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Sam Hall 11-26-2008 06:21 PM

Speculation about Zack Greinke being traded to the Braves
 
This is from another board. It sounds like Greinke isn't crazy about signing a long-term deal in KC. The four players the Royals would get seem legit. Escobar seems to be the key to the deal. He and Reyes are said to be immediate contributors. Schafer and Flowers aren't far behind.

Royals receive

OF Jordan Schafer or Gorkys Hernandez
SS Yunel Escobar
LHP Jo Jo Reyes or RHP Charlie Morton or LHP Jeff Locke
C Tyler Flowers

Braves receive: Zack Greinke

Deberg_1990 11-26-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5251374)
This is from another board. It sounds like Greinke isn't crazy about signing a long-term deal in KC.

IM shocked?? Can u blame him?

teedubya 11-26-2008 06:26 PM

This would set the Royals back... but, I can see where Greinke wants to play on NL team. He loves to bat... so, AL isn't the ideal place for him.

Id be pissed though

Sam Hall 11-26-2008 06:28 PM

When talking about resigning Greinke, Dayton Moore has said both sides have to want to get a deal done. Maybe Greinke wants to cash in on free agency.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-26-2008 06:29 PM

That is a ****ing haul. I can't imagine Greinke would fetch that much. That's more than Milwaukee gave up for Sabathia or New York for Santana.

Adept Havelock 11-26-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5251384)
That is a ****ing haul. I can't imagine Greinke would fetch that much. That's more than Milwaukee gave up for Sabathia or New York for Santana.

If it's true, I would wave goodbye to Zach in a heartbeat.

Strikes me as too good to be true, though.

DeezNutz 11-26-2008 07:12 PM

Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

EyePod 11-26-2008 07:15 PM

Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

EyePod 11-26-2008 07:18 PM

I'm a Braves fan btw. I really don't think Greinke looks good at all, and I really like Schafer and Escobar. I don't see us trading all of this for Greinke. Sorry.

Sam Hall 11-26-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5251439)
Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

Schafer, Escobar and Flowers could all be nails. Escobar seems to have all-star potential and he's the key for the Royals. I don't really know about Reyes.

DeezNutz 11-26-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5251445)
Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

Yes.

Jayson Stark said (couple of weeks ago on 810) that Greinke would bring "the mother load."

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-26-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5251439)
Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

Dude, this deal is unimaginably good for KC.

Schaefer is the best prospect in their entire system, and Hernandez is right there with him. combine that with Yunel Escobar, and that alone is worth more than Greinke.

Jo-Jo Reyes has good stuff, and he's a lefty. He was one of the Braves best prospects as well.

I just can't imagine that this trade is for real. If so, you should bronze Moore's dick.

Morton is a AAAA guy in my opinion

DeezNutz 11-26-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5251449)
Schafer, Escobar and Flowers could all be nails. Escobar seems to have all-star potential and he's the key for the Royals. I don't really know about Reyes.

Interesting. You don't trade a very high-quality pitcher for a high-quality OF. Not smart. Like giving up an All-Pro QB for an All-Pro guard. If however, we could get a very good SS and C, tough positions to fill, that would be outstanding.

Big gamble for Dayton...

DeezNutz 11-26-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5251453)
Dude, this deal is unimaginably good for KC.

Schaefer is the best prospect in their entire system, and Hernandez is right there with him. combine that with Yunel Escobar, and that alone is worth more than Greinke.

Jo-Jo Reyes has good stuff, and he's a lefty. He was one of the Braves best prospects as well.

I just can't imagine that this trade is for real. If so, you should bronze Moore's dick.

Morton is a AAAA guy in my opinion

Well, this is a great perspective, no doubt. I was asking because I honestly have zero knowledge about the proposed return. Nada. Zip.

I do know that Greinke can and should develop into a regular All-Star...

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-26-2008 07:24 PM

Jebus, I've never heard of Flowers, but he parked 17 balls in 400 ABs last year (and that's with a really low LD%). Looks like he draws a lot of walks, but Ks a fair amount too.

Did most of this as a C w/ about 1/3 as DH.


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