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KCDC 04-25-2009 02:27 PM

Jackson?
 
Pioli could not find any one to trade down with? *sigh* A pity. We're in trouble.

htismaqe 04-25-2009 03:07 PM

Why are we in trouble?

At least we took a position of need with some value and didn't panic and take the safe LB or another LT.

Deberg_1990 04-25-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 5706407)
We're in trouble.

How could we be more in trouble than the past 2 years? 6 wins in 2 years. It cant get much worse. Relax.

kstater 04-25-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5707027)
Why are we in trouble?

At least we took a position of need with some value and didn't panic and take the safe LB or another LT.

But, but, but, IT'S THE DUMBEST PICK IN 30 YEARS, or so they say.

htismaqe 04-25-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5707056)
How could we be more in trouble than the past 2 years? 6 wins in 2 years. It cant get much worse. Relax.

Yeah, you've got a point.

eazyb81 04-25-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5707100)
But, but, but, IT'S THE DUMBEST PICK IN 30 YEARS, or so they say.

So say CP's Three Stooges.

Hoover 04-25-2009 08:48 PM

I think its a good sign that people are pissed off. That tells me things have really changed in KC

The Bad Guy 04-25-2009 10:06 PM

I swear, some of you ****ers really think that Herm left this team in perfect shape.

He didn't.

They had 6 wins in 2 years. How much more ****ing trouble could we honestly be in?

htismaqe 04-25-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5710778)
I swear, some of you ****ers really think that Herm left this team in perfect shape.

He didn't.

They had 6 wins in 2 years. How much more ****ing trouble could we honestly be in?

Exactly.

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2009 10:28 PM

I view Cassel as the first round pick and Jackson as the second round pick. Makes the draft better.
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Saccopoo 04-25-2009 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5707027)
Why are we in trouble?

At least we took a position of need with some value and didn't panic and take the safe LB or another LT.

Unless you are satisfied with the pissing away of recent early draft picks like Tank Tyler, Turk McBride, Tamba Hali, and Glenn Dorsey, I don't see much of a position of need with the pick of Tyson Jackson at #3. Especially considering that our right side of the offensive line got two of our starting quarterbacks killed last season and forced us to go with a 7th round Minnesota practice squad qb cast off to be the first full fledged spread option offense that the NFL has ever seen.

But whatever.

Position of need.

Versus linebacker.
- Oh noes! Like we didn't need a good linebacker!

Versus offensive line.
- Let's get Cassel killed early on in the season so that second round draft pick is a piss away!

Versus a vertical passing game.
- Because we can always dump it off to our Pro Bowl Tight En...I mean, Larry Johns...I mean Brad Cotto...ah, **** it.

Versus a pass rush.
- I embrace the fact that we set a new standard of low for the NFL history books.

But I guess you make a point. Pissing away the #5 last year on a defensive tackle who is going to have to convert to the RDE spot, and our #2 two years ago on Turk, who is now what? The back up to Jackson at the LDE? Maybe? And we've got all these recent high draft picks on defense who are now going to sink or swim because we draft Jackson because it's a position of need?

Pardon me, but...meh.

bdeg 04-26-2009 12:11 AM

New system, new scheme

The guys we'd been drafting were penetrators, at their best shooting gaps. Jackson fills a different role, he's got the size and strength to tie up blockers, defend the run, and just plain be stout.

Completely different abilities, and it's not about biggest need. It's mostly about BPA(pos value taken into account) at any area of need.

KCrockaholic 04-26-2009 12:19 AM

After reading Jackson's interview, I like the guy a lot more now. Im beginning to like the thought of Jackson as our pick.

Saccopoo 04-26-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5711210)
New system, new scheme

The guys we'd been drafting were penetrators, at their best shooting gaps. Jackson fills a different role, he's got the size and strength to tie up blockers, defend the run, and just plain be stout.

Completely different abilities, and it's not about biggest need. It's mostly about BPA(pos value taken into account) at any area of need.

Super.

So let's under utilize these guys next season and lose any potential trade value that they might have had.

I hope all you "Jesus" Curry people are happy now.

Third defensive end in three years in the top two rounds. Plus a DT in the top five last year who is going to have to be converted to a DE.

Just ****ing super.

Saccopoo 04-26-2009 12:34 AM

And Baltimore gets Oher and Kruger with their first two picks...

**** me.

And we pick a 3-4 DE with the third pick?

And Green Bay pisses away a second and two thirds to move up to get a special teams standout?

And we pick a 3-4 DE, a guy that is meant to be a speed bump, a pile of flotsam, at the #3 spot?

**** me running.


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