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Jenson71 06-04-2009 10:15 AM

Something amazing to tell you concerning physics and motion
 
This blows my mind.

Okay, say you have two ball bearings. You hold one in your hand and drop it. The other you put in a gun, point it straight forward, as level as the one in your hand, and pull the trigger, sending it hundreds of yards.

Which one lands first?

The one dropped in your hand right? RIGHT!?!?

No, actually they both hit the ground at the same time.

This is because the vertical component of motion is the same for both objects. They both fall vertically the same distance at about 10 meters per second squared (gravity, actually more like 9.8).

But Jenson, Jenson! What about the horizontal component of the gun-fired ball bearing? Actually, when air resistance is small enough to ignore as it is in this case (being that the bearings are exactly alike), the horizontal and vertical components of a projectile's velocity are completely independent of one another.

And, in this experiment, the gun-fired bearing is constantly falling from the moment it is fired. Yes, it looks like it is holding up in a straight line, but, it's actually falling and it's just hard to see with our eyes. And again, it is falling at exactly the same speed as the ball bearing you released in your hand -- the speed of gravity.

Post more cool science things in this thread.

I think I will later post Aristotle vs. Galileo and gravity, for a little history spin on science.

Mr. Plow 06-04-2009 10:17 AM

Don't spit into the wind.

Chiefs=Champions 06-04-2009 10:20 AM

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!!!


:)





Thats pretty interesting though...

Buehler445 06-04-2009 10:21 AM

You didn't know that? I learned that shit in my HS physics class. -9.8 m/s2 is stuck in my head for eternity.

WTF are they teaching you?
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damaticous 06-04-2009 10:22 AM

Actually, from what I remember, the ball bearing in your hand would hit the ground first.

when you fire a bullet from a gun the bullet tends to arch upward a bit, so it is actually falling at a different height from the one that is dropped.

I could be wrong, but I remember reading that or seeing it on TV or something.

Otherwise, yes, they'd hit the ground at the same time.

Jenson71 06-04-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5816295)
You didn't know that? I learned that shit in my HS physics class. -9.8 m/s2 is stuck in my head for eternity.

WTF are they teaching you?

Everything I was taught in high school physics I also forgot the very same day. I was a horrible, horrible high school student and I feel bad about it these days.

Jenson71 06-04-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damaticous (Post 5816298)
Actually, from what I remember, the ball bearing in your hand would hit the ground first.

when you fire a bullet from a gun the bullet tends to arch upward a bit, so it is actually falling at a different height from the one that is dropped.

I could be wrong, but I remember reading that or seeing it on TV or something.

Otherwise, yes, they'd hit the ground at the same time.

Oh, ah... we're discussing a perfect gun that does not send a bullet upward at all.

But yeah, that would screw it up.

Buck 06-04-2009 10:24 AM

3 friends go out to eat.

They get the bill and it is $25, but they don't really look at it too close.

They each give the waiter a $10 bill.

The Waiter decides since he cannot split $5 evenly among 3 people he decides to pocket $2, meaning the group paid a total of $27.

So the group paid $27 ($9 each), and he has $2 in his pocket, equaling $29.

What happened to the other dollar?

damaticous 06-04-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 5816308)
Oh, ah... we're discussing a perfect gun that does not send a bullet upward at all.

But yeah, that would screw it up.

O I C;)

T-post Tom 06-04-2009 10:25 AM

So if you're travelling at the speed of light in a spacecraft... and turn the headlights on...what happens? Answer me that Mr. Wisenheimer. :)

damaticous 06-04-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaCenterJunkie (Post 5816309)
3 friends go out to eat.

They get the bill and it is $25, but they don't really look at it too close.

They each give the waiter a $10 bill.

The Waiter decides since he cannot split $5 evenly among 3 people he decides to pocket $2, meaning the group paid a total of $27.

So the group paid $27 ($9 each), and he has $2 in his pocket, equaling $29.

What happened to the other dollar?

Taxes or tip.

Jenson71 06-04-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 5816312)
So if you're travelling at the speed of light in a spacecraft... and turn the headlights on...what happens? Answer me that Mr. Wisenheimer. :)

We haven't gotten that far yet.

blaise 06-04-2009 10:27 AM

Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

notorious 06-04-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 5816308)
Oh, ah... we're discussing a perfect gun that does not send a bullet upward at all.

But yeah, that would screw it up.

I thought this at first, but as the bullet spins, it will create pressure differences (high or Low which creates lift) equal to all sides, which will cancel out any lift/gravity change. Only outside forces, such as updrafts and downdrafts will effect it's decent rate.

notorious 06-04-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5816325)
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

Nice Fletch quote.


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