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Rick 01-13-2009 08:15 PM

Pioli will want to win NOW
 
He's going to have to use FA to do it. Philosophies anyone?

Mine: Bart Scott MLB free agent Ravens
Channing Crowder? Got to have a stud in the middle, our second biggest need.

Draft: move down round one, get xtra pick (only move as far as 8) and still get quality DE pass rusher.

Second round: DE or quality OL- whichever is best at his position.

We can no longer simply pick the best athlete left on the board, we must draft for need.

This obviously means I trust Thigpen vs a veteran QB competition.

DaKCMan AP 01-13-2009 08:17 PM

I'd rather get Akin Ayodele than Channing Crowder.

Bart Scott is solid, but he'll get overpaid and he's overhyped playing with Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Ed Reed, Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle, etc.

Direckshun 01-13-2009 08:17 PM

Pioli, for all his trades and FA wizardry, understands that you win through the Draft.

I expect Pioli to continue Herm's trend of stockpiling draft picks.

Basileus777 01-13-2009 08:18 PM

I honestly don't think Pioli will go out and sign free agents to win now. From what I've read, one of the issues with him in Cleveland is that Pioli wanted to blow up the team and Lerner wanted to win now.

Mecca 01-13-2009 08:19 PM

Eh I don't think you try to build a winner in the snap of a finger most teams built that way aren't built for the long haul...

We have no idea what they're going to do we may not even be running the same defensive system which completely changed this whole idea of needing a DE.

SPATCH 01-13-2009 08:20 PM

if bradford and sanchez both don't declare and stafford doesn't fall to us then, sure, trade down... but if we have a chance to draft stafford or sanchez, we better ****ing take it

beavis 01-13-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 5387862)
We can no longer simply pick the best athlete left on the board, we must draft for need.

I think that's kind of crazy. We've got too many holes to fill to be drafting for need.

Rick 01-13-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5387883)
Eh I don't think you try to build a winner in the snap of a finger most teams built that way aren't built for the long haul...

We have no idea what they're going to do we may not even be running the same defensive system which completely changed this whole idea of needing a DE.

Eh I didn't say rebuild through FA guys. There are important spots to be filled and they can't all be through the draft.

Mecca 01-13-2009 08:25 PM

Also the Chiefs are bad enough to take the best player......drafting for need is generally a pretty stupid thing to do.

Basileus777 01-13-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5387930)
Also the Chiefs are bad enough to take the best player......drafting for need is generally a pretty stupid thing to do.

Even if Andre Smith is the best player?

Need should play a certain role.

Rick 01-13-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavis (Post 5387903)
I think that's kind of crazy. We've got too many holes to fill to be drafting for need.

Spots? Specifically we need MLB, DE, OL more than a athletic TE ?
We have an offense in place and a pretty good young secondary on defense--what else to fill (kickers not included)

RB's are a dime a dozen and we now have some receivers, Thigpen is better at his position than most of the front seven on defense is. I just think we are not as far away as most people think, damn optimist me,

Ebolapox 01-13-2009 08:27 PM

I'm pretty sure he's seen how important a QB and the correct system (where a QB can flourish) really are. I hope like hell that stafford falls to us and we (wisely) take him.

Mecca 01-13-2009 08:28 PM

Oh great this morphed back into how Thigpen is good enough, kill me now.

DaKCMan AP 01-13-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 5387938)
Spots? Specifically we need MLB, DE, OL more than a athletic TE ?
We have an offense in place and a pretty good young secondary on defense--what else to fill (kickers not included)

RB's are a dime a dozen and we now have some receivers, Thigpen is better at his position than most of the front seven on defense is. I just think we are not as far away as most people think, damn optimist me,

We have the worst front 7 in football, need a new right side of the OL, a QB and an improved WR corps.

Rick 01-13-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5387937)
Even if Andre Smith is the best player?

Need should play a certain role.

This is my point.


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