded Allen. So from the draft on we didn't make any effort to sign a DE worth a shit. Instead we got suckered into another one of his bullshit schemes where we move the LE to the RE and the DT to DE and pretend it will all work.

I don't usually agree with many of your takes, but this is spot on. I suspect it is also one of the reasons that Dorsey hasn't looked as effective as he might've.

luv 10-05-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5086454)
and we TRADED a pick for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cuss:

Yes, we worked so hard to get a coach with a coaching record of less than .500.

DaKCMan AP 10-05-2008 08:46 PM

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

ChiefsCountry 10-05-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5086512)
We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

QFT

OnTheWarpath15 10-05-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5086512)
We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

This.


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