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Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:21 AM
Pioli and Herms Tampa 2
 
Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...

OnTheWarpath15 01-16-2009 10:22 AM
Why would Pioli need to get players to fit Herm's system, when he's going to fire Herm in the next 5-7 days?

KCFalcon59 01-16-2009 10:23 AM
We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!

Chiefnj2 01-16-2009 10:28 AM
Why on earth would anyone want to run the cover 2 as a base defense at this point in time? Why on earth would anyone allow Herm to dictate the defensive philosophy of the team?

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59 (Post 5396200)
We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!
True, but we havent done that...

There are alot of threads about 3-4 or 4-3, but why not the cover 2?

Can Pioli get the right players that will work with Herm and Herms systems here to make the Tampa 2 successful?

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5396221)
Why on earth would anyone want to run the cover 2 as a base defense at this point in time? Why on earth would anyone allow Herm to dictate the defensive philosophy of the team?
Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...

Kylo Ren 01-16-2009 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396191)
Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification* of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...


*Coined by John_Wayne on 01/15/09.
Fixed it for you.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 5396261)
Fixed it for you.
Please forgive. I will not plagarise again....

Chief Roundup 01-16-2009 10:46 AM
I disagree about the safeties. We don't need 2 safeties. We might get one late. We do need LB's though. Need new and better coaching on the Defense.

FringeNC 01-16-2009 10:58 AM
We won't be running the cover-2 or any variant as our base defense.

chiefscafan 01-16-2009 11:08 AM
safety rashard Johnson from Alabama he is a playmaker much like ED Reed. We could get hi m between rounds 3-5.

beach tribe 01-16-2009 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5396355)
safety rashard Johnson from Alabama he is a playmaker much like ED Reed. We could get hi m between rounds 3-5.
You won't be getting a safety like Ed Reed in rnds 3-5.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2009 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396252)
Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...
But he did run a 3-4 in New York with Cottrell. Herm is not an X's and O's coach and he probably relies on his defensive coordinator to run whatever defense he wants anyway.

The Tampa 2 actually does work in the NFL, but you need a lot of creativity behind it. And I'm not convinced anyone has that creativity except Monte Kiffin. So I agree that they need to move away from the Cover 2.

I know a 3-4 will lesser utilize Dorsey's talents, but I still think that's a direction we should move toward.

BigChiefFan 01-16-2009 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5396197)
Why would Pioli need to get players to fit Herm's system, when he's going to fire Herm in the next 5-7 days?
Pioli will go into the interview process with Herm as open-minded as possible, but once he gets feedback from the coach, he will have ample evidence to show Clark that Herm isn't the right man for the job. We are paying Herm a courtesy by getting his version of the situation, which will also allow Scott a better understanding of what the players were asked to do. I expect Herm will be relieved of his duties fairly quick.

R&GHomer 01-16-2009 11:22 AM
I don't see us running any kind of a cover 2 D. Herms Defense is a complete failure. I don't see why Herm even want's to be the coach of this team. It's not going to be his any longer regardless of wether he's here or not, no cover 2, the offense is Gailey's or something completely different. just doesn't make any sense. Other than to maybe save face in the hope he can get a future HC gig.


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